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Is the SHTF about to happen soon? I feel like I have just given up on life

I just feel I have no future. Nothing to look forward to. Stressed out to the max. I'm only 27 and feel like I am going to have a stroke before I hit 30 with my service job that only pays minimum wage. (even though I have a college degree). I still live at home with my parents because I can't afford a place of my own. I am able to save as little that I do make on food and gold/silver for the collapse. I am I doing the right thing? I feel that this is all I can do. I don't come from a well of family so I can't go back to school or anything. I do live within my means and have a few student loans and my car(which I need for work). Am I doin the right thing? I am a single guy, so no spouse or kids or anything.




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Read the Uncle Eric Series

Richard Maybury wrote 11 books on how to take advantage of any economy. They are the Uncle Eric series. They are written so that a 12-14 year-old could grasp the concepts. If you read them and understand them you will see how you can prosper and never be poor. With a few questions you'll be able to predict someones economic future. Maybury is an Austrian. And it's awesome....

find something that interests you, and be the best at it.

I started years ago designing websites and setting up a webserver 1997ish, and in my career I've now been a ISP owner, inventor, Systems administrator, network engineer, RF engineer, linux kernel engineer, etc. There isn't much in the area of computing, networking and radios that I haven't been exposed to in the 15-16 years I've been working, and I actually make a pretty damned good living too where my wife stayed home w/ the kids for 10 years. I'd say I enjoy about 50% of my job =) and don't hate going to work. I'm doing star trek stuff these days and I love it.

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Peace, Freedom and Prosperity. Not War, Welfare and Bankruptcy.

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..I enjoy about 50% of my job =)

I'm betting its the 50% that doesn't invlove training some H1B how to do their job!

Live frugal as part of the new American culture.

Dont live frugal because you expect the end of the world. Live frugal because you want to grow capital and protect the wealth of your family-- your parents will need your help in a few years. Save your money. Saving capital now will allow you to take risks in the future or shield your parents from a lost job. Learn a technical trade that pays more-- one that only requires 1 year of training for a certification, especially in healthcare, repair, or law (just an example: http://www.innerbody.com/careers-in-health/how-to-become-a-m...). It is a regular way of life in Asia and in many poor countries to live at home until 30-35 (with limited dating). If you have a family member who remembers the old country (Europe) or if you have cousins, they will tell you the same story-- in the old days and in new wealth countries like in Asia, young people live at home until they have saved enough money to marry and buy property. We are a poorer country now and we must return to the culture of a poorer country. Shift your values: your savings is your hope. Your family is your foundation. Your skills give you security. If you have time enjoy your politics by disciplining yourself and participating in civil defense and political discourse. When enough Americans reach for these goals there can be a living, breathing America.

Have you considered working construction?

A lot of contractors are paying pretty decent money to reliable individuals. One bricklayer I worked with was paying $26 an hour for laborers, because he was having such a hard time finding people who would reliably show up every day. If you are willing to hustle, I bet you could walk in just about any contracting or landscaping company and double your current wages. Work your ass off and save money while you still have time as don't have other obligations. Also I agree with some of the other posters, gardening is a great way to help yourself, help your family, gain a valuable skill, and have fun at the same time. If you have any construction related questions, let me know.

Tu ne cede malis sed contra audentior ito

Construction is a great training ground

I second your recomendation. Its one of the few places left that is still mostly a meritocracy. And most of the skills you pick are transportable into any field. Budget, time, people, design specs, etc. Learn how to succeed at contsruction and pretty much everything else seems easy by comparison.

The cool thing is in construction you can still have an after work parking lot fist fight and not get fired. A few punches, parental lineage defamed, then everyone makes up and goes for a brew. Unless its with the boss of course. If thats the case you likely have another job lined up anyway.

My dream is to introduce parking lot fist fights to Fortune 500 management style. Witnessed two so far but for some reason its not catching on like I hoped.

geminitwin73's picture

Never Give Up!

My 20s were spent living paycheck to paycheck. I'd literally have $1.29 left in the ledger after the bills were taken care of. I married at 26 and he was pretty broke too. For fun, we'd rent a video...watch it in our apartment that looked like someone did an oil change on the living room carpet and the pipes were cracking through the shower BUT we were happy. We knew only we could make us happy so if Subway once a month was a 'date' then so be it. 15 years of marriage and 2 kids later, we're still happy and making a great living. Find what gives you happiness. Don't worry about things or people you can't control. Look outside your town or even state for work commensurate with your degree. Step outside that comfort zone if that's what it takes. We've travelled or moved often for work (even overseas!) and it's always been an adventure we didn't regret. Just my 2 cents. The best of luck to you!

