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Is the SHTF about to happen soon? I feel like I have just given up on life

I just feel I have no future. Nothing to look forward to. Stressed out to the max. I'm only 27 and feel like I am going to have a stroke before I hit 30 with my service job that only pays minimum wage. (even though I have a college degree). I still live at home with my parents because I can't afford a place of my own. I am able to save as little that I do make on food and gold/silver for the collapse. I am I doing the right thing? I feel that this is all I can do. I don't come from a well of family so I can't go back to school or anything. I do live within my means and have a few student loans and my car(which I need for work). Am I doin the right thing? I am a single guy, so no spouse or kids or anything.




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Imagine yourself in other periods of history of this country.

The Revolutionary War and recovery (financial collapse)
The War of 1812 and recovery (destruction of Washington, D.C.)
The War Against Northern Aggression (War Between the States) and Reconstruction
The Plains Indian Wars
The Gilded Age and the "Robber Barons," also famous outlaws
"Manifest Destiny" and American Imperialism - Creation of the Federal Reserve
World War I and the Depression of 1920
Prohibition, etc.

Life has always either sucked or soared, depending on your point of view (attitude).

You decide how to view life and deal with it.

The economy is going to

The economy is going to collapse,it's inevitable.We know this as fact because it's simple math.But don't let this bring you down.It's actually going to be a good thing for many people.The
greatest transfer of wealth in the history of the world is only going to hurt people who rely on the current system of fiat money.Those with tangible assets are going to be the well off ones.So keep your head up and keep stacking my friend.

Why would the US be any different to

Greece and Spain where people now are trying to get by with barter trade?

Why this belief in metals. What good are they if you don't have any food left. Why would someone else hand over their food to you in return for metal which they cannot eat?

It makes no sense to me whatsoever. In Greece and Spain people don't care about gold and silver. They care about food and water now. Metals are only of interest to a people if everyone has it or enough of it to use in exchange for goods and services. That is not the case with ordinary people in either Europe or the US.

Wouldn't that - Greece & Spain - be a place to look at and learn what actually happens when a country's monetary system reaches terminal failure due the obfuscation of our promissory obligations to each other which we have learned is 'money'. I find it strange that the people of the United States have forgotten what Jefferson said, that the issuing power of 'money' should be handed BACK to the people.

When the principal we create through an alleged bank loan must be paid back to the bank + interest that is never loaned or borrowed into circulation - ONLY principal is - then how in the world can a monetary system then NOT collapse at some* stage ? (*which is now) - Can anyone explain this?

Every $, €, Yen in circulation banks claim they lend to us must be paid back + interest. Yet, if we are to fulfill such a contract agreement with a bank then someone else will default and eventually go bankrupt and place that burden on the rest of the people. Who else to pay for it because of a stupid monetary system? Banks?

In order to pay back the alleged loan to a bank we would always have to re-borrow principal back into circulation because of a money shortage due to the interest we must ALSO pay out of circulation, right?. But that money is also interest bearing debt. This is what Jefferson meant. If you let banks issue the principal/money instead of doing it yourself you end up as bankers slaves. You will never get out of debt as a society or as an individual as a ever more decreasing sum of money in circulation to maintain the vital commerce and industry in society will force everyone out of business in the end because of the multiplication of interest bearing debt in circulation. This is how they/banks rob the people blind on a daily basis.

I cannot understand why these simple facts are never addressed by Ron Paul.

Gold and silver are for

Gold and silver are for preservation of wealth.Yes there could be a period where food and water is more important and no one wants money / gold and silver for it.But eventually the system will reset and gold and silver will return to it's true value.The experts who understand real economics know gold and silver is way undervalued by the people trying to keep the fiat monopoly game alive.To understand why the founders said only gold and silver shall be legal tender,you have to learn what money is.I suggest you do some research on the topic: What is Money?

Besides

to put all your eggs in one basket (the experts) without even explaining/defining yourself what money is and what purpose it serves sums it up pretty well I'd say.

You can't - so you refer to others. You are your own worst enemy.

You're not getting it right

Gold and silver are metals. They cannot be preservation for wealth as history so clearly has proven over and over again.

In order to expand the economy you'd have to generate enormous sums of gold and silver which history teaches us always fails. Especially when the money is a metal backed currency. This is where the term 'fractional reserve' comes from.

