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Bad News For Middle Class America: IRS Says Cheapest Obamacare Plan Will Be $20,000 Per Family

Matt Cover | January 31, 2013 | CNSNews.com

In a final regulation issued Wednesday, the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) assumed that under Obamacare the cheapest health insurance plan available in 2016 for a family will cost $20,000 for the year.

Under Obamacare, Americans will be required to buy health insurance or pay a penalty to the IRS.

The IRS's assumption that the cheapest plan for family will cost $20,000 per year is found in examples the IRS gives to help people understand how to calculate the penalty they will need to pay the government if they do not buy a mandated health plan

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They will force many onto welfare

If they actually take 20,000 a year out of our income, I may have to go on welfare. I will try not to, but we have already cut out all "unnecessary" spending, save the occasional breakfast out. We can stop that, that will save us about $360 a year... I can't make that gap and still buy things like... gas for my husband to get to work.

This is the article that got my posting privileges revoked:
http://bklim.newsvine.com/_news/2013/05/12/18212165-dr-stan-...

Not surprised that free-heath-care will cost me $20,000 now.

But, it bereaves me when I hear the Internal Revenuors are apt to calculate & assess my penalty for my poor attention to my own health.

We shall do the same unto them. If they are found to be in ill health, we shall tax them as they do unto others. Imagine our benefits, should be tax revenuors found in ill health. Or ill temper... Distemper... Think of our possibilities.

Perhaps we will happen upon a revenuor vaccine. Our health benefits. Whilst revenuors pay... with their health... as they inoculate themselves from tax viruses.

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

I am still unclear on

how this works for those who can't afford it. If someone does not have a job or makes too little, will they still be required to pay the "penalty" or be jailed?

if this is true...

then there will be a revolt. 1 in 6 americans are on food stamps. We will see...this thing ain't over.

If the Democrats base revolts

If the Democrats base revolts they'll just shift the penalty to those with money. You know what's coming.

Who was it that said "If you think health care is expensive now,

just wait until it's free"?

The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.
Friedrich Nietzsche

they're adjusting for inflation...

...I mean the hyper inflation that's coming...

I'm paying almost $3600 now, so, with Fed printing continually; I should.be earning about $90/hour as.a.custodian, and gas will be at $24/gallon and......Silver will be at $200/ounce too..(and still artificially suppressed)...

So keep stacking!

This gets us back to the Single Payer plan

which is what the Republicans first introduced, doesn't it? Either way the government owns our bodies to selectively distribute "care". Do the IRS numbers factor in the 20+ million aliens that will need to be part of the system under the new "amesty" immigration policy? I haven't heard anyone talk about repealing any portion of Obamacare since the debates.

Is anyone talking about

Is anyone talking about doctors leaving their practices because there are diminishing reasons for them to practice medicine?

Yes, doctor shortage coming up.

Doctors started talking "retirement" back when HIPPAA was first enacted, they could see what was coming. There has even been a bit of news coverage about the threats of doctors to retire. It's all good... In response to the shortage of doctors, the Universities will lower admission standards - under the guise of "equal opportunity" would be my guess. This new generation of slightly less intelligent doctors will also be easier to thoroughly indoctrinate in the ways of Pharmacide, as they will not be taken under the wing of any older doctors who might actually remember a bit about "healing."
It is going to get ugly, if you have any health issues I would address them now, while there is still a prayer of finding a competent doctor.

This is the article that got my posting privileges revoked:
http://bklim.newsvine.com/_news/2013/05/12/18212165-dr-stan-...

In fact, I'd be increasingly

In fact, I'd be increasingly nervous about taking a flight (due to diminishing numbers of qualified pilots) and relying on any service that requires high levels of expertise. Professionals with good on the job experience are disappearing and I've seen evidence of this in many different professions and businesses.

Makes me think of Mad Magazine

Anyone else ever read that magazine? One of the things I remember was that on the cover it would put CHEAP next to whatever price they were selling it for. That's what I thought when I read about the price of Obamacare.

price: CHEAP!

"Regardless of the amount, the changing cover price of Mad has long been followed by the word "CHEAP!" Variants have occasionally appeared; following an increase from 25 to 30 cents, the successive issues claimed to be "CHEAP" (but X'd out), "CHEAP?", and "KINDA CHEAP." A rise to 40 cents sparked almost a year's worth of variations: "OUCH!" "OUTRAGEOUS!", "NO LAUGHING MATTER", "RELATIVELY CHEAP", "CHEAP (CONSIDERING)" and again, "CHEAP?" Other price increases were billed as "ALMOST CHEAP," "INFLATED!" and, for a cover featuring Bonnie and Clyde, "HIGHWAY ROBBERY."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recurring_features_in_Mad_(magazine)

Cool, that's a little less

Cool, that's a little less than what I pay now.

Wait, that does include rent, utilities, groceries, gas and haircuts, right? If not, I'm screwed.

I've Heard That The I.R.S. Actually Goes Door To Door

pick you up, turn you upside down and shake the coins out of your pockets...after they have liberated your wallet of green FED paper..Is that true?

Hey, that green stuff says Federal Reserve. It belongs to them, useless as it is...

lol..

I'll be sure to

put that green stuff in the trash can and save it for them. As soon as I finish wiping!

