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The Government wants your guns, not to protect you, but to protect themselves from you

After thinking about it for some time, I have decided to share my true story with you, in the hope that maybe even a few can be convinced of the absolute tyrannical state of our government and the absolute necessity of fighting to keep our 2nd Amendment rights at all costs.

What I am about to tell you is the truth. I am not twisting the facts in any way or changing any names to protect the innocent (whoever they may be).

In 1999, I ran a successful business with my father and brother. My dad came across some information that literally shattered my beliefs about the rule of law in this country and literally changed my life forever. He came across a man named Irwin Schiff (yes, Peter Schiff’s dad...who is now in federal prison because he was not allowed to bring up the law in his defense) who had written a book (The Federal Mafia...which is now banned...so much for the 1st Amendment) unequivocally stating that the Income Tax, as it was being imposed was a fraud. He asserted that the 16th Amendment did NOT give the federal government the authority to directly tax a person’s wages and that because of this, the term “income” as used in the 16th Amendment was not defined in the Internal Revenue Code, nor was there any liability section ever created for Income Taxes in the IRC stating who exactly is required to pay the tax (as there is for EVERY other tax in the IRC). I was literally shocked by this information, as was my dad. If it was true, the federal government was getting away with one of the greatest hoaxes in American history. How could this be true in America...the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave?

For the next year I studied, and I studied and read court cases and statutes and regulations trying to get to the bottom of it, and ultimately I came to the conclusion that Irwin Schiff was correct. There is no law requiring anybody to pay the income tax (no liability section) and income as used in the 16th Amendment has a very different legal definition than what the American people had been led to believe. I cried...I literally did, at the discovery that the American people had literally been enslaved, and most did not even realize it, me included!! If they can lay claim to 30% of your hard earned money...why not 40%?...why not 50%?...why not all of it? How can any person ever define themselves as being free, while another can lay claim to the fruits of their labor? The plain truth is, they can not.

After much agonizing debate and discussion, my dad, myself and my brother mustered up all of the courage that we could find and we decided to challenge the income tax head on. I live in Mass. and because they have adopted the federal code (i.e. whatever income means on the federal level, it also means in Mass.) it was necessary to challenge it both on the state and federal levels.

I want to say first, that I never hid anything that I was doing from anybody (I was extremely naive). We had an S-Corp and the Corporation continued to file yearly Corporate Returns and paid all of the legitimate taxes that were assessed against it (i.e. excise and sales taxes); however, we filed our personal returns showing zero “16th Amendment Income” with an attachment detailing why we believed we had zero “16th Amendment Income”, including all of the relevant case law, and asking for further clarification and explanation if our interpretation was incorrect. Basically, we just asked them to defined the term “income” as used in the 16th Amendment (because it is not defined in the IRC), tell us where we could find the liability section for income in the IRC and show us the law requiring us to pay taxes on our wages!

That was the beginning of a firestorm that has changed my life forever. We had bank accounts seized, properties attached and credit lines revoked all for simply asking them to show us the law! Even the IRS has guidelines which state that they are required to give you a due process hearing upon request PRIOR to collection activity, as does the state; however, we found out that apparently their own rules and regulations are optional for them. Regardless, we stayed the course for six long years, fighting back unlawful bank seizures and property levies, going to hearing after hearing and never once were our questions ever answered. I cannot count at this point the thousands of hours I devoted to this because I believed (and still do) that what I was asserting was true. I had lawyers and people in government (off the record) tell me that “technically” we were correct, but it did not matter, we were going to lose anyway!

Going to the IRS appeals hearings were literally a joke, albeit not a funny one. At one hearing, we waited for hours and then finally had a feeble woman come out and sit at the table with us who refused to answer a single question or provide us with any of the information we requested. She silently sat there while we presented our case to her and never once attempted to answer any of our questions (honestly, I don’t think she had a clue how to answer them). Afterward, she told us we would be notified in writing of the result of our hearing. And of course it was the same old stock answer “the courts have ruled that challenging the income tax is frivolous” (ie: Resistance is Futile), and their responses never, ever provided specific answers to the questions that we had asked. Not once.

We took our fight with the state all the way to the Appellate Tax Board, with the same results... questions never answered, same old stock non-answers always provided with a level of arrogance that rivals any King. Subjects are not allowed to question their King you silly girl!