You didn't answer any of my questions. So obviously you haven't got a clue about the subject. I studied it for years and never met the 'experts' you refer to. They always evade these questions - like you did. You live in an economic lie and Jefferson knew it. Not all the founders said gold and silver should be legal tender. Yes, it's stated in the constitution. But Jefferson said the issuing power should be given BACK to the people. Now was this BEFORE or AFTER the constitution was written when using the word 'BACK' in his sentence??????? Hellooo??

You will lose it all - the experts wont come and help you out. The system will not be reset. The bankers will take all your belongings/assets before they implement fascism.

I suggest you study mathematically perfected economy before its to late. I will laugh at you americans when you go down. You can only blame yourself and your tremendous ignorance when it comes to history and money.

I suggest you get hold of some of your 'experts' right away and ask them these question. A system does not 'reset itself' without human intervention. What will that intervention be? Oh sorry for asking. You haven't got a clue. You refer to 'experts' who evade the questions lol
CLUELESS U ARE (Yoda)

Yes been trying the best I

Yes been trying the best I can. I think I should now start buying food for a food storage.

Yes.Food,water and medicine

Yes.Food,water and medicine should be the first priority.Second guns and ammo to defend your assets and then third money.(silver and gold)

Cheer up man!

“The world is a wonderfully weird place, consensual reality is significantly flawed, no institution can be trusted, certainty is a mirage, security a delusion, and the tyranny of the dull mind forever threatens -- but our lives are not as limited as we think they are, all things are possible, laughter is holier than piety, freedom is sweeter than fame, and in the end it's love and love alone that really matters.”
― Tom Robbins

“Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What a Ride!”
― Hunter S. Thompson

What is freedom? Freedom is the right to choose; the right to create for
yourself the alternative of choice. Without the responsibility and exercise
of choice a man is not a man but a member, an instrument, a thing.
-- Archibald Macleish

Consider a new country.

I moved to south america at the age of 27 (2009) after completing college and can tell you that the economic situation here is excellent. We can't find people to work. Granted you would need to learn Spanish, but you can manage that in about six months to one year. It would be an awesome experience. I was born in brazil but my friend from tHe USA came down in 2005 and never left. I live in Paraguay, highly unknown but very libertarian. Consider it. If you would like to learn more I can give you a few tips. Added bonus are the sexy women which are always interested in meeting some Americans.

I've been considering the

I've been considering the move. May I ask what you do for money down there?

You are a Pu55y !

Get off your ass and do something. I`m over 70 and just now starting a new business. You must have gone to government indoctronation schools. You are only limited by what you think of yourself and evidently you don`t score many point there.
Move out of Ma & Pa place and put you big boy panties on.

"Since 1789 the only government on Earth that has the power to crush the American people`s liberties across the board is the government of the United States"
Robert Higgs

WWRPD

WWRPD

I take it you were a drill

I take it you were a drill Instructor in your youth?

Fuck you I don't care how old

Fuck you I don't care how old you are you have no idea what I am expierencing, so don't call me a fucking pussy, bitch.

Don't pay him any mind...

He thinks he's a "hydroman" but he's really just the waterboy. :p

Real men don't talk like him...

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~wobbles but doesn't fall down~

Don't let it consume you.

Don't let it consume you. People have been calling for one form or another of doom's day since Jesus was a bus boy. In life the feeling of security, money and just about everything else will come and go just don't forget to enjoy the ride. People who don't have money worry about getting money, people who have money worry about losing it.

Don't be worried because you don't have enough silver or food stock. No one can ever be fully prepped for every curve. Life has a funny way of showing a person they are not in control. In other words try to live more for the day and enjoy what you have.

You may be one hand shake away from meeting someone who or something that will guide you around that next curve. Mahatma Gandhi could have never imagined what his trip to Africa was going to start.

Life is full of Opportunity you just need to have open eyes and ears to find them. Enjoy the journey. Think about poking into a Church if it interest you.

Just do what you can each day...

and when the afternoon/nighttime comes just let it all go. :)

You're doing the right thing. You just need to learn to shut your worrying down (it's a skill that takes practice). Chill out and relax. Don't let your thoughts race. Learn a musical instrument. When you go to lay down to sleep just empty your mind of anything stressful and don't think or plan about tomorrow. Everything will be ok...

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~wobbles but doesn't fall down~

This May help...

This May help... Don't let the titles fool you, there are very good links here.
Find something interesting to get into that that you have never got into and explore the possibilities and plan.