Doomed

no doubt about it DOOMED

Rand Paul is going to abolish

Rand Paul is going to abolish the IRS when he becomes president in 2016, so let them dream their little dream for now.

$20K per family? That's not smart.

Never be afraid to ask simple questions.

So......

you're going to wait for Government to fix it for you?

What else am I going to do?

What else am I going to do? Start shooting people?

Seriously, a change at the TOP is where America needs it most. The fish rots from the head down. What other remedy is there, besides violence?

Ron Paul said he wanted to eliminate the IRS, and his words fell upon mostly deaf ears in 2008 and 2012.

But...after the IRS kicks us in the balls with Obama's fancy new mandate and tax, Rand Paul's message is going to ring very loud and very clear in the 2016 election, if there is one....because the way things are being set up right now, it is looking like war is going to take the place of another presidential election.

I live in New York...for Christ's sake, my local radio talk show host is saying he's going down shooting if they come to confiscate his weapons after refusing to register them.

I hope and pray to God that Americans can wait this rough storm out for another 3 and a half plus years without pulling a single trigger.

May God please help us.

Never be afraid to ask simple questions.

The "top" is a self-preservation machine

The ONLY real change comes from the individual. I have hoped for years that someone would arrest "the top." I still wish someone would, but it ain't gonna happen. Those in a position to enforce the law are part of the powermongers who enjoy ruling by fear.
A practical matter: How would President Paul abolish the IRS? By executive order, or by an Amendment to the Constitution? Using an EO would not really look like liberty, it would look like a new king. If by Amendment, then we need to win 2/3 of the Congress and Senate or something like that, too. And here is the thing, if we got TRUTH instead of a new king, it would all go away. There is no need to do anything but admit the 14th was never ratified and is not law. POOF! IRS done, no fuss, no muss, no king.

This is the article that got my posting privileges revoked:
http://bklim.newsvine.com/_news/2013/05/12/18212165-dr-stan-...

You Didn't Learn Anything

From the last election did you? Insanity is doing something over and over the same way and expecting a different outcome. Or so said Einstein. ARE YOU NUTS?

skippy

respectfully disagree

with this part

Seriously, a change at the TOP is where America needs it most.

I think the US needs to change from the bottom-up more than anything else. The people in this country aren't going to change just because so and so happens to be in the White House (well, not most of 'em anyway...)

All this centralized, top-down stuff is part of the problem.

I'm not saying that any changes made from the "top" would be useless, just that they won't be long-lasting unless the bottom changes as well. That's why I believe changing the political scene on EVERY level is a good idea, but local is first and foremost from my POV.

/.02FRN

A signature used to be here!

What if you make less than that a year?

Confused why the IRS is even involved in this scheme (oh wait, because the government is a parasite and taxes are the IRS's thing). And just when you thought gun control would be the final straw (oh wait that's why gun control is necessary).

That's what I was wondering

We earn less than that a year, and obviously don't have money for insurance, or the fine for not getting it. We don't believe in getting free care, which we would most certainly qualify for, and most definately NOT get. So, what do we get? Jail time? I guess these days it is basically illegal to be poor.

wow..

**turning my pockets out empty** Time to brush up on Shamanism, faith healing, laying on of hands, Reiki, herbalism...

Garnet
Daughter of 1776 American Revolutionists

I found a priest who will do

I found a priest who will do healing for free.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tBqdKGiqnI

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The labor unions now realize that they were screwed also.

They supported Obamacare thinking that they were going to get a deal. Wrong. They were lied to fair and square, just like the rest of the Obama-bots.

Labor Unions Finally Read Obamacare Fine Print, Realize Costs Set To Spike, "Turn Sour" On Obama 1-31-13

It is a well-known fact that nobody in Congress ever reads, or even skims, any law, and especially not the fine print, it passes until long after it has been enacted into law. It appears the same is just as true for the biggest pillar of support for the Obama administration: America's labor unions, whose liberal vote every election is instrumental to preserving the outflow side of America's welfare state. As it turns out, it was the same labor unions who enthusiastically supported the primary accomplishment of the Obama administration in the past 4 years, Obamacare, only to realize, long after it has become reality that, surprise, their healthcare plan costs are about to go up. And, as the WSJ colorfully summarizes, they are now "turning sour."

From WSJ:

Union leaders say many of the law's requirements will drive up the costs for their health-care plans and make unionized workers less competitive. Among other things, the law eliminates the caps on medical benefits and prescription drugs used as cost-containment measures in many health-care plans. It also allows children to stay on their parents' plans until they turn 26.

So what are the Unions' demands to offset what they only now realize will push their overall costs higher? What else: Moar!

To offset that, the nation's largest labor groups want their lower-paid members to be able to get federal insurance subsidies while remaining on their plans. In the law, these subsidies were designed only for low-income workers without employer coverage as a way to help them buy private insurance.

Top officers at the International Brotherhood of Teamsters, the AFL-CIO and other large labor groups plan to keep pressing the Obama administration to expand the federal subsidies to these jointly run plans, warning that unionized employers may otherwise drop coverage.

But, but, they can't - that's the whole point, or didn't they read that part too? Doesn't matter - to them it is now unfair, nay "unacceptable":
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-01-31/labor-unions-finall...

No, no

It is the Affordable Healthcare Act. What a joke.

my ugly ass

be at the dr. office ever dang day and the stankin E R at night
hell might as well take up residence in room 1276