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Claim: RonPaul.com asking $250,000 for domain, down from $800,000

Hey, Ron, Want Your Own Name?
Posted by Lew Rockwell

The other day, the nice young couple who registered LibertyPaul.com offered to give it to Ron. On the other hand, those who registered RonPaul.com are no longer asking more than $800,000. They've cut their price to $250,000. For his own name.

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"we"???

I promise you, those who own the name don't care what "we" want.

WE aren't doing a damn thing for them, and they are not using the domaine name but to tell Ron, "Your campaign SUCKED and we did what they didn't do." Ron Paul paid his campaign, but not those who WORKED SMARTER than his campaign.

They owe Ron Paul or "we" NOTHING.

You can't BUY friendships, and who the hell wants MOOCHERS for friends anyways?

they should ask for

whatever Jesse Benton made in salary IMHO. If they didn't grab up that domain it would have been a porno site guaranteed. I am sure that would not have helped his election campaign.

I made a simular suggestion below

It's an option I'm open to.

Don't you find it a bit distasteful

that the reason this domain is worth so much is because of Ron Paul the man, not anything these people have done? These people claim to be volunteers for the cause, but now they are trying to cash in at RP's expense.

The only thing I find distasteful

Is everyone here giving these people such a hard time for trying to make money off of this. They are doing NOTHING wrong.

NO

I'm a capitalist and what I find distasteful is the idea Ron Paul is ENTITLED.. he's not.

What RP should do is negotiate.. he may find these people reinvest the money on him.

Ron Paul should not be rewarded for not valuing his own name when so many give him credit of making the net the new MSM political tool.

He's not "entitled". Just

He's not "entitled". Just like the owners of the domain are not "entitled" to be appreciated or frequented by the liberty community.

You claim to be a capitalist. Yet when the entire thing that makes capitalism work -- the ONE thing that makes it all come together -- actually occurs, you'll have none of it. People are allowed to boycott, people are allowed to disdain. The company shouldn't be "forced" to give up the domain by law. They should simply realize that it's a stupid business move not to, because we will never visit their site again otherwise.

Freedom in our lifetime! - fiol.us

It's stupid to give it away

Seems to me Ron Paul is dividing the so called Liberty Movement by holding out making an offer for something HE WANTS.

So people boycott it.. I'm with Rand Paul now.

Thanks Ron Paul.. GOOD LUCK being a ROCK STAR. WELCOME TO THE REAL WORLD OUTSIDE GOVERNMENT PERKS.

You just went full troll mode

You just went full troll mode on me.

Freedom in our lifetime! - fiol.us

This is not

only about Ron Paul. It's about us.

Do you think Ron Paul does everything he does only for himself? He doesn't. He does it because of us.

All the attention, speeches, etc. that go to Ron Paul advance the cause of liberty.

That's how the people that registered RonPaul.com got involved, just like the rest of us. It so happens they are of the tech/web savvy type. Ron Paul is not. It's not that he doesn't value his dot com name. It's that he didn't know to.

So how about you

create a chip in so we can all buy it for him? MN can't even get enough to cover the cost of DP..

You create the web site and I'll chip in $20.00

He had staff that knew how to create a ronpaul.com. Many here complain about Benton, Tate, Wead, etc.. maybe Ron should sue his staff for incompetence and lack of foresite, $250K?

you fail to recognize

how HUGE them saving that domain from enemy hands was. Many people get paid in political campaigns and they deserve to be as well.

I understand

the value in them grabbing RonPaul.com.

Again, I'm NOT against them claiming their is value to them grabbing that domain name, and also wanting to cash in on it.

The problem I have is them reneging. If they had said up front, hey we are web savvy supporters that had the foresight to know to grab the name and although we are supporters we want to make something off it too. Our request is X amount.

Then I would respect that. What I have a problem with is them going back on their word saying they would hand the name over once contacted.

hand it over

doesn't necessarily mean for free.

When I first saw their statement it had already been changed to have a cordial message for....and I had commented on the original thread as well. So, I never saw the original statement that you are saying was changed.

Anyway, it is highly likely that more than one person is involved in RonPaul.com (even if only a spouse) and one person making a statement for others might have been in error. Until I know more details on that, I will give them the benefit of the doubt. Besides, I am sure they can negotiate to something reasonable.

Well

if Ron Paul or his team contacted them early on they should know of any change in the terms of the deal, and be able to proceed accordingly.

Remember this too, though, that apparently the original asking price was $800,000. $800,000! That doesn't sound like a supporter. That sounds like extortion.

Not to me

Seems to me they KNOW what it's worth.

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This is not
Submitted by rpcongress on Fri, 02/01/2013 - 13:34. Permalink

only about Ron Paul. It's about us.

Do you think Ron Paul does everything he does only for himself? He doesn't. He does it because of us.

All the attention, speeches, etc. that go to Ron Paul advance the cause of liberty.

That's how the people that registered RonPaul.com got involved, just like the rest of us. It so happens they are of the tech/web savvy type. Ron Paul is not. It's not that he doesn't value his dot com name. It's that he didn't know to.

This ^^^

No

RonPaul.com DIDN'T say so (ask for money) up front. They specifically said they would hand the name(s) over. There is a thread here with people praising them for that.

What happened is now that Ron Paul or his people must have contacted them, and they see all the hoopla over that particular name they are trying to cash in. To be clear I have absolutely no problem with that. I support the free market.

What I have a problem with is them going back on their word. A free market also means the right NOT to buy.

Can you link me ?

I never saw them say they would give it away free.

The original

Daily Paul thread is here:

http://www.dailypaul.com/269754/statement-regarding-ownershi...

If you look at that page you will see I'm the very first person to comment. Someone posted that on RonPaul.com a statement was put up regarding that domain name and Ron Paul mentioning not having it on Alex Jones. In that statement the people with control over the site said they specifically registered the names because they didn't want them to fall into enemy hands when registration lapsed, and they would hand them over if Ron Paul or someone credibly identified as representing him would contact them. I then replied saying "that means all they have to do is ask them for it!".

But they have since changed the wording on that page. It no longer says anything about handing the names over, and instead says they've prepared a response for someone that contacts them.

I read it, Thank you for the link WITH explaination

and I did not read anything that said it would be his for gratis.

That's so insulting Reminds me of a Tom Woods rant on moochers:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIVEdMyv2Tg

What?

I thought they were going to donate it to him.

EDIT: Here are their own words...

"As we haven’t heard from Ron Paul or his staff for several years we do not know if there is any tangible interest in utilizing RonPaul.com for Ron Paul’s new projects. We have prepared a cordial message for Ron Paul that we will gladly forward to him or to any person who credibly identifies himself as part of his current staff."

http://www.ronpaul.com/2013-01-11/statement-regarding-ronpau...

Looks like they changed the wording... I specifically remember them saying they got the name(s) so they wouldn't fall into enemy hands and were willing to give them over.

Sounds like they've heard from the RP people now

And that is the price.

Yeah

Sounds like a case of bait and switch... or at least reneging.

Ron Paul should shaft them. Give them a polite thanks for nothing and go with RonPaulsHomePage.com as originally planned. That will work just as well. Once he tells people where to go that's what will become popular.

Welcome ...

... to the free market.

Life is a sexually transmitted disease with a 100% fatality rate.
Don't Give me Liberty, I'll get up and get it myself!

Yup, "volunuteer" for the man

and then try to cash in.