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Confederacy

Inspired by Michael Nystrom's 'Here's the plan guys' post, here is a DP original about what my profile picture represents.

It is a picture of the 'rutlischwur' of 1307, at which representatives of the cantons (local autonomous regions) Schwyz, Uri and Unterwalden made an oath that they would come to each others' aid militarily in the event of invasion by any external force. That oath became the basis of the Swiss Confederacy. More and more regions, expanding from those central three, joined the oath of mutual military assistance against attack. It became known as the 'Everlasting Alliance'.

The document portrayed is a representation of the agreement they made that day. It says:

"We want to be a single People of brethren,
Never to part in danger nor distress.
We want to be free, just as our fathers were,
And rather die than live in slavery.
We want to trust in the highest God
And never be afraid of human power."

This was soon to be tested however. The empire of the day, the Austrian Hapsburgs, soon sent armies to crush the upstarts who had the impudence to think they could be free. But in many battles, culminating in the Battle of Sempach in 1386, the confederates prevailed and won their freedom.

Thus the Swiss Confederacy became an island of Liberty in the ocean of tyranny that was medieval Europe. It shows the ultimate effectiveness of Liberty as a model for human organisation. There was no ruler, no executive. There was not even a state as such, other than locally. All there was was a collection or network of binding agreements between independent, autonomous cantons that were bound ONLY by those agreements.

Needless to say the Confederacy became the most peaceful and prosperous nation in European history.

Unfortunately the country was finally conquered by the tyrant Napoleon in 1798. When imperial France was defeated in 1815 Switzerland was liberated and regained its freedoms, but much damage was done. The original confederate Liberty was ended in a civil war of 1847 which much like the American war between the States imposed the despised centralised federalism for the first time.

Nevertheless for nearly 400 years the Old Swiss Confederacy was a model of Liberty the world over, and I believe it STILL is a model for how political organisation of human beings' affairs can be done righteously, for the blessing and happiness of all involved. It shows the ultimate success and stability of the most perfect form of political organisation to which we should all aspire - Confederacy.

If you are interested in learning more I recommend the great book "Free and Swiss".

May God bless us with Liberty.



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Obedience to God is resistance to tyrants.

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Obedience to God is resistance to tyrants.

Great post!

Who is the author of "Free and Swiss?" I'm having trouble finding that book on a Google search, or on Amazon.

Hi Rex

Here it is:

http://books.google.com.au/books/about/Free_and_Swiss.html?i...

http://www.amazon.com/Free-Swiss-The-Story-Switzerland/dp/08...

Authors are Georg Thürer, R. P. Heller, E. Long

Obedience to God is resistance to tyrants.

$4.19, a great deal!

Thanks!

Cool never knew about medieval Iceland!

Anyone care to describe how it worked?

Obedience to God is resistance to tyrants.

Principles?

Competition was not crushed by a monopoly power and therefore the collective sum total of all the market decisions by all the people constituted a force that worked tirelessly toward higher quality and lower cost?

Joe

I know, but

what was the setup? My understanding is that a bunch of individual colonists had their own extended farms, that were essentially individual colonies. They met once a year to resolve disputes in the 'Allthing' or meeting to discuss all things. Was there any more structure to it than that?

Obedience to God is resistance to tyrants.

I found something

https://notendur.hi.is//~bthru/runolfsson2.pdf

That link is new to me. I started reading it, and I picked it to be worthy of note since the information includes a reference to game theory.

You can scoff, or you can inspect, and if you have any questions as to what the person is speaking about, then you can look into it yourself, or you can ask someone, even me, for help.

Here is very good link on the specific type of game theory known as The Prisoner's Dilemma.

Before I link this applet be advised that my cousin tried the link and his software on his computer warned him of an attack by virus, or something, but I've checked mine and I think the problem is a Java script requirement that may have to be downloaded. The concept is explained in English, and Math, and there is a visual illustration of how the math works with that missing Java script dependent Applet - it is worth viewing in my opinion.

http://prisonersdilemma.sergehelfrich.eu/

On the question of how hard, or how easy, it is to subjugate the otherwise Liberated targets (potential "tax payers") there is this:

http://www.rand.org/pubs/rgs_dissertations/RGSD127/sec2.html

That helps address the question of how the Icelandic Commonwealth (or any Free Market government) is crushed from within and from without.

Edit: From my reading the Icelandic Commonwealth reported in that link defines a Free Market government in much the same was as the Democratic Federated Republic exemplified under The Articles of Confederation here in American between 1776 and 1788, before Central Bank (Counter Revolutionary) Powers (The "Federalist") took over.

Joe

Gaea Vindice

Thanks for the recap! In addition to Medieval Iceland, the Swiss Confederation stand as startling reminders for anarcho-phobic mainstream marxists.

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Free Market Government

The Democratic Federated Republic design of government has the design feature by which The People retain the POWER to choose to join or not join a Voluntary Union, and they retain the POWER to choose to pay for, or not pay for Union Dues.

How?

The obvious problem is any group of people who are organized into a POWER greater than the POWER of any other group of people whereby one group uses their POWER to enslave the other group. By definition the weaker POWER is subjected to the stronger POWER.

The People are therefore set to solve a problem that appears to be difficult on the surface, because the surface is a False Front.

The People, here and there, in this place, and in that place, at this time, and at that time, solved the problem in competitive ways.

Examples include:

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Many very old societies studied by people who have an interest in studying old societies. Erich Fromm is a reference for those examples. Athens with government by sortition is an example.

