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Man With Concealed Carry Permit Arrested for Exposure of Gun. Video Goes Viral, Officer on Leave


A video has been seen more than 38,000 times in January. It shows Joel Smith of Citrus County getting stopped by Deputy Alan Cox.

17 seconds after getting out of the car, he is asked for his registration and insurance.

As he turns, something is slightly visible in his back pocket.

"Why do you carry a gun for?" asked Deputy Cox.

Ten seconds later, he is being held at gun point.

"Put your hands right up or I'll shoot you in the blanking back," said Cox.

Jan. 28th, 2013


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Georgia has a ...

Georgia has a GWL (Georgia weapons license) that allows of concealed carry and open carry. It is also a "must" issue state (if you are qualified) so getting one is not up to the local police chief if he is having a good day or a bad day. These are only common sense laws that should be used by every state.


I like how the driver

remained calm and had a general "Are you F***ing serious?" look on his face. Calmly complied and made the cop look like the only dangerous person on the scene.

"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience; we are spiritual beings having a human experience"—Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

Take his effing badge!


"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy." -- James Madison

In Tennessee

If you have a carry conceal permit.It says so on your tennessee drivers licenses.The police will ask if you have it on you if you are stopped.

Money talks and dogs bark

Can you imagine...

..this guy in Afghanistan? LOL


privatize everything

including police protection services

“The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants.” — Albert Camus

Fire that cop and take his 2nd amendment right away.

Charge him with false arrest, assault for touching that citizen, arrest and charge him the same way that citizen would have been if he had chosen to defend himself against an abusive criminal cop.

Any cop that acted as backup is equally as guilty.

Fire them and take away their badges and guns.

Put them in jail for the same crime and duration that they sought against their victim.


Anyone who also says "Why do

Anyone who also says "Why do you carry a gun for?" should not be a cop.

Please come join my forum if you're not a trendy and agree with my points of view.

this is why we need private police

that are accountable to their customers and that have to worry about competitors.

“The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants.” — Albert Camus

Yes, Indeed.

It's about damn time.

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"The State is a gang of thieves writ large." - Murray Rothbard

Private police

An idea whose time is way past due. Cops are the states enforcers. They are the real robbers in our society.

There was only one criminal

There was only one criminal there and it was the guy that was stomping on a citizens rights. I hope this cop learns his lesson and if he isn't fired then he stops harassing citizens. Too bad this guy will probably have to sue to get any justice from this abuse of his rights.

I just find it quite comical

I just find it quite comical how your whole defense here on a libertarian-leaning website is derived by quoting unjust laws. Laws which we don't hold to have any legal weight around here, particularly when discussing the treatment of people by abusive authority.


I never said I agreed with

I never said I agreed with how he was treated.

Do you live in Florida? I have. They are very tyrannical and have stupid taxes.

I chose to leave that state for Indiana...must better here.

I havent said anything "anti-liberty" here.

The man broke the first and most important rule of concealed carry: always inform the officer when at your earliest possible time. All of it wouldve been avoided. You can act all pro-liberty but when it is your time to stand up for your rights, you better have a legal leg to stand on, he didnt.

the only agreements ive heard on this subject so far are: Im a sovereign free man and no laws apply to me, the government is trying to take away my 2nd amendment. Those things dont apply to this scene.

A.)He had expired tags, you must have tags to drive in that state. If you do not, you must find other means of transportation.
B.)He was legally carrying, but didnt follow the rules.
C.)Never get out of the vehicle unless you are ordered to.
D.)Never turn your back and always keep your hands in plain sight.

All he had to do was stay in the vehicle with the windows cracked.
Say: "Officer, I have a concealed carry permit and I am armed. I do not consent to any searches, seizures, or conversation without an attorney present. I invoke all rights afforded to me by the Constitution and the Bill of Rights." Then shut up.

Invalid rules.

A. Those stupid rules on cars really only apply to commerce.
B. There are no rules placed on our 2nd Amendment. You can either have any weapon you want and do anything you want with it, or you can't have the weapon at all.
C. & D. Cops are not authority. A lawful citizen should not comply with such stupid bossy demands.

Rights don't exist as soon as you assert them, they just exist. You don't have to shut up. Get in their faces.

