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Rand Paul interview regarding Iran and immigration

http://youtu.be/-9cqq_fvIoc

Published on Feb 2, 2013
Senator Rand Paul discussed immigration reform, the Iranian nuclear situation and the Benghazi terrorist attack on WMAL.

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Another Op Lie about Rand Paul

Rand Paul did NOT say :

"preemptive war with Iran should be on the table"

THAT IS A BLATANT LIE

The discussion begins at 5:30 in the attached clip.
Context begins at 6:20
Quote at 6:35. "I think all options are on the table."

Naturally, even that quote alone must be taken in the context in which it was said.

But I want to be crystal clear about this. This Op thread is a BLATANT LIE HIT PIECE against Rand Paul. Rand Paul did NOT say what the Op said in its (original) title as quoted (cut and paste) above here by me in my reply.

Additionally, there was no question about preemptive strikes or war and those words are fully ABSENT from the entire interview.

How far?

If this is not enough, then how far does Rand have to go before people stop blindly supporting him?

If they haven't jumped of the wagon by now, I'm afraid they will happily go of the cliff with him.

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"The State is a gang of thieves writ large." - Murray Rothbard

Traitors, everywhere

Traitors, everywhere traitors!!! Eeeeee! I am the ONLY trustworthy libertarian alive. Everyone else is a traitor/troll/neocon shill/NWO plant/reptilian.

lol, I feel your pain.

lol, i feel your pain. People are way too uptight.

The difference between Rand Paul

And Bill Kristol continues to shrink.

The distance between Rand Paul and my vote continues to founder.

I hold out hope he is just playin the game and is sayin what needs to be said.

On the plus side, aside from Rand I just don't see the Republicans offering up much for 2016 candidates so far.

If he is up against the likes of Sarah Palin, Donald Trump, Rudy Guliani and the usual morons, he has a decent shot. Rubio would be trouble for Rand though, IMO.

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The presidency doesn't matter that much. Is electing one person for a 4 year term going to fix all of the problems. This is a grassroots up operation. We are out to educate and change minds. I could care less who is elected president of the federal govt. in 2016. It will prob. be a douche bag or a turd-sandwich.

Hear! Hear!

The task of spreading the message of liberty to the hearts and minds of a critical mass needed to support a like-minded president is far far from complete. They will just JFK him...

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Why do people in our movement

Why do people in our movement spend so much effort attacking ron paul's son when there are people like McCain and Harry Reid in the senate. Call those bastards out.

~tosses...

Rand in the same rubbish bin with McCain and Reid~

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because

nobody on this site blindly supports McCain or Harry Reid.

I'm not saying that all Rand supporters support him blindly...but the "he's playing the game" crowd most certainly seems to. How long is that excuse going to hold water?

Let's say that really did turn out to be the case, how could I ever trust a liar?

If he's telling the truth, then I can't support him because I disagree with him on too many areas, and if he's "playing the game", then I simply cannot trust him.

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What game?

politics?

He's more honest than 99% and he's changing the GOP radically and the old Libertarians who have kept LPs marginalized HATE the fact he's taking them into the GOP way better than his father dared.

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If he's more honest than 99%, then I'd rather support the 1% who are more honest than him.

I'd say it was his father and his supporters (including people like you who became RepubliCANs) who are making the bulk of the changes. Don't sell yourself short.

Also, for the record, I have never been involved with the LP.

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Anybody and everybody...

that doesn't like Rand MUST be a liberal gary johnson/ralph nader supporter! The talking points memo said it was so! ;(

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Name them.

waiting......

You're the one who brought it up

You're the one who said that Rand was more honest than 99% of politicians...how about you name them? I gave that response as a way of saying that I will only support the most HONEST people, not folks who "play the game".

Like I said, either he's being honest in regards to his stance on FP, or he's "playing the game" aka lying. I can't get with either. Don't like that? Too bad.

You Randroids are sounding more and more like the hacks you folks supposedly despise with each passing day, by trying to rationalize the actions of your newest shepard while demonizing those who stand on principle.

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He's just 1 member of the

He's just 1 member of the senate... Supporting, ron paul's son is not some life long biding influential decision like getting married. Give him a nod. He's pushing the ideas of individual liberty in the federal govt. amount a bunch of fascists.

BTW, the POWER is in your local govt. Get to know that whole scene, if you haven't already. That's how you can bring more liberty to your life.

I will support...

Rand the moment he begins to speak truth to power boldly on the issues I care about. So far he fails. And not too long ago I was a bit excited and hopeful about Rand taking up Ron's banner. I am officially looking elsewhere. Tom Woods. Constitution Party. Judge Nap, some new person, etc....

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Why do we need to find a

Why do we need to find a celebrity to get behind and "support"?

Who cares about rand paul, tom woods, etc. Just spread your own brand of liberty.

Ummm...

You're the one who is encouraging people to "get behind" Rand. And you are suggesting to just trust him before all the evidence is in.

I