2.
The Icelandic Common Wealth

3.
England at the time when Magna Carte was working with Trial by Jury based upon Sortition

4.
Holland a the time of the American Revolution

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Switzerland

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Each competitive State that were former Colonies of England during the American Revolution under The Articles of Confederation.

7.
The Democratic Federated Republic that consisted of 13 Separate and Sovereign States volunteering, and paying voluntary Union Dues, to be a part of a defensive POWER under The Articles of Confederation.

Each of 13 former Colonies were separate, but small, Governments, and at that time period, between 1776 and 1788 The People defended their Liberty against the largest aggressive army of invaders aiming to subjugate all The People in America, so that first problem was demonstrably solved.

Each State could have been subjected to enslavement by the aggressors had they not all been attacked in turn, or had they not gained the help of France, or had they not voluntarily joined together to defeat the common enemy, the enemy army invaders who invaded for fun and profit were defeated.

Problem: Very large criminal armies roaming the Earth and making slaves out of otherwise free people living in Liberty.

Solution: The Articles of Confederation designed to maintain State Sovereignty and combine defensive military POWER, including a POWER to make defensive treaties with other POWERS such as France.

Problem solved, as demonstrated by The People who actually drove the criminals out of America.

The other Problem had to do with our own hired employees becoming tyrants and enslaving The People after the emergency of invasion was over.

That was not a problem as demonstrated with Shays's Rebellion, because the solution was built into the Democratic Federated Voluntary Republic Free Market Competitive Government Design modeled after Holland and Switzerland.

The design of a Democratic Federated Republic is such that The People can vote with their feet from one State to another State, as one State may go bad, and one State attempts to make slaves out of The People in that State.

That is Free Market Forces in Government in Action: vote with your feet, since it is legal.

Problem A:
Large Armies of Aggression for Profit roaming the Earth

Solved: Democratic Federated Republic design of Free Market Government under The Articles of Confederation where Slavery is not Legal according to the Voluntary Agreement of Constitutionally limited Sovereign States forming that Republic.

Problem B:
Rouge governments, States that turn into Despotism, inside the Voluntary Union of States.

Solved: Slaves can run away from one State and move to another State and no Federal Employee is given the legal license to return a runaway slave back to the State that has turned to Despotism, or even if there is a State comprised of people in a State that is demonstrably Despotic (slave states) despite Constitutional Limitations in that State (swept under the rug). Shays's Rebellion provided the legal precedent and the proof that the Free Market Voluntary Solution of a Democratic Federated Republic of Voluntary Union Dues Paying Separate and Sovereign States banded together into one defensive POWER works to solve those problems.

Problem C:
The Union itself, the Federal Part, not the State part, of the Voluntary Union becomes despotic, no longer a voluntary Union.

Solved:
As States refuse to pay Union Dues because States are not buying Despotism, the Federal part of the Voluntary Union no longer gains currency or POWER since the State governors, and The People who hire the State governors, stop paying the Union Dues when the Federal Employes become Despotic.

There are many examples of State governments refusing to pay their Union Dues, reporting to other State governments intentions to secede from the Voluntary Union unless there is a move away from Despotism. Those reported intentions proved how that check on that runaway power worked, in fact, in many cases.

You, you there, if you keep making your crimes legal, I will pay you no more money, got it?

It worked, so why not get it working again?

1.
End the FED
2.
End the IRS
3.
Bring the Troops Home
4.
Start now and be done with it by July 4th 2013

Joe

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Obedience to God is resistance to tyrants.

Interestingly

they do not cover this at all in government-approved college courses. -_- Switzerland was totally ignored.

So now perhaps I understand Patrick Henry's words better:

http://users.wfu.edu/zulick/340/henry.html: "The question turns, sir, on that poor little thing�the expression, We, the people, instead of the states, of America. I need not take much pains to show that the principles of this system are extremely pernicious, impolitic, and dangerous. Is this a monarchy, like England a compact between prince and people, with checks on the former to secure the liberty of the latter? Is this a confederacy, like Holland an association of a number of independent states, each of which retains its individual sovereignty? It is not a democracy, wherein the people retain all their rights securely."

Oops...Patrick Henry was talking about Holland, not Switzerland. Oh well. The real reason I popped in here was to "troll" you willl...I have a VIDEO evidencce of some LEGAL CRIMINALS perpetrating some LEGAL CRIME right here in my own states. And I have been dying to bug you about Legal Criminals and saw your ID come up tonight.

Here, the mafia is now the state and their crimes are legal:

http://www.dailypaul.com/272295/morningland-dairy-raw-milk-c...

BTW Nice post, I enjoyed the history of Switzerland...you know the Legal Criminals had to take it over so Hitler could bank there: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veQfroRUWdM

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Ha ha, thanks Bear

You've cheered me up. Not sure about Holland at that time, didn't know it was a Confederacy but will check it out. The Morningland milk thing is shocking! My problem with the 'legal crimes' phrase was never about evidence tho, its linguistics! Legal ≠ crime. That's an axiom! So it seems to me not logically consistent to use both together, it negates both meanings :) But lets not get into it!! Will check the banking film out.

Changed the title for you!

Obedience to God is resistance to tyrants.

Good!

I am glad to cheer you up. I know you don't like those words together...but there is powerful truth buried in that oxymoron: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxymoron
:)

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Obedience to God is resistance to tyrants.

I think

you should change the title of your post to draw people in...nosey aren't I, but I see you self bumped and I think the information you provided is interesting. I am here because I was looking for you. :)

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Good read, too. Short and sweet. Makes me want to brush up on Medieval European History. Been a while.

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