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I wasn't born until 26 years later...

But had I been around in '42, I - a citizen of the United States of America - would have been the victim of indefinite detention on American soil simply because of my Japanese ancestry.

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Time is a spiral, and those times of fear and loathing are coming around again.

All we have, friends, is now. This is our time. This is our watch.

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I think we should just round up authoritarian police...

...officers and send them all away with their families to a nice camp like this.

Then we can be at peace with the gangbanging cops put away from us.


Cyril's picture

Memory is good. Memory is mandatory.

Yes, Michael, thank you for this opportunity I'm jumping on:

Memory is good. Memory is mandatory. If we understand the importance of individuals, we also understand:

It's not about our races and past resentment between those. It's not about who was martyr last. Or who will be abuser next. It's not about the originating countries we're from. (Duh. America IS a very young country - what is 230+ years? - AND THUS, a country BUILT by her caring immigrants).

It's not about our religions (or absence thereof) either. Duh. Everybody presumably comes here, in this country, first generation, ALSO for the 1st Amendment, and the 9 other of the Bill of Rights.

So, what it is about that we need to remember be wary of on this picture?

It's about the ARBITRARY:

that one originating from WAR AND FORCE ONLY BECAUSE OF abusive government.

And how it always end up denying...

... the individual.

No matter which boogeyman race will be most convenient. Or boogeyman religion. Or boogeyman whatever. Moral Hazard through GROUP THINK abstraction. JARS and LABELS for human beings - for the "greater good of the majority".

Divide and Conquer : the evergreen strategy of abusive government, TO JUSTIFY ITSELF "to maintain order" and "protect groups" (ONLY those groups deemed "lawful" and "moral" - by them ... of course!)


THAT is what I'd like us all to remember. America was meant to be the country of the individual - FIRST. Rights for PERSONS. Not castes. Not classes. Not [whatever classifier].

On Collectivism vs. Individualism, a recent, OUTSTANDING listen, btw (to protect us from such ANTI-American Spirit infamies as recalled in Michael's post):



"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.


"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

I'm bumping--


it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

a moment of silence--

I know this has happened everywhere to everyone, but it is especially horrific that it happened here in America, since Americans like to think of themselves as 'just'. It is the hypocrisy that is hard to process.

I had a very dear friend (Japanese) who spent the years of WWII in a prison camp in Mongolia. I am not sure whether it was run by the Chinese or the Russians or even the Japanese, but it was horrific, and there wasn't much left of him when he made it back to Japan. I am not even sure he had a home to return to, come to think of it; I've forgotten, or maybe he didn't tell me that part. When he returned to Japan his wife had died of deprivation, and his daughter had ended her own life. I think his son was in the Japanese army, and I don't remember now what happened to him.

I just know that my friend had a very gentle, forgiving spirit.

But my friend was all alone. His crime? He was Christian, a minister actually. I don't know who imprisoned him; I am not sure whether it was the imperialist Japanese or the Chinese or the Russians, but the result was the same.

He was one of the finest people I ever knew; he was a like a family member to me, and I've been thinking of him a lot lately, and I hadn't even connected the American treatment of Japanese Americans, because my friend never was in America.

There are so many untold stories. I just felt like telling his story.

Nishibu-san, I honor your memory.

On another note, I just recently watched this; I recommend it:


This all happened while I thought I was 'awake', but I was unaware of it, and that is disturbing to me--

Here is an author I highly recommend to help children understand what happened on the West Coast to the Japanese Americans:


She has written for both children and adults, but her children's books tell the stories of the internment camps poignantly.

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--


....truly sounds like a man that experientially shared and FELLOWSHIPPED in the sufferings of Christ.Thank you for honoring his memory...I have been made richer by your sharing.
The promise of scripture is that all that share in Christ's sufferings will also SHARE in His GLORY! (1Pet.4:13).

My 12 yr. old son has chosen to do a book report on the Japenese internment camps, I will have him check out the link you provided for children (he has enjoyed reading all the comments from everyone).

Thank you 1988vote...

The blessings of Christ to you!

Jesus is the saviour of the WHOLE WORLD, "As in Adam all die, so too in Christ ALL shall be made alive." (ICor.15:22) All means all. The pagan 'hell' of literal fire & eternal torment is a lie and is SPIRITUAL TERRORISM. http://www.hopebeyondhell.net

you are welcome--

These books would be perfect for a 12 year old. The protagonist is a girl, but there are many important male characters in her books; in one of the series, at least, there is a beloved brother who ends up serving in the army--

I shared these books with my own children.

God bless you, too!!! :)

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

you are welcome--

These books would be perfect for a 12 year old. The protagonist is a girl, but there are many important male characters in her books; in one of the series, at least, there is a beloved brother who ends up serving in the army--

I shared these books with my own children.

God bless you, too!!! :)

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

I always wondered if you have

I always wondered if you have som norske roots, your last name looks like an immigrated version of Nystrøm. :-) (btw, means new current or electricity)

Michael Nystrom

Stop acting like you are special.