In 2005, I lost my final appeal to the Mass. appellate tax board and had filed my notice of appeal with the state, when my dad was diagnosed with Stage 4 Liver Cancer and given less than six months to live. I was devastated by the loss of my dad and that was it for me....I couldn’t fight them anymore. I was broke, our company had failed without access to credit lines and I just couldn’t do it, not alone. My brother had already given up and moved out west.

A peculiar thing happened with the IRS though; my final appeal with them was returned to me in it’s entirety with a copy of my master IMF file showing zero taxes due. There was an angel at the agency who zeroed out my account, no name provided, no explanation given. I was glad for it.

The state; however, has turned what would have been a $20,000 +/- tax liability into a $275,000 tax liability with their absurd penalties and interest. Talk about usury...that is more than 1000 times what the original liability would have been. It may as well be $2,000,000 at this point, because it is more than I can ever repay, nor would I ever be willing to give them that amount of money even if I could. At one point, I filed another appeal challenging the amount of penalties and interest they have added and they denied my appeal request. I simply do not have the funds to fight them in court, nor do I have any confidence of the rigged system ruling in my favor if I did.

They have now revoked my license to drive indefinitely because of the “alleged” unpaid taxes. I can not “legally” drive; however, I do what I need to do. Those who are not willing to act as a free people, regardless of what they say, will never be a free people. I have tried for two years to find a job and figure I will find a way to get there once I get it; however, I have been unsuccessful to date. I don’t know this for sure, but I know that many companies do credit checks and I think that a $275,000 tax liability on my credit report is not conducive to finding work.

I attempted to get a “hardship” license but I was told by the RMV that there is nothing they can do. Apparently “hardship” licenses are available only to drunk drivers and not tax challengers.

This whole event is what opened my eyes to not only the fact that we no longer live under the rule of law in this country, but even worse, that we are being governed by criminals who care nothing about the oaths that they took and even less about the lives that they destroy. More often then not these days, I am angry. I am angry at what has happened to my country. I am angry by the manner in which my life was destroyed for simply asking that the Constitution and our laws be followed. I am angry that too many people turn a blind eye to the corruption and chaos that has engulfed our once great nation. I am angry and devastated by the fact that our children are going to live under a system of tyranny that is exactly the opposite of what our founding fathers fought and died to leave for us. I am so sad that there is a very real possibility that the generations to come will have no idea or concept of what true freedom really is....if understood at all, it will be nothing more than a myth or an unattainable dream. It is only my faith in God and the love of my children that keep me going and fighting most days. I have lose everything else, but really, they are all that matters anyway.

So why should you care, some of you may be thinking? You pay your taxes and you live just fine, for now anyway. Pay your taxes and you won’t have a problem..right? Wrong! No one is safe when you have a government that turns a blind eye to the rule of law. No one. And with Obamacare recently being passed, I can see crystal clear where this is headed. Despite Justice Roberts disingenuous and absurd ruling, the IRS does have teeth to enforce Obamacare. They have sufficient teeth at this point to enforce anything that they want to, who is going to stop them....you? Get the healthcare or pay the fine or they will destroy you. Period. Just ask Irwin Schiff. Just ask the thousands of other people who have been victimized by that despicable agency and a government gone rogue. Just ask me.

Mark my words, it is going to get to the point where many, many people simply will not be ABLE to comply with the requirement, simply because they won’t have the funds to do so, but at the same time, they won’t earn a small enough amount to qualify for the “free to me” healthcare (not to mention those of us who quite simply don’t want “free to me” healthcare). Despite the lies that the media force fed us, this legislation will not result in decreased premiums. It is going to result in increased premiums because the insurance companies now know you don’t have a choice but to pay them. That is EXACTLY why the insurance companies pushed for this legislation and it is EXACTLY what happened in Massachusetts and is EXACTLY what is going to happen nationwide. This legislation is going to completely decimate our middle class. I would bet my life on it. It now costs anywhere from $1,200 - $1,500 per month for a family health plan in Massachusetts, and what they are required to cover gets smaller and smaller every year. How many of you have room in your budget for an extra $1,200 - $1,500 per month, not including the extra payments you will have to make for all the stuff the insurance companies no longer will cover?