Use this for yourself. Learn the skill and help someone. We need it including you. Best b4 Bed- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhTSaNwnip8 use headphones

3d AFFORDABLE Printer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q10Jz2qIog=8

Turn down your headphones...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwkX8sWSxNQ

People doing amazing things with food.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCmTJkZy0rM&feature=related

Entertaining Inspiring and Educational, Grab some popcorn

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oC9J6O6soHA

http://backtoedenfilm.com/#movie

Old Fashioned Vintage Sketch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYlsIZXCQa4&feature=related

Is this real?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7DNRjGIETs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUW7ttBt6s8

Printed Home
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R1CBFBxuew

Printed Car
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOh_m9pPvDo

Psalms Chapter 23

1 (A Psalm of David.) The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want.

2 He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.

3 He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.

4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.

5 Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.

6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever.

http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/book.php?book=Psalms&cha...

If you're single with no kids

then you have no reason to be depressed. ;)

Seriously though, the fact that you're single makes it a lot easier to travel, should you ever feel so inclined.

Mind you when I say "travel", I mean with *or* without money (doing it without money is far more interesting...and difficult, naturally).

Back about a decade ago, I felt like it was pretty hopeless too, so I hit the road (wasn't out of choice at first...made the best of a bad situation). Spent several years roaming the streets, mountains, and deserts. Met all sorts of people from all walks of life. Mentally unstable truckers, surprisingly charitable bikers, former millionaires turned mountain men, pot farmers, escaped cons, idiot savants, you name it. Gained many new perspectives, skills, memories, and a few scars too.

People tend to get boring, especially when you're around the same "type" of people constantly. Waking up in one state...falling asleep in another. Best feeling there is, true freedom. If you've got a silver tongue then you'll almost never go to sleep alone, either. ;)

Some people aren't built for that sort of life. Understandable; It's hard physically and mentally if you're not prepared. Lots of people end up getting addicted to something (drugs, work, praise, etc) and become comfortable in the little rut (grave?) they've dug for themselves.

Yeah...just sort of rambled on, there.

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Hey Friend...

sounds like a problem with your thinking. I can help...here it is. GOD is the source of your supply. Once you recognize this you will have peace of mind....prosperity will follow. You will become what you believe you will become. Change your belief because that is what is holding you back. No church or religion is required. Good luck.

No offense dude, but you have

No offense dude, but you have no clue, or even know what kind of work I do.

no offense taken dude..

but it does not matter what you do. good luck

Random Idea

Learn a trade. I know a welder who makes $70/hr. He went to a community college and became an apprentice. I'm sure there are other jobs like this out there.

The thing is, you want to learn a true skill where you can actually produce something. Not only will you earn more money because of this, but you will be able to sleep at night knowing that you have a valuable skill that people will always demand, regardless of the monetary system, shtf, etc.

Agreed

Welding is a skill that is supposedly in short supply and thus it pays well. Take a look at that. For what it's worth Ryno, I think you're doing the right thing. Though I think it's somewhat of the blind leading the blind right now considering I think we have no idea what craziness lies ahead.

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Whereever you go, there you are

LIVE LIFE TO THE FULLEST as if each day was your last.. LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE.. passionate.. STRIVE TO BE HAPPY.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHPOzQzk9Qo

STAND WITH RAND 2016

SHTF is a Hollywood lie, it

SHTF is a Hollywood lie, it will never happen. The day after tomorrow never comes.

The greatest chapter of prosperity is yet ahead of us. We just need to finish out this crappy decade. The debt will be cleared from the books soon enough. Stock up on assets and be ready to strike when the opportunity comes. There are going to be some huge ground floors to get in on. YOU MUST BE IN A POSITION TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE COMING BOOM. This will be a once in a century event. In the short term here's how to position yourself.

1) Find a job listing that you'd like and apply, minimum wage is unacceptable. You must look for something better.

2)Apply to jobs that pay more even if your chance of getting them is slim at least you'll start getting interview experience. You must be applying to one or two jobs per week minimum.

3) MAKE A RESUME!!! and a cover letter that you can update to a specific job

4)Find a hobby that you can make an extra hundred or so a month on (Gardening, coin collecting, dumpster diving, tool repair, car wash/detailing etc etc).

5)Volunteer! Help others whenever you can. In fact beg to help people. This will expand your network beyond your wildest dreams.

6)When you're at the bottom as you are, take risks! You have nothing to lose, get out of your comfort zone. Ask for more responsibility, ask for a raise, ask for a promotion. Ask and ye shall receive.