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What is G.O.D.?

G.O.D.- Government Ordained Deity.

There is no "god" that will send you to hell, but there IS a government that wants you to behave when it's not around ....which is partly why the government promotes religion.

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Anything ring a bell here? And, on the page, "Re-constituter-001"?


The Communist Takeover Of America - 45 Declared Goals
From Greg Swank 12-4-2

? 27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."

? 28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."

Rense has 0% credibility. And now, so do you.

Thanks for playing.

"Laugh", your over-simplistic response says a lot.

Try again?

Or, better?
"the 45 declared goals of communist take-over (1963)"

Playin' but not laughin'? That's not right : - (


Laughter is good.

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"The government WANTS

religious people!"...If that were true, why then are they systematically removing God, Bibles and any religious instruction from the schools and all public places? If your statement is true, wouldn't they be passing out Bibles at school instead and making sure that all the children are well versed in it? (and please don't state the non-constitutional seperation of church and state...because even if religious instruction in schools was unconstitutional (which it is not), since when lately do they care about that!)

They don't. Listen to a

They don't. Listen to a republican latley? DemocRATS appeal to those who worship the state. RepubliCONS represent those who worship the bible. Both heads of the serpant appeal to a differant class of idiot collectivists. Each head of the serpant whispers into their faithful's ears that the other head is trying to put a stop to their choosen opiate.

The left says: The evil right wants to abolish the needed state and usher in an age where greedy capitalists will enslave the poor and anarchy will ensue. Because obviously rich people feel they can get richer by making everyone too poor to buy their stuff. And people not buying their stuff can in no way stop a large company.

The right says: The evil left wants to abolish the holy bible and usher in an age where Satan will reign and start letting gay people get married, which of course means the world will explode. Afterall marriage is really sacrid. Thats probably why one of the most popular gameshows on TV is about a bunch of dumb sluts competing to see who can open their legs for money....er.... enter holy matramony with the rich guy at the top. We wouldn't want satan's evil minions (gay people) to ruin all that sacridness.

The left right paradime keeps the sheep fighting back and forth as the fence is pushed back and forth into each's perspective pasture.

No matter the outcome of this fake wrestling match, the winner are the elites who use both forms of collectivism to keep their sheep bleating at each other instead of at their slave masters.

This gun control farse will swing the favor back to the right, giving them an illusion that they've scored a victory, and a chance to elect enough Bush/Romney to continue sodomising our Republic into the future.

This is where we who understand terrestrial reality, dispite some of our opiates, must fight against the left right paradime, and get a libertarian leaning republican elected.

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Ron Paul believes in

And lives a life based on the teaching in the Bible...is he a "collectivist idiot" too?

Presence would be better.

One who is aware of their own presence can be aware of others present

The idea of presence is One.

If one is looking in all the wrong places they may never discover the presence that inspires all present.

Instead of complicated arguments, The word symbol "God" is as good a shorthand as any. It's a name, a symbol.

If one does not find God in their heart then it's not real to them.

Free includes debt-free!

Actually, Im a Jewmormishtian

Actually, Im a Jewmormishtian Witness, and I was just on the phone with HIM today, and he said pretty much that everything you just said was all BS. Ive got a direct line since my faith is the one true faith. You heritics better shape up, because ive got it on direct authority that the Flying Spagetti Monster is about to go loose on your mis-believing butts. Those of the "true" flock will be fine, but the rest of you are B.B.Q. I feel such overwhemling sorrow for you, but its your fault. The proof is overwhemling and everywhere all the time... infact im trying to shoo some of it out of my face right now cause its too overwhelming. You've choosen to believe in your false god-idol, and Sadam Hussen is going to be stretching you on the flaming rack for all of eternity with pain-enhancing drugs because its what you want. We tried to stop you from strapping yourself to the rack and telling Sadam to go ahead... but you in your pride and evil wouldn't listen. If only you could see how much the Flying Spagetti Monster loves you.

This sounds like..

you were reared up by episodes of SouthPark

Guilty. I love those two.

Guilty. I love those two.

Government is not God!

“Government is not reason, it is not eloquence — it is force! Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. Never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action.”

Fire like that stuff covering

Fire like that stuff covering hell?