So, a lot of people are going to have their hours cut back, so that their companies don’t have to provide the insurance (those that don’t lose their jobs all together); however, they are still going to be required to have insurance, at an ever increasing price, or face an IRS penalty, which is sure to increase and increase (and the insane interest) and the levies and hardship that will accompany your failure to comply. Ultimately, they will levy bank accounts, lien properties and revoke driver’s licenses, just as they do in Mass. if you do not pay your penalties and many more lives will be destroyed. As Massachusetts goes, so goes the nation. We are the testing ground. Soon, many, many more are going to be very much awake and very angry...just like me.

So, why do you think they want our guns? Angry people with guns is never good news for rogue governments. The door is closing on freedom in America and the 2nd Amendment is our last foot in the door. As stated by so many before, the 2nd Amendment is the only means to protect the other 9, when all else fails. Without it, any hope of restoring liberty to this country is lost...possibly forever. If this government can do what it’s done to an armed populace, can you imagine what it is capable of doing to an unarmed populace? Are you really willing to find out? Do you really think that a government that is willing to enslave it’s entire population through deception really cares about whether or not a “lone gunman” goes crazy and kills some people? Believe me when I tell you that they could care less about any of us getting shot...their only real concern is that we finally become angry enough to collectively turn our guns on them...and the clock is ticking. Things are about to get really bad, really soon in this country and our guns are our last, best hope of surviving it and having any control over what rises out of the ashes. We lose our guns and liberties’ dim light will finally go out with them.



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Banned

My trust in this article is limited by the fact that this "banned" book is available on Amazon. In what way is it banned?
http://www.amazon.com/Federal-Mafia-Illegally-Unlawfully-Col...

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They took Irwin

Schiff to court and got an injunction against him preventing him from ever selling the book. This does not mean that it is illegal to own the book or read the book, nor does it bar third parties from offering the book. The injunction was specific to Mr. Schiff and his ability to make money off of the book that he spent years and an untold amount of time researching and writing. He responded to their injunction by offering it for free on his website.

Hope that clarifies it for you.

They are not printed anymore,

They are not printed anymore, they are "new old stock" or used. Notice that Amazon themselves don't sell it. It's a 3rd party seller.

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Sorry for what you've gone

Sorry for what you've gone through Denise.

I know a guy who made a mistake on his tax returns about 10 years ago. With penalties and interest...a $5,000 mistake has turned into $50,000 he now owes the IRS.

He has no intention of ever giving them a dime. He does contractor work on the side and only takes cash payments. He doesn't keep money in the bank or anywhere else the government can get it's hands on it. They pester him from time to time, but he simply tells them he doesn't have it.

He's a happy guy too. He lives a very simple life with very few expenses.

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

I have for some time wanted

I have for some time wanted to challenge the IRS on income taxes. I have been doing research and gathering the facts and laws to do so. Unfortunatly every time I hear a story like this, it eats away at my desire to do so. Stories where the people win against the IRS are so few shows how hopeless it is to try. But I commend you for your courage and sacrifices made to attempt it. Unfortunatly (maybe it is fortunate when you look at it) I have realized that you cannot fight the corrupt system using laws, when those laws are on your side.

But the knowledge you have gathered is still needed, because there may be a time soon when we need it to fight back in masses. When 1 person speaks up they can silence it, when 100 they can blame it on an evil cult, but when 1,000,000 speak up they cannot resist.

And as for the 'rights' granted by the amendments, they are not 'granted' to you by the document. The document is there to state the rights that the government can not interfere with. Unfortunatly the government is still trying to take them away as if it is their's to control.

We have been silent and complacient for to long, and unfortunatly in our silence an army of corruption has been built up to use against us when we no longer wish to be silent.

Thank you for sharing your struggle with us.

I began to research government corruption back in 2004, and it has been an eye-opening experience. Your experience proves, without reasonable doubt, that all governments are rotten to the core. There are many reasons for this, but the main reasons are the fact that everything has been institutionalized under Trust law - this includes governments, political parties, courts, police, etc, and the fact that Secret Societies are permitted to exist. Secret Societies control the inner workings of government, commerce, banking - everything. In order to understand how the entire world is governed, Secret Societies must be researched. In this manner, you will know why all top positions in government, banking, corporations, etc., are filled only, with people who belong to Freemasonry, Order of Malta, Opus Dei, Jesuits, Rosicrucians, etc. The CIA, FBI, Mossad, MI5, Mi6 and all intelligence agencies are directly controlled by the Jesuits at the very top.