Please

I highly suggest you stay off websites like this, if that's how you're feeling. There is far too much unwarranted pessimism and negativity. It's enough to depress anyone. Sure there is some truth behind much of it, and I agree with a lot of the fundamental principles, but you'd be better off avoiding news all together.

you are young and have a lot to look forward to. You are far better off than most people on this planet, and it sounds like you're intelligent, and responsible.

Despite what some people say, no one knows how things will pan out. There are far too many variables. There is no sense in worrying about it. It's good to be prepared for hard economic times, and it would be in your best interest to educate yourself in a variety of ways that interest you. learn practical things that you enjoy such as programming, web design, auto repair, construction. Learn skills online for free. Save some money when you can. But also enjoy life. you don't want to look back when you are older with regret that you didn't do more when you were younger. You don't need a lot of money. Build strong friendships. Spend time with family. Help others. Find out what makes you happy and healthy.

just don't let the unknown get you down. Live in the moment, while being aware and prepared for the possibility that the economy could become worse. Worrying won't help you.

I highly recommend adding exercise into your routine. And I have also found mindfulness meditation to be very beneficial for someone like you. If you want some resources for that, I can try to find some for you.

Anyhow, I wish you the best.

Try Reason.com/Reason.tv

If you want a good combo of libertarianism and optimism, try reading articles from reason.com. They are funny, entertaining, and intellegent. They're my favorite source for news with a liberty twist.

Unwarranted pessism and

Unwarranted pessism and negativity?

Apparently you understand nothing about anthropology if your best advice is to 'live in the moment'. Animals do that. Primates plan.

I think

i think you misunderstand me. I don't mean we should not think about the future at all, or fail to plan our lives at all. The problem is that people today spend the majority of the time outside their own body planning and worrying about the future. There has been a great deal of research about this recently shedding light on the negative health repercussions. It's important to take time to experience what is real rather than purely projections. I recommend looking into mindfulness meditation and similar therapies. And I don't mean this in any sort of eastern religion sort of way, although there is plenty of it in that. This is a scientifically established approach to living a more fulfilling, peaceful, happy, and healthy life.

Really good advice.

Think I will take you up on some of those ideas.

Lord Acton, Lord Chief Justice of England, 1875 - "The issue which has swept down the centuries and which will have to be fought sooner or later is the People v. The Banks."

You can't wait for a job to

You can't wait for a job to pop into your lap. You have to go out there and apply apply apply. Knock on doors of places you'd like to work. There is no excuse to work for minimum wage unless you haven't graduated from high school yet. Your future is what you make of it. Quit hanging around on the DP and listening to the apocalyptic SHTFanners. S is NOT going to HTF anytime soon. Quit wasting money that you barely have on the collapse.
Living within your means is great though! And, living at home is not that big of a deal. I saved up 100k while living with my parents and am about to move out. I'm 31. I think you are doing the right thing here - UNLESS there are no job opportunities in your area.
If you want to make money, move to an oilfield area and get any job you can land. You've got to go after it though.
Quit stressing out. Life is good. Some people prosper no matter what the political and economic climate. Be one of them.

“If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.”

I have, but you get to a

I have, but you get to a point where you can't go on forever with same outcome. There is simply nothing available in this crap state of Florida that only provides hospitality jobs that only pay minimum wage.

Get out of Florida. Florida

Get out of Florida. Florida sucks anyway. What job do you want that you are qualified for?

“If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.”

Teaching, but teachers don't

Teaching, but teachers don't get paid shit. I agree with you on Florida. I hate this place. If I had the means and connections, I would leave as soon as possible.

Teachers don't get paid

Teachers don't get paid shit?
Your minimum wage job pays what? 14k - 15k per year?
Average teacher wages are around 50k.
Just starting out, you can accept 40k or so. You nearly JUST TRIPLED your income! Even 30k would be acceptable for a couple years until you have some experience and can find a job for 50k. Plus, you work 8am - 4pm every day and get the equivalent of like 4 months per year off. I would kill for 4 months off per year! If you translate 40k over 8 months to wages for a full year, you would be making 60k to start! That is GOOD money to start.

You don't need means or connections. Just apply everywhere you'd like to live. Take any teaching job you can get. Even teaching English in foreign countries like the other guy suggested would be awesome! You have an awesome experience, gain experience, earn some money, and be able to sag a job much easier when you return...