I came from freedom fighters in Poland and I never pushed my being Polish.


The place we are born here has NOTHING to do with who we really are.(our eternal souls)
You should know better.

LL on Twitter: http://twitter.com/LibertyPoet
sometimes LL can suck & sometimes LL rocks!
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

You're just mad

because for once, a thread revolves around the site's ACTUAL owner rather (in a roundabout way) than you, someone who 'owns' the site...but only in your own warped little mind.

It's NOT your site, get over it already.

Also, yeah, you have brought up your Polish ancestry literally hundreds of times. Perhaps if you weren't such a wet-brain you'd recall as much. Your very existence serves to reenforce the stereotype of the typical "dumb Pole".

You're an alcoholic, narcissist attention whore who lives off of other people's money. You're like a reverse King Midas; everything you touch turns into shit.

Ooh, is this the part where you deflect with some bullshit emotional garbage that has nothing to do with anything I just pointed out? Go cry in your beer and write a poem about it, zilch.

If a mod bans me for this post then so be it. It's the truth and everyone who has interacted with you knows it, whether they're honest enough to admit it or not.

A signature used to be here!

Michael Nystrom's picture

But I am special

You are too. And you, and you, and you and you and you.

Tom, where did you get this idea that people aren't special?

All people are special.



don't listen to me when I have two bottles of wine.

Disregard it.
I suffer from extreme depression.

Enjoy your weekend my friend!

LL on Twitter: http://twitter.com/LibertyPoet
sometimes LL can suck & sometimes LL rocks!
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15


That is really rude, and arrogant, and uncalled for.

Blessings )o(

It's LL

What did you expect? ;)

A signature used to be here!




Not sure if there's any point in writing this, but I don't think acting like he's special was the purpose of this post!

Jefferson's picture

I know

How dare he make one post about his ancestry compared to your hundreds. Everyone knows you are the greatest freedom fighter the world has ever known. If you were a singer you'd be Celine Dion, the greatest e-v-e-r in all mankind! How dare he act so "special" because you NEVER do that. You're just automatically special by gracing us with your "essence."

"I never pushed my being Polish."

No...... you would never do that.

"Jestem Polakiem"
Submitted by legalizeliberty on Sun, 04/01/2012 - 22:55. Permalink
I'm proud Polish.
Freedom Fighter!"

"I'm Polish born Canadian...but I'm also Irish in my heart."

"Imagine how much attention you get being born 15 minutes before midnight on Christmas Eve in Warsaw the heart of Catholic Poland."

"I am Polish born..."
Submitted by legalizeliberty on Wed, 11/17/2010 - 16:53. Permalink
"and I will always be a Polish freedom fighter."

"Here I am Polish Canadian freedom fighter finishing his bottle of wine."

"I am a Polish born freedom soldier..."

"I see myself as the "natural born...freedom fighter" -- growing up in Communist Poland "

"I'm just a Canadian (Polish born) poet freedom fighter."

(my fingers got tired but I'm sure there are a few hundred more out of the over 50 THOUSAND mostly self aggrandizing posts)

When is this clown going to get the boot? He's obviously in yet another drunken stupor, and apparently jealous again that someone upstaged his DIVAness. Pull the freakin' switch already.


That is seriously funny! :)

Lord Acton, Lord Chief Justice of England, 1875 - "The issue which has swept down the centuries and which will have to be fought sooner or later is the People v. The Banks."

you started to hate me

the day I send MN your "sniper tactics" post.
This post could have shut down the DP.
MN was very thankful for me pointing this out -- SAVIN HIS SITE!

LL on Twitter: http://twitter.com/LibertyPoet
sometimes LL can suck & sometimes LL rocks!
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

Jefferson's picture


deflection. Let me smack you on the side of the head once again.

I NEVER POSTED ANY "SNIPER TACTICS" THREAD...EVER. If I have, then let MN post it or send it to me, and I WILL APOLOGIZE AND BAN MYSELF IMMEDIATELY. If no PROOF (which there isn't) can be provided then YOU agree to be banned. How's that for a bet?

The only "sniper" related content was posted by THIS guy, but you wouldn't know that because you're a delusional drunk that doesn't remember what he does from one day to the next. You've been drunk the entire week.

Take me up on the bet Tom. I DARE you. Either put up or STFU.

Michael, feel free to unpublish this. I'm sorry for littering your thread. I can't stand this guy any longer. And, if you have this alleged content, then I will stand by my words and ban myself. This accusation is getting old. The whole "legalizeliberty" bullshit is getting old. Now this guy is all "Rand Paul 2016" after all the shit he caused with the GJ thing?!? He should bloom where he's planted and focus on his own back yard. Noninterventionalism.

photoshopwiz's picture


staggeringly astonishing. :[

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Truth is

We are all slaves here.

Michael Nystrom is a slave as well.

None of us is free.
We just float around trying to wake up as many folks
as possible in the short time we have. To do it.