Denise, thank you for your testimony - it will be of great help in waking people up from their sleep. I know that you aren't asking for assistance, but if there is any way in which I can help, I would be more than happy to do so. I am pretty new to these boards, but I'm sure there is a way to get in touch. May Jesus bless everyone who loves Truth, Mercy and Justice!!!

Regards,
Alex_B

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Thank you so much

Alex for your comments and offer of assistance and it means more to me than I can express that you offered, but honestly God has provided for my basic necessities, sometimes in the most unexpected ways and from the most unexpected places, and that is all that I can ask for. My ultimate goal is to wake people up and get them engaged in protecting their families and their liberty in whatever way they can and I am very encouraged by the kind and caring responses from so many who have posted.

I believe also that you are correct in pointing out a number of "secret societies" that are operating behind the scenes, but I believe that the general apathy of the majority of our population is our greatest enemy to be feared. TPTB have spent so much time and so much effort and money in hiding the truth from the general public and we must continue to find ways to reveal the truth and the very real danger that we are all facing. The awesome thing is that once the truth is learned, it can not be unlearned and we have to keep chipping away until the dam finally breaks. God Bless and thank you again. :)

More Power to You! For Standing UP to the IRS

lack of reply indicates that at least the last clause of the First Amendment has gone down in flames. (At least in their view){The right to petition the government for redress of grievances, that is} They seem to be above the law, but they will receive justice. (Hopefully soon)

Things have just gotten worse year after year, administration after administration. We stand with you in this. (My husband and I have chosen the Planned Poverty route, for the present)

"Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern." ~~C.S. Lewis
Love won! Deliverance from Tyranny is on the way! Col. 2:13-15

Destroy

They just want total destruction so people will beg for some global socialist "utopia." Unfortunately this is all completely legal because technically everything including people is property of the elite. You cannot own land. You cannot own a car. You surely do not even own your physical body because it was signed over to the state when you were born (you think your parents sat there reading the fine print or had a lawyer present to explain to them the fine print?). Even if you buy something it's with money that is backed by debt (circular logic). In times in this country when you could actually own land it had to be paid for with gold or silver, not with greenbacks or a mortgage. I am not pessimistic, I am just explaining how things really are. If you don't comply, you will be thrown in jail to be raped. If you resist that you will simply be killed and the system will smear you to look wrong to society. I really don't think this is just some movement for power for the elite, I think it's a plan to destroy ALL life. No transhumanism, just nothing. The elite are morons and they are just all in competition and are just as much of a puppet as someone like Obama.

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Awesome!

Thank you so much for posting the link! They stopped Irwin from selling his book, but they can't stop him from giving it away for free and it is well worth the time it takes to read it and learn for yourself how deep the deception goes. Thanks again! :)

I don't get how you can get

I don't get how you can get out of paying taxes unless you earn money under the table. My employer kowtows to the demands of the IRS and I have had to have my wages levied from previous owed amounts.

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"Molon labe!"

That's all we can say now. It's our line in the sand.

They have us backed into a corner, but perhaps TPTB feel the same way. They feel threatened, and are now desperately going after the guns.

My heart breaks for you. I love you. I honor you. I hold you in the highest esteem.

God will give just retribution. And your reward will be great and your place in history held high, and people will ultimately acknowledge your courageous service to your enslaved brethren.

"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a rEVOLution before tomorrow morning." - Henry Ford

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Thank you underdog

and I love you too! Yes, God is just and I do take comfort in knowing that those that seek to destroy and harm others will someday be returned in kind for their evil. As far as honor goes, I try to reserve that for God alone, for I can do nothing without Him. Thank you so much though for your kind and heartfelt comments, they are very encouraging to me. :)

2nd Amendment

Deinis B - Please don't make a mistake regarding the 2nd Amendment.

The Constitution does not bestow any individual rights, including the 2nd Amendment, on me or anyone else. It was written to define and control the federal government. My rights are inalienable – and so are yours.

If it is agreed that a piece of paper can give or assure my "rights" then it would follow that changing that piece of paper could take away my inalienable rights – NOT!

