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What is G.O.D.?

G.O.D.- Government Ordained Deity.

There is no "god" that will send you to hell, but there IS a government that wants you to behave when it's not around ....which is partly why the government promotes religion.

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human eyesight is NOT a product of random chance...

...based on the idea that a one cell thing in a puddle somewhere said: "I think.I'll be two" millions or billions ot years ago.

Creation and conscience revelation proves that God exists; and God.instituted marriage(government in family), civil government because sinful mankind needs rules in order to function in a way that can make prosperity, justice, and peace possible; and He instituted the church, that Christ heads, and there is a hierarchy and structure for SELF government there as well.

Feel free to hate organized religion, hypocritical religion, war-mongering propagandists in religious garb; we here all HATE them too!

But, to deny God exists, because of these bad examples for the whole of Christendom?; that's simply foolish, even insane....without God, there would be no American Republic, and, there will be America no more without Him!


Wake up America...THINK!!!

The "deity" of evolution theory is STUPID....and this is the one "god" that should be
THROWN OUT of our public schools, no longer tax-supported, and rejected!

Oh, you're not going to like this.

Spent a career in ophthalmology, don't talk eyes without expecting my 2 cents worth...
Do you know what thing in Creation is MOST like an eye?
A plant. Eyesight is very similar to photosynthesis.
Evol....oooooo.... I knew you would not like this, but I find it fascinating how the Creator works to evolve the Creation.

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

so, these are all LIES...I have fallen for...

...and just brainwashing religious propaganda; "God created Adam, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life."

This is just the stupid stuff our founders and John Locke believed(and Christians like me today), just so they could unlock us from our chains that Great Britain put on us, and lock us up in their chains???

Really?? There is no God higher than Caesar?

I'm always looking for an answer to this sliver of evolution theory: that I once used to run an evolutionist out of a forum because he started calling me derogatory names. (He was a Christian turned atheist when his Mom died of cancer, despite the prayers of so many he angrily said and argued with me incessantly by posting picture after picture of fossil "evidence")

#1) Fossils(BONES ONLY) of a fish were found in a rock layer called Devonian, they named it Eusthenopteron and estimated/printed in a Steven Jay Gould book that this particular lobe-finned fish lived 385 million years ago(even though lobe-finned fishes have been found to exist today);

#2) Fossils(BONES ONLY) of something they named Tiktaalik was recently found in that same rock layer called Devonian, and they estimated/printed in some report that it lived 375 million years ago, and that it is believed to have EVOLVED from the Eusthenopteron over 10 million years;

#3) Fossils(BONES ONLY) of something they named Ichthyostega (which still seem to exist TODAY as a “mudskipper” as seen in some National Geographic video as EVIDENCE of EVOLUTION) was found in the same rock layer called Devonian, and they estimated it lived 365 million years ago and it EVOLVED from the Tiktaalik.

I have seen no no evidence for radiometric dating of the Devonain rocks; that "housed" the 385 million year old lobe finned fish in Steven Jay Gould's book that pictures it turning into a "mudskipper" 20 million years later just BECAUSE another fossil was found in a Devonian rock layer that likewise cannot be proved to be dated at 365 million years old?

They use the fossils to date the rocks, and the rocks to date the fossils most of the time - and print the fairy tale about evolution in the textbooks with tax dollars!

Secondly; I enjoyed Kent Hovind once bringing this up: HOW human speech evolved from grunts and groans of apes?

This should be EASY for evolutionists - only 5-11 million years ago, something called Broca's Convolusion supposedly manifested itself as a beneficial mutation in humans?, who could never speak or communicate ideas/concepts between each other before that.

Here: watch him explain it...(if evolution is TRUE, there are as many scientific questions to be asked - just like if the government's 9/11 official story is to be believed, there are MANY scientific questions to be asked!)