“If ever a time should come, when vain and aspiring men shall possess the highest seats in Government, our country will stand in need of its experienced patriots to prevent its ruin.”

i feel bad that i even

i feel bad that i even commented now. florida, typical. he equates a minimum wage job with a non minimum wage job. bloody hell. or maybe i missed something. did i miss something? if i didn't, then geez, Flordia, just typical. you can't beat florida.

lawrence

Yeah all the jobs here suck

Yeah all the jobs here suck and pay crap.

Nathan Explosion for

Nathan Explosion for Governor.

lawrence

jrd3820's picture

You do understand ....

That starting out at a young age with no experience you are not going to be rich right away, right? Teach for a while, get some seniority... maybe become a principle someday. Or teach for a while go back to school and get a masters or phd and teach at a university level.

Your 27. I'm 27. Neither of us will be rich for the time being.

Also, consider teaching English abroad. I am leaving for China in a few months to teach English. They are paying for my roundtrip flight, my apartment and bills that go along with the apartment, 2 meals a day m-f at the school. Beyond that I'll get an actual paycheck and a sign off bonus for finishing one school year. Basically if I live frugally (I'll probably travel a bit while I'm over there though) I am going to come home with $20,000 cash in my pocket. Think outside the box.

If you are a teacher

If you are a teacher, teach, especially if you are in an area where it is hostile to Liberty. You can subtly plant the seeds of Liberty in all of your students, no matter their age. It takes an entire generation. You can help make that difference.

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Have you seen this post? ->

Have you seen this post? -> "Another Family Business Destroyed: Morningland Dairy Raw Milk Cheese Raided 1/25/13"

The thing to take from it is this farmer may have lost his business but, he has something worth far more than stacks of silver and gold. Do you see how the friends, family, and community supported him? This man has what it takes to survive anything.

I would say he earned that from his good nature... Not many would give product away to those who couldn't pay. Not many could be so kind to those destroying their business.

Trust me in the end it isn't about how tall the silver round stack is or how much wheat you have in 5 gallon buckets. That is all stuff that can be taken from you. No one can take away what that business owners has.

well put.

I'm Right There

I'm 26 (27 in a week) recently laid off due to cutbacks for the 3rd time in 4 years, practically nothing in savings except enough to survive until I find work again, I have what seems now to be a worthless Bachelor of Arts degree, and yes I'm single.

Everybody I knows tells me I'm a wonderful charismatic guy that truly loves everybody, the ladies seem confused at my bachelorhood, and my parents pray everyday that I find permanent employment somewhere.

Sometimes life just doesn't make sense does it?

I'm sure like me you were promised a good paying job, a smoking hot wife/girlfriend, and a future wherein the sky was the limit if you only graduated from college. Well they bull$h1ted us good my friend.

But that's alright, because if being "poor" (or the American equivalent) has taught me anything, it has made me truly enjoy the things I do have: My health, the gorgeous land we live in, family and friends that love me deeply, and in a strange twist quite a good deal of freedom since I never know what new adventure tomorrow holds.

All I mean to say is hang in there bro, you are not alone and someday things are gonna work out for us. When it does, I'll buy ya a beer and we'll laugh at those silly things that used to cloud our minds.

"Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books...Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: 'I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't. I can. And my children will."

-Jimmy Stewart

I see that you understand

I see that you understand where I am coming from. You nailed it exactly.

lets plants some seeds outside for a little while, food forest?

maybe a pond and garden... help the parents with food and let them know you love them by turning their property into a permaculture.

or you can go down to a lax lien auction and buy up a parcel for like 500 dollars and plant your own trees and seeds out, learn permaculture and mycological teks and work the farmers markets... we all need to start spinning wheels where we can take action so we rise to the top when the water starts to boil.

Whether you think you can or you can't, you're right. -Henry Ford

What should I plant this season?

I have some experience with the basics (beans, tomatoes, peppers, etc), but is there anything else you recommend I add to my little plot?

Tu ne cede malis sed contra audentior ito

yes pending on where you are?

but I live in fla. and plant in a subtropical climate.

Trees and climbers: Maringa trees, mullberry, dragon fruit is a fruit bearing cactus that is also a climber, Chia tree, wax myrtle (nitrogen fixer)

Vine: cheyote

Supporter Plants: sunn hemp as green manure

Whether you think you can or you can't, you're right. -Henry Ford

THEY DONT CALL IT A STRUGGLE FOR NOTHING!!!

Are you doing the right thing? only you can answer that. All i can tell you is this struggle will continue to get much more serious in the years ahead. Things will get much worse than they are now so prep, and enjoy the brighter side of the present. shoot, go out an meet some girls because honestly when your socially relating to a women as a man and she is showing affection toward you...life doesn't really get any better than that.

Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength, while loving someone deeply gives you courage.

His name is Edward Snowden

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