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Is the 2nd Amendment a valid argument for owning a gun?

"Is referring to the 2nd amendment the best argument one can use to justify being "allowed" to own a gun? Not really. The Constitution is a piece of paper created by a few men a couple hundred+ years ago. It isn't a "legal" document you are a party to, or that you even signed. So why would one look to it as a guarantor or grantor of anything? Did it grant any rights? Unfortunately yes, but only the "supposed" right for a small group to use force against a larger one. And it also granted the small group the right to steal from the larger one, somehow. But it didn't, and doesn't, grant you any individual rights you don't already have. How could it? Rights are inherent and unalienable. They are part of being a human born into this world. The Constitution, ineffectively, supposedly tried to protect those rights from being encroached upon by others, especially government. If it would have worked we wouldn't be having this discussion.

You, and every individual living, has a right to life, and that right isn't defined by anybody but you. You are the sole "referee" of how that right will be protected and defended. Your rights are your responsibility. And yes, you are required to actively defend your right, if you value it. You have the biggest, vested interest in making sure that right is kept sacrosanct. As you have the most to lose if it is violated. Others will try to infringe on it and even dictate to you how you can protect it or exercise it. Those people are evil. They are bad people. You shouldn't listen to them or allow them to influence you in any way. They will try to limit you in your efforts to safeguard your right(s). Ignore them. They want to harm you or use you. They want to control you. They will exploit you, if you let them.

As the sole protector of your rights it would be wise to use the best tool and or tools you can find, create or acquire, to safeguard them. The people who want to harm you, rob you or control you, almost always choose guns as their tools. Fully automatic machine guns or assault rifles, and semi-automatic weapons, are all tools they use. They also have tanks, missiles, warplanes, warships and bombs in their arsenals. In the last century more than 100,000,000+ people have lost their right to life at the hands of these kinds of people. They were fooled into believing they didn't have the right to defend themselves. They believed, falsely, that others would protect them. That others cared about them and wouldn't harm them. That others would defend them. They believed in lies.

They were wrong and they are dead. http://www.amazon.com/Death-Government-R-J-Rummel/dp/1560009276

Don't look to a piece of paper for your rights. Don't waste your time. It is a fraud. What one politician says is your right another can then take away. Laws are whatever the ruling gang says they are. They have no legitimate or moral power over you at all. They can only do what you allow them to. The only real power they have over you is what you think they have. Your submission gives them power.

A gun is the best tool in the entire world a person can use for self-defense. That is a FACT. It is the ultimate equalizer. An 8 year old kid who knows how to use it becomes superior to the 250lb, 6'6" evil piece of crap who is trying to kill him. No other tool exists like it. A 95 year old woman in a wheel chair can also defend herself from that very same thug, successfully. What other tool could be used to do that? It doesn't exist!

If your enemy has a gun you better have one too. If he has an "assault rifle" you need one too. If he has a large magazine on his semi-auto, rifle why would you want any less? Why think you are going bring a knife to a gunfight and win? Surely you are smarter than that.

Bad people exist. Evil people exist. They are armed. They will kill you without any regret. Why would you not arm yourself with the best weapon, that works for you, that you can acquire? Nobody has a right to tell you what that might be. I sure don't and neither does anyone else. It is for you and you alone to decide. Don't let somebody else dictate what you are "allowed" to have when they don't play by the same rules. That makes you a sucker. It makes you a victim. And if you listen to them, you chose to do so and have nobody but yourself to blame when something bad happens as a result.

Screw the second amendment as your excuse for owning a gun! Arguing over what it means or what it allows is simply stupid. When you go down that slippery road you fall into the trap of the Hegelian dialectic and you will lose! Bad people use the willingness of reasonable people to compromise, for their own evil agenda. Hitler was pro gun control. So was Mao, Lenin, Castro and Pol Pot to name a few. And they all did what they did 'legally' because they made the laws.

Your individual right trumps everything else. Exercise it!"

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We are in

agreement for the most part. I agree that no piece of paper can protect or guarantee your rights, no matter how well written. Only the people themselves can do that. It is true that the Constitution has not kept the government from restricting and encroaching upon our natural rights, but as I have stated many times before, that is not so much a flaw with the document itself, but a failure of the people to defend the rights, not created by the document, but affirmed by it.

