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4:50 AM… Federal Agents pull up, two Flash Bang Grenades and then…

…a recorded message?

“Federal Agents enforcing a search warrant” (Neighbors name) “Please come out of your house with your hands up” Repeatedly played over a loud speaker while the agents waited in defensible positions out front.

This is how my neighbor was arrested 1-26-2013 at 4:50 in the morning.

I was sleeping with my bedroom window open since it was a beautiful night out. (I apologize to anyone freezing their cheeks off in other parts of the country; I currently live in Oceanside CA, so I was enjoying some fresh ocean air). I believe what started to wake me was the large number of cars pulling up, down the street. Seconds later I was fully awake when the flash bang grenades went off; however, initially I believed these to be shotgun blasts. Because the blasts sounded so close, I hit the floor running to make sure my family members were safe… Then the above (poorly paraphrased) recording started playing over and over lasting approximately 2 minutes. By the time I had checked on my loved ones and clothed myself, the recording had stopped and my neighbor was being taken away in the back of a 4 door car with blacked out windows.

The “Agents” I saw were dressed like your typical G-men- not soldiers in Afghanistan. There was no SWAT team. No local Police. No Urban Assault Vehicle. No door breech. And from what I could tell the flash bangs were deployed in the entryway, next to the closed front door.

Has anyone else seen anything like this?

Is this a new method of serving Search Warrants? Is it to prevent unwanted attention, lawsuits, keep the body counts down, or?

(If you don’t know what Flash Bang Grenades are; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YsC6M4GFoc The police in this video think FBGs are funny, but no one in my neighborhood was laughing.)

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You should sue whatever agency for disturbing the peace

They woke you up and 'terrorized' you needlessly. Whatever happened to stakeouts and waiting for the suspect to be in plain site to arrest?

If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.
James Madison


That would be the ideal method. But unfortunately this kid-gloves type raid is the best we can hope for in a police state.

Its not much consolation,

But its a huge improvement over a door breach raid. I would rather they do this than drag people out of their beds. Surrounding the place and giving the occupants plenty of time to come out is far more civilized. Now the only issue is whether or not the person committed an actual crime.

Looks like I got out of there

just in time :)



"He's this eccentric Ghandi-Like figure that you cant touch with the normal bribes that people respond to."
the man Doug Wead on DR. RON PAUL

What was the warrant?

Enforcement of an unconstitutional law?

This guy may need so help. The government is guilty until proven innocent.

Free includes debt-free!

No one seems to know

or the sad part... care. Dude is not around to ask :(

I believe it is public record, authorized by the court.

If not the neighborhood was terrorized to execute a kidnapping.

Free includes debt-free!

I don't know if you've seen it

These are my friends. This was a "possible domestic dispute" - a bogus call from an unfriendly neighbor.

Do you have any idea what your neighbor is charged with? Because you need to understand the nature of "terrorism." The victim that night was not your neighbor, it was your neighborhood. A nice display of force was put on, and now everyone in your neighborhood knows that if they do anything out of line, they can expect this kind of treatment. No one ever thinks to ask - "Is this OK?" It does not sound like your neighbor was dangerous or resistant, it sounds like other stories I have heard where "law enforcement" showed up to a non-violent situation and brought potential violence with THEM. The net effect is an entire neighborhood that is probably a little more compliant today than they were last week.

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

Not sure what he was charged with

Interesting, out of all my neighbors, only 2 of us went out to actually try and see what was happening.

I live in Oceanside and "show of force" is all around me... Camp Pendleton is right next door some nights the bombing is nonstop.

forgot the link!


Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

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That was horrible .are they

That was horrible .are they ok now?

It is easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled. – Mark Twain

No, but thank you for asking.

What you see is what the police released. That is the where the cops are being nice.
You saw how it went down. A clearly unharmed woman was the first thing they saw, so whatever "domestic violence" they were checking on obviously was minor. Then they harmed her... She still suffers neck problems, but is doing pretty well.
Then you see Bear come out, dazed and confused, but not the least bit resistant or belligerent. You saw he got on his knees and got cuffed without incident. Then the camera cuts off.
They continued to hold Bear at gunpoint - and I mean gun to head - with finger on trigger, safety off, for about another 10 minutes. Then they ordered this old guy up, and he was trying but he's got bad knees and he was in handcuffs and he's no spring chicken - so they grabbed him by one arm and jerked him halfway up, injuring his shoulder. Then, before he had his feet under him, they dropped him. He fell square on his tailbone, and he has been walking with a cane ever since. They lost almost all of their harvest, because Bear could not help at all, and Marcela was hurt badly enough that she could just barely keep up with minimum chores.
These people were quietly working toward self reliance, and this would have been their first "make money" harvest.
They had 3 attorneys take the case, almost drooling it was such an "open and shut" situation. All three of them dropped the case a few days later. You tell me why.

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

Wow. Disgusting

Sorry for your friends.

The government terrorizes neighborhoods at home and abroad.

We, and our children will be paying for this privilege for generations.

Free includes debt-free!

We provide the funds

through fiat money inflation caused by the federal reserve who then funnels the money into the International Monetary Fund to support violent coups and totalitarian dictators who already do terrorize their population.

They terrorize domestically and abroad financially for sure. Domestically they can be be even more blatant because the people accept so much already. The greatest form of slavery is being trapped in a prison but you can't see the bars.