Who knows what that...

...'fire' is really like. Only one way to find out.

I don't believe the 'fire' is the end of the story for anyone, though.

Yes there is GOD.

You just can't see Him through all the false teaching and self serving doctrines that man devises to satisfy his earthly desires. Man is allowed free speech by GOD to either edify through His word or to destroy through our own desires. Why do you find it surprising that men try to make themselves Gods to acquire their fleshly desires?
Why is it you conclude that just because men try to emulate the power of GOD that it negates GODs existence?

You are throwing out the baby with the bathwater so to speak.

HA! That statement really

HA! That statement really sums it up doesn't it?

"Man is allowed free speech by GOD to either edify through His word or to destroy through our own desires."

You are GIVEN free speech in order to do ONE thing with it or else suffer your destruction.

Because you lot are unwilling to use a dictionary, ive done it for you in 1 second on Google. Here's the wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn definition:

Coercion: the act of compelling by force of authority.

Totally out of context

You have a way of twisting words don't you. The truth is edifying and lies destroy which should be simple to comprehend for anyone with a brain. You have taken my words and applied them to a different subject. You are talking about salvation and I was talking about false gods.

You don't own salvation and you don't want to do what is necessary to obtain salvation. If you freely reject the truth then why should you receive the salvation that the truth offers. So without salvation then you will die and that will be the end of you or your destruction as you call it. You have not been coerced one bit. Show me where you are being forced to accept salvation and show me how you should receive something you reject. Death is natural but salvation and eternal life is from GOD.

Your thinking is akin to someone who doesn't believe in working but still wants to get paid. You are obviously a socialist at heart. You also need to learn how to stick to the subject matter of a conversation.

The truth (tm). Ah. How

The truth (tm). Ah.

How about you admit you have no idea what happens when you die? Neither you, nor anyone you know has ever been dead and buried before and is now alive to tell you about it. All you have is words from a poorly written collection of fables assembed by VOTE at a council put on by a ruthless Emperor. These jerkoffs couldn't even decide if Jesus was a god or not without a vote, and they almost lost. For 5 hundred years after the council of Niccea, they couldn't even decide if men were born evil or not and were in constant battle over the issue.

These things that you "know" as "Truth" were VOTED on. Would you trust a car whose engineers voted on a problem they disagreed on how to fix? Would you trust your life to technology in which a panel VOTED on wether or not it was safe? Im sorry but more people deciding something is true as opposed to deciding its not true without any evidence one way or the other is not truth. Its ridiculous. And it makes those who believe it without a high amount of healthy doubt very naive.

You don't know dick about whats going to happen when you take your dirt nap any more than anyone else. You believe nonsense because you have a faith-based mind that makes you suspetable myths.

Please refrain from raping the word "truth." Your odds of knowing it are no better than anyone else's.

You can't stick to a subject

or answer simple questions. All you can do is attack that which you don't know like a scared little child. That is a sign of a weak mind. Attacking the truth doesn't make the truth any less valid just like your attacks on GOD whom you hate does not make Him any less real. You will die and see corruption because you are too arrogant to accept your salvation.

I'm glad that GOD doesn't let just anyone into His Kingdom. The reason is obvious. You reap what you sow.

So if you...

...accept for a second the premise that God is indeed the definition of true Love, true goodness, true joy, true peace, etc., how could you expect that using freedom to depart from such true Love, goodness, etc. would result in an equally loving, good, joyful, peaceful situation?

Sure, people can choose to hang out in the 'outer darkness' if they really want to; but I don't think it will be that long for any soul to cry out for the return to Love, goodness, etc. When the defiant fist is finally lowered, and the clutching and grasping for selfish desires ceases, I believe all will return from that outer darkness, through the purifying fire, back to the unquenchable Love they were created for.

Long as you don't believe in

Long as you don't believe in hell, have at it. You'll get no argument from me.

Though try sticking your face on a hot burner and see how "pure" it feels.

Purifying fire. Ha... deranged and sadistic catholic totalitarians loved to say shit like that. Come Joan of Arc, let us purify your body with fire so you can be with god.