Broca's convolution

I am to believe the "government-funded academia story" that Quadrupeds became Whales, blah blah blah, monkeys showed up, blah blah blah, pretty intelligent humans show up from apes...blah blah blah....a God with moral absolutes, we won't tolerate THAT religious theory without scientific proof...

Sorry; I know "they" simply WILL NOT be persuaded...

Luke 16:19 There was a certain rich man, which was clothed in purple and fine linen, and fared sumptuously every day:
Luke 16:20 And there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, which was laid at his gate, full of sores,
Luke 16:21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.
Luke 16:22 And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried;
Luke 16:23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
Luke 16:24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
Luke 16:25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.
Luke 16:26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.
Luke 16:27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:
Luke 16:28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.
Luke 16:29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.
Luke 16:30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.
Luke 16:31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.


It is possible. Maybe you should look into it.
When I read Genesis, I see a description of evolution. In my mind, there is no conflict. The Creator uses evolution as a tool for creating. Sorry that makes you apoplectic.

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

I really don't see a conflict with evolution and god either

there can still be a "god" that created evolution, etc...

Stick to the Bible, find meaning there not science.

Leave Hovind and Gould peddle their nonsense to the suckers.

Did God leave us a fossil record to test our faith. He gave us great curiosity then tricked us? That no a very healthy idea of good.

Maybe the scientists got it wrong. if true the God will stand by the truth. It's promised.

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It is so blatantly

obvious to me that the point of this post and posts similar to these is to get people of faith all riled up and get the believers and non-believers arguing with each other...simply put, to create division. Anyone who begins their argument with a definitive statement about something which they could not possibly have any proof of (i.e. "there is no "god") is looking to do nothing more than start trouble. Please stop it. It really is so transparent, annoying and unproductive, (unless of course you think it is productive to get people fighting amongst themselves).

I share this general belief


which is now being backed up by quantum science as well. See, we can ALL get along.

"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience; we are spiritual beings having a human experience"—Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

God is Truth, Truth is God..

The absence of truth is darkness and dispair, resentment, and with it hell..

The precence of truth is the light of reality inside you. It brings happiness and joy, love, wealth and liberty.

Seek the joy of happiness by yearning for the truth..

David prayed in this way and wrote of his experince in a

"Lie down upon your bed,(close your eyes and look through the middle of your forehead) commune with your heart, be still (still your mind = meditate = prayer) and know that I am God"

Calm yourself so that you can see clearly = objective state..

This is the ancient form of prayer that was lost / supresssed but re -discovered in this century for the remnant..

It's that simple

Jesus said, "Don't pray in front of others like the hyporcites, the Pharisees. They have already received their reward from the world (heathen) Pray in secret so that your father in heaven will know that you are sincere and that you seek his love, not the love from the world..

Wait on the Lord = Be patient! Wait to be saved! For the Lord knoweth what you want (need) before you ask...

The "Our Father is the spititual expression of the inner prayer.

Give us this day our daily bread (light) and forgive us our tresspasser (sinners) as we wish to forgive thos that tresspass (sin against us) and led us away from temptation (God never leads you toward temptation)...There is no dogma to prayer, since prayer is truly a communion with God that is unspoken..

In the beginning before language entered into being, God spoke to Adam and Eve intuitively (Before the fall) Language came into being after the fall when Adam disobeyed God and listened to the spoken work from the woman through the tempter (Devil)

Remember, of yourself you can do nothing! You either will yourself to be good which is impossible. It is the light that is in everyone that renews your mind from within. (That is what is meant by becoming born again..) You become in time, a new creature, in Christ) Renewed by the spirit, not of your own self..

Got it?


Reference: http://www.fhu.com/books/mind_well/HowYourMind.pdf

Who is Roy Masters?

Roy Masters Demonstrates Meditation to Lady Caller (Video)

Learning how to pray or meditate from a first time caller

Religion and Spirituality by Roy Masters (Part 1)

Sean Hannity Interviews Roy Masters

The Flying Spagetti Monster is Truth.