WOW!!

Thanks for sharing that story. I hope it opens everyones eyes as it has mine.

dave anderson

Thanks and welcome aboard

Like George Bush said: You are either with us or against us. I know which side I am on. I pledged the oath in 1968 to defend the constitution from evil I keep my promises. I am with you all the way. It is too bad you had to fight the fight all these years to find out what we all here know now. You have the battle scars and our fight has really just begun. All I can say is Thanks.

Heartbreaking. My father came

Heartbreaking. My father came to the same realization in the mid 70's. We still have Irwin Schiff's book, The Biggest Con, in hardcover. Ron Paul was a young congressman and a hero even then. In the early 80's my father.followed a similar course to yours while also conducting seminars to inform others. Yes, naivete caused him to be confident that truth and justice would prevail. Instead, it destroyed my family. He is now nearly 80 and is still angry and appalled and sees as clearly as you do the handwriting on the wall. Unfortunately, family members and extended family somehow blame him and refuse to believe and see the evil in our government and where this is all leading. I salute your courage and thank you for sharing your story. I shed tears again tonight for you and your family, for my family, for the Schiffs, for the idea of America.

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Thank you for

your kind comment and I am so sorry that your family also suffered at the hands of ruthless people. Tell your dad I said thank you and salute him as well for his courage. I also have run across both family members and friends who refuse to see the truth and these are the very people who will eventually find out the hard way, unfortunately, that turning a blind eye does not protect you. I have also had a lot of support from other people and despite everything, God has provided and I manage to keep a roof over my head and food on my table and I am thankful for that. There are people who have it a lot worse than me and many that are sitting in prison for violating a law that doesn't exist...very, very tragic indeed.

Thanks also for sharing your story :)

"So why should you care, some of you may be thinking?"

^ That would never have crossed my mind.

While reading your post, I tried to think of ways where we could all overcome this corrupt dilemna. Denise, my heart goes out to you and yours. Even if we all lose in the end, I will never stop trying. It may be possible that one thing will lead to another, such as unintended consequences. Maybe in the end, that will be the resolve.

Thank you for sharing this. You were articulate and accurate. I will share this and spread it, hopefully if enough people undertand, we can at least make a dent in this corrupted system.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

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Thank you

for your kind comments PA and thank you also for your efforts as well...it really does come down to increasing our numbers and waking people up to the truth. Each one of us contributes in our own way and when you live a principled life to the best of your ability and "fight the good fight", you never lose. Who knows what the future holds...I certainly have not conceded to failure yet. I leave it to God, although each one of us has a responsibility to live, speak and fight for the truth. Actions are ours, results are God's :)

(ringing a bell)

Come and get it.

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You're a hero to me

You sacrificed everything you loved to fight for your rights, I feel similar to the way you felt.

I'll keep paying my taxes though, even though it makes me cringe to think about what my dollars may be doing

The individual who refuses to defend his rights when called by his Government, deserves to be a slave, and must be punished as an enemy of his country and friend to her foe. - Andrew Jackson

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Thank you

for your kind comments. I did what I felt I had to do, but the point of me posting this was not to recommend that anyone do what I did, unless they have a full legal understanding of what they are doing and access to a lot of money to get through the process. There are others who have succeeded in challenging them on these grounds, Joseph Bannister, an ex IRS agent is one of them, but he also paid a very high price. We will not succeed in destroying this corrupt slave tax until there are enough people who are willing to join together to do it. One by one it is too easy for them to pick us off. There are many areas where we can fight them, pick one and stick to it.

The real point of the post is to show from my firsthand experience that we are no longer a nation living under the rule of law and anyone that thinks that this government has their best interest at heart is either not paying attention or they are just plain delusional and to warn people that when Obamacare kicks in, more suffering is sure to follow.

The point is also that a government that can do this to it's own people cares nothing at all about protecting you or me or a school full of children from "lone gunman". They don't care about children at all, because if they did, they wouldn't be leaving our children 22,000,000,000,000 in debt and destroying the economy at the same time nor would they implement a system of taxation based on fraud to steal our money at gunpoint.

These people are very dangerous to the well being of all of us and our children and our 2nd Amendment rights may soon be the only means we have left of getting back control of our country. We can not and must not give those rights up.