Can you maybe see why most of us out here view religeous people as completely fucking nuts? You don't purify anyone with fire. You torture and kill them with fire... and as an added bonus, scare the living shit out of the mindless serfs who will commence kissing the hem of your fancy robes.

Im "am" willing to work and even befriend delusional people in the cause of liberty. That doesn't make ridiculous belief in impossible things any less nuts though.


...it's hard to know exactly what is meant by 'fire' when it comes to the spiritual, but I see it as the suffering and torment people bring on themselves while insisting to travel away from that true Love, goodness, etc. To flip the idea around, it's kind of like the cold one would feel withdrawing further and further from a campfire on a chilly night, or the enveloping darkness one would experience receding further and further away from the light into a cave. Hmm...maybe, if you're a Tolkien fan, picture Gollum, shaking his fist at the sun and as he recedes into his underground caverns, devolving from a hobbit into a tortured wretch.

The longing for the warmth and the light of true Love will, I believe, eventually draw even the most wayward prodigal's soul to return, going through the discomfort of giving up the 'old man' -- being spiritually 'crucified and buried' in Christ -- and emerging into new life, even as He did. It was torture for the Smeagol to attempt to emerge from the 'Stinker' nature of Gollum, away from the power of the Ring. (And sadly he failed in that story, at least in the physical Middle Earth.)

Even though I have the hope that EVERYONE will be reconciled eventually in this manner, it'd be much better to begin to undergo that transformation now, seeking the Creator while He may be found in this life on earth.

well its as good a guess as

well its as good a guess as any I suppose. I never have any problem with Christians who don't believe in hellish damnation. Torture is immorale and it drives me nuts listening to hypocrits calling their great leader "loving" while at the same time he condones torture.

People torture themselves all the time.

Each is free to create their own hell, here and now.

Or they can give other people hell, thinking their gods.

God left us free to do that. Are we free not too?

Free includes debt-free!


He is glorious in you! ....wow, that last sentence was so awesome--beautiful and anointed.
To Christ Jesus be all the glory!

Jesus is the saviour of the WHOLE WORLD, "As in Adam all die, so too in Christ ALL shall be made alive." (ICor.15:22) All means all. The pagan 'hell' of literal fire & eternal torment is a lie and is SPIRITUAL TERRORISM. http://www.hopebeyondhell.net

What is G. O. D.

God is dog spelled backwards...

God is a spirit. He is the king of the Universe; the creator of all, good or bad. You can find God in your heart if you take time to look..

If you realize this rather than reading it in a book, or learning it from someone else, then you know where God is.

Jesus asked Peter the Apostle, "whom do they say that I am? Peter responded, "you are the Christ, the son of the living God." (Greek word for the Annointed one. The Jews called him the Massiah = The savior from our sins)

Jesus said, "No man has revealed this to you, for it was my father in heaven who has revealed it to you." Therefore, I will build my church around those people that are like you.

Jesus said, "Some day, men and women will worship God, not on any mountain or building built my mens hands, but men and women will worship God in Spirit and in truth...

God isn't looking for your money or for vain sacrifices. He is looking for rebels. Rebels for the truth. he is looking for people that are patient, kind and understanding...

This thread serves no purpose

besides causing division.

Jesus Talked of Division...He said...

Don't think I came to bring peace, but division. I bring a sword, a sword of truth. Those that speak the truth are of God. Those that speak lies are of the Devil...

Jesus said, "Whom are my Father, Mother, Brothers and Sisters?

Those that speak the truth are all of these.. The truth shines in all of those that are of the truth. You can not put out the light in those that are of the truth.

So let your light shine so that everyone can see it"

America was suppose to be that new city on the hill. A new beginning of truth, love, liberty and prosperity. Now, its just about all gone.

nuff said..

Should we not seek to find

Should we not seek to find the truth, no matter what our up-to-the-present conditioning may consist of? Is it possible to determine the truth if certain questions are tabu, and therefore not examined? Doesn't seeking and knowing the truth (to the best of our abilities) enhance our ability to be and stay free? Isn't this an ongoing process?

it makes a point , if you are offended, my apologies.

If Obama created a religion you'd go crazy, yet a Caesar did the same thing 1700 years ago and you believe it!! lol