Truth is the Flying Spagetti Monster.

Got it?


So you reject truth.

Or is this a denial of truth in a lie form.

Or an attempt at humor.

Don't quit your day job.

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I would say...

...God is the shorthand way of stating the idea that things like Person, Intelligence, Love are fundamental reality -- MORE fundamental than the physical universe.

The idea of 'no God' is shorthand for stating the physical universe (or some quantum mechanical system from which it arises) is fundamental reality and that things like person, intelligence, love are ultimately just illusions from reactions within that physical system.

The former idea of God seems to line up more with the Platonic vision of the 'forms', and I hold to that line of thinking/belief.

Government can manipulate both the idea of 'God' and the idea of 'no God' for various effects; this says nothing about which idea is ultimately true. You'll find blood on the hands of authoritarian atheists and authoritarian theists alike.

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you are always sincere with your writings her on the DP! Thank you for never cutting people down and being negative. Thx again

James Madison


...for the kind words and encouragement! Although, I'm afraid the 'never' wouldn't be quite accurate. :) Just ask my wife ... lol. It's hard sometimes not to let passion on certain topics cross the line into pride or an overly-zealous presentation when a calmer tone is more appropriate.

I fail a lot, but hope to live up to my screenname...Micah 6:8 "He has shown thee, O man, what is good; and what does the Lord require of thee but to do justice, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God."

I think that's one of the things that drew me to Dr. Paul...he has that very spirit about him: doing justice ('End the Fed', protecting inalienable rights), loving mercy (the very essence of Liberty and sensible foreign policy...the Golden Rule, etc.), and walking humbly. You can really sense the light of Christ being reflected from him, not because he wears it so explicitly on his sleeves, but because it shines from within his demeanor and policies.

Some mainline conservative somewhere is probably reading this and rolling their eyes and thinking I'm worshipping Dr. Paul. Nah..he isn't perfect either. We're all imperfect vessels and mirrors...for now.

Thanks, I enjoyed reading what you wrote

You are absolutely right that authoritarian regimes religious or otherwise have "blood on their hands". Regimes have different modes of control...the one we're dealing now with uses/used religion to control us.

Everyone's idea of "god" is a little different. I'm not speaking of "god" as an "infinite energy" or what's behind the unknown things that happen...I'm speaking more about the "god" that will "strike you down" for not believing, send you to "hell", etc

I like the idea that "god is love" and am fine with that. Peddling "god" or religion through fear...is no better than what our gov't does, and serves the elites in the end.



I agree.


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Well said.

Well said.

"If Jesus was God, why did He say 'No one is good but God?

Question: "If Jesus was God, why did He say 'No one is good but God' ?"

Answer: It is often claimed by those who reject the deity of Christ that in Mark 10:17-22 Jesus denies His divinity by rejecting the notion that He is good. It reads as follows:

“As Jesus started on his way, a man ran up to him and fell on his knees before him. ‘Good teacher,’ he asked, ‘what must I do to inherit eternal life?’ ‘Why do you call me good?’ Jesus answered. ‘No one is good – except God alone. You know the commandments: Do not murder, do not commit adultery, do not steal, do not give false testimony, do not defraud, honor your father and mother.’ ‘Teacher,’ he declared, ‘all these I have kept since I was a boy.’ Jesus looked at him and loved him. ‘One thing you lack,’ he said. ‘Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.’ At this, the man’s face fell. He went away sad, because he had great wealth.”

Answer: Jesus was just testing the man. He really never wanted the man to give up his wealth, but he wanting to find out if money and wealth were more importnt than loyalty and love for the truth.

The center of our life should be to live by the truth. You will earn the respect by most that you treat fairly.

This was said because Jesus had not proven himself yet.

He had yet to fulfill the scriptures prophesying the coming of the Son of God.

To claim the godhead would require the Young Jewish Man reject the Second Commandment of Moses.