LL on Twitter: http://twitter.com/LibertyPoet
sometimes LL can suck & sometimes LL rocks!
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

Just another example of what

Just another example of what we are told can't happen here but history shows it already did, and thus could happen again.

Michael Nystrom's picture

I wasn't here yet, and my mom was in Japan during WWII

She was in her late teens, living in Yokohama. A beautiful young woman she was - I have pictures of her.

But she told me stories of the air raids by the Americans, when you had to turn out all the lights, hide, and not move as the air raid sirens wailed, and the bombs fell, and you cowered in terror hoping not to die. In the morning you saw the open trucks, filled with dead bodies in the back, bouncing along as the truck made its way down the road through town.

I must have been about 8 years old when she told me that story. I'm sure I'll never forget it.

Grave of the Fireflies (Japanese movie 1988)

Michael, if you have not seen this animated movie, I highly recommend you grab some tissue and watch it. It’s visually beautiful and poetic although painfully sad. The setting is Japan WWII and revolves around two orphaned children. Roger Ebert (film critic) gives the movie high marks as a war movie because it depicts the horrors of war bringing it home viscerally in a thoughtful way without the distraction of political demagoguing.

Here is an introductory video that gives you a flavor of it. Last year I looked but did not find a full version video online so I bought the DVD on eBay. It has been compared to Disney’s animations as a movie classic. This is one of the saddest movies you will ever see; most who view it are deeply impacted.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9WEyuMq0Yk (Ebert review)

I watched it when I was a kid

and I liked it a lot, until I grew up and knew how the Japanese treated my people (Chinese) and other people during the war, then I realize this was just a film that wants to direct the blame of suffering during the war to the Americans!

Talking about blaming the victims! Whose fault is it that Japan invaded China and killed up to 35 million people? Whose fault is it that Japan invaded Indochina and Southeast Asia? Whose fault is it that Japan decided to fight the strongest nation in the world at that time? I'd say, don't blame the victims! Take responsibilities for your own actions.

I'm sorry that happened to you--

to your people, that is.

The fact is that seldom is Japan's 'side' told. Yes, the Japanese imperialists were terrible; they were; they were terrible.

They were like imperialists everywhere.

And they did a good job of brainwashing their own people--

however, America has had no excuse but sheer greed for invading other countries, mostly covertly, see:


Japan's treatment of the people in China and Indochina, etc. was inexcuseable. It was wrong.

But the Japanese 'island' was becoming overcrowded, and their natural resources are not abundant.

Yes, they should have purchased land in those countries, as the European Americans should have purchased land from the native Americans--

everyone should have done things differently. But America can't blame low natural resources for invading other countries--

Japan could.

Things were desperate for Japan. Have you been in Japan. It is a tiny country--an island nation--

and is very limited in resources.

I remember speaking to elderly Japanese who talked about how afraid they were of hunger even before the war, because there were too many people for such a small area--

That wasn't an excuse any of the other nations who aggressed before, during, and after WWII could give--

it doesn't make it right; they could have found another way. But Japan could trust no other country--

there was nowhere to turn.

Yes, Japan paid a high price for trying to extract through violence what *she* should have found another way to get: food for *her* people--

and, yes, there were people who thought too much of the empire.

I'm not excusing Japan; I am simply trying to explain the situation in which Japan found *herself*--

Why did people from Japan go to Hawaii and the West coast of America? Because things were difficult in Japan--

and they were not treated so well in America; in Hawaii they were practically slaves--

it is important to see all sides of a 'story'--

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

Responsibility of govts as opposed to the innocence of victims

I personally feel the Japanese government owes an apology to China particularly for the Rape of Nanking. Like other sad situations of tyranny pervading over reason and compassion, denial and pride interfere with accountability and atonement. Japan is not the only country guilty of that. China is not without guilt. One need only look to Tibetans for the domination they are enduring under Chinese rule where the Tibetans would tell you the shoe is on the other foot. Tiananmen Square symbolized state tyranny against its own people. The purpose of the film Grave of the Fireflies as Roger Ebert explains was not to blame Americans. In fact he praises the film for its absence of finger pointing other than its showing how destructive the fire bombing was. The two orphaned children represent all children and innocent people who are tragic victims of one country’s state tyranny over another country. How many children are being killed by the USA via drone strikes? How many children died when sanctions were imposed on Iraq (the number exceeds 500,000). Pointing fingers and dehumanizing innocent children and people due to evil governments won’t bring us closer to resolving the inequities in this world. Understanding the destruction war causes and doing our best to dissuade a war mongering policy regardless of what nationality we are will go further in promoting world peace. I sincerely grieve over the loss of the innocent Chinese as much as I do the Japanese who were mercilessly bombed in WWII. I hope you eventually come to view the tragedy of war as the monster it is which knows no color boundaries other than how you choose to frame it. Peace to you.


Unfortunately, there are evil people who don't care about the lives of innocent people.

And, often, the evil people are in positions of power. Before globalist bankers there were people like Alexander the Great and Ghengis Khan, both of whom valued their ambitions over the lives of fellow human beings.

Timeless, universal problem.

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--