A person who goes against the new flow is looked at as delusional. No, the people who go with the flow are delusional. Petty rules have their place and it's on the property of others (at work). Petty rules have no public place in functioning society, and taxation and petty rules do not bring us technology, peace, and this "wonderful" civilization we have today.

Please come join my forum if you're not a trendy and agree with my points of view.

Try all of that and see what

Try all of that and see what happens. Free man.

It doesn't matter what

It doesn't matter what happens to my physical body. No punishment on earth by these elite scum will ever get me to go along with them and therefore get my soul.

"Go along to get along" is a pathetic attitude and so are the churches preaching that all laws and rules should be followed. Well what about if the elite literally come out and want to make it law to have 666 stamped on everyone's forehead? Would unlawfully resisting the beast be a sin? Where is the line? The line is moving slowly. People go along with it because they don't stand back from the 4th dimension and see the line moving. My line is right and wrong. The 10 commandments, the Constitution, and the most important, most universal, and most non-religious, the golden rule.

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Why is it that

"an investigation was began SINCE the video went viral" (my emphasis)

Why is it that these things have to go viral before any redress on the behalf of the victim is acted upon?

wow you people are so quick

wow you people are so quick to jump whenever a pin drops.

The man made 3 mistakes:

1.)He failed to notify the officer that he had a concealed carry permit and that he was armed.
2.)Unless he was ordered out of the vehicle, he shouldnt have exited it....the gun wouldnt have been exposed.
3.)He continually reached behind his back and acted like he was hiding something.

I am not a cop.

I do not agree with the language used or the arrest.

But that man is lucky to be in a cage and not in a box.

"that man is lucky to be in a

"that man is lucky to be in a cage and not a box"....??? That man's luck was non-existent the moment he was pulled over. I can't believe you said that .... as if he invited his own death warrant but was luckily allowed to live. OMG We are a doomed people if this is the mentality that prevails.

what I mean is, that guy is

what I mean is, that guy is lucky that he didnt have a cop that was an even worse hot-head

1) He's not legally required

1) He's not legally required to notify the officer
2) It's not illegal to exit the car, plus the cop seemed cool with it
3) He was obviously reaching for his wallet

I wish we had the rest of the

I wish we had the rest of the video.


Florida is a notify state.

If you ever go through the concealed course, which this guy in Florida had to do, they tell you to remain in your vehicle unless ordered to exit and notify.

He reaches several times for the wallet, then turns his back with his hands hidden. Im sad to say, but this mightve been different if he was of a different race.

Your link states

Your link states "informing law enforcement is required upon demand", so I stand by my original statement. He wasn't legally required to notify the officer.

Once the officer asked him ("upon demand"), he informed the officer that he was carrying. So I don't see where he broke any laws.

The reason he got out of the car is because he has

a bad habit to carry his wallet in his rear right pocket. May be he likes his dollars warm and misty.

Why should a free man have to

Why should a free man have to tell a cop that he has a gun?

I agree that he shouldn't have got out of the vehicle, but a free man has a right to if he wants.

So what if he is reaching behind his back? Looks to me that is where he keeps his wallet.

Here are the mistakes I see:

Since a free man should not have to register his possessions with a government, he should not have been pulled over for "expired tags" on his vehicle, as the officer states is the reason for pulling him over. Failing to register a vehicle is not an act that creates a victim or violates someone else's rights, therefore it should not be against the law.

The officer should not have freaked out about a conceal carry weapon. This shows a lack of proper training. At best, he should have ASKED the motorist if he would be willing to put his gun away for the duration of the traffic stop. Hopefully, the motorist would oblige him, though he shouldn't be required to do so.


no one is a "free man". We

no one is a "free man". We live in a society of laws. No matter where you go, there is a law about something. Dont start with the sovereign bs. Drive down the street without tags, get pulled over, take it to court and show the video of the judge laughing at you.

you never, ever touch your gun around a cop. ever.

the guy put himself in the situation by not following what everyone that goes through a concealed carry course learns.

The Law in Florida is the English common law and the

Law in the States of Florida is the Statute Law.

Is Florida a state of the United States of America or a State of the United States if you know law so well, can you answer this Question?

If Florida is a state of the first and perpetual union then English Common Law is the Law if the State of Florida is only a State of the United States then Statute Law prevail.

Hint there are 50 states of the United States of America and 56 States of the United States.

can you please help me

can you please help me decipher whatever it is you are trying to say?