It's the time travel paradox. What people say today af the man that proved himself as a truth teller.

Muslim tradition refers to Jesus as the Light of God.

Whether one calls him Congressman Paul, Dr. Paul or Ron Paul most here seem to agree that its the message of liberty that is timeless and unconditioned.

What's in a name?

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God is a "Person"

Even The Devil thinks that he does God a favor.

As for atheist who think that there is nothing after the grave, for you, you are correct.

Now, for the atheist, there is nothing after the grave, no reward.
The Devil claims the reward that should have been yours and laughs. So sad, he says. You have to be his slave for being so foolish. For how long: time span unknown.

There are many gods and many lords.

We are all tempted to eat the Apple and become like gods, judging good and evil.

The correct translation, "God is Spirit". Not one god amongst many.

There is No God but God. All the gods, lords and devils have power only by the grace of God and the freedom they've been given. Whether they can or will acknowledge it or not.

Some say the Devil loved God too much and would not serve man.

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He's a person? Oh Great! I'd LOVE to meet him! oops I mean "Him"

The point of the thread is/was to make people think.

To me it's quite ironic that there are so many "anti-government", pro-religious people on here that don't know the history of or don't see the connections between church and state.

The government WANTS religious people!

They don't want well-informed thinkers.

They want people to believe things based on "faith"!

They want people to let the elites get away with what they want.

They want people to think that "god will take care of it in the end".

And for the record, I'm agnostic.

I don't pretend to speak for "god" or his buddy "the devil" or claim to know why we are here and if there's a power that created everything, etc, etc...

It seems you are unaware of history

And simply draw connections between church (Christianity) and state because it is convenient to do so.

Christianity began from humble beginnings of isolation and persecution. Over hundreds of years and millions of conversions did Christianity become the state religion of Rome. It's origins did not start because of the state, it started in spite of the state (go read of the persecutions from men like Diocletian). Christians were the thinking individuals of the time who questioned the deity of Caesar and rejected serving him and they paid a costly price.

So what i'd suggest to you is not to blame Christianity for how the state lached onto it and did the most egregious things under the guise of "Christianity". That's the lazy way out/scape goat of coming to terms with the morality of Christ and what He taught.

wow are you kidding?? What history do you know of that

doesn't come from your bible or church figures?

You think they will tell you the truth??

The Roman Empire and Vatican are at the root or Christianity not Jesus or any humble, persecuted beginning.

The information is out there...unless you are too afraid of "hell" lol

Wrong, Rome and the Vatican

Wrong, Rome and the Vatican are at the root of Catholicism, HUGE difference. Catholicism is NOT Christianity, far from it in fact.

Christianity never would have survived without the Vatican

The Vatican and Roman empire are at the very root of Christianity.

Sorry, but it's history.

Misrepresenting who I am

You have already been trained, or have trained yourself, to reject thoughts concerning spiritual matters as being religious. It's obvious that you are being "atheistic" regardless what title you claim that you are sitting under.

"There is no "god", "the idea of "god"." + "that "god will take care of it", "I don't pretend to speak for "god""

What I wrote was\is merely a reverse incantation of the atheism that you are "promoting", whether it be called "agnostic" or not. You're playing "a spiritual game", I'm playin' along.

There does seem to be group who works for the government here

You working for the government? "Reconstituter001"?

edit: "attack of the communist"

Use to be a time when the communist were known to be the atheist (U.S.S.R.). I guess that the belief system has spread out where it isn't so noticeable. The approach is more subtle. More of it.

Not to be unfair: "atheist" can be working with the government unawares, of course, not deliberate but out of ignorance.
Re-constituter-001 - you knew that this would cause a fuss when you thunk-it-up, why not try to be more honest if the intent is up-'n-up? Or, you just have shabby writing\communicating skills?

you're cracking me up lol

I'm not a gov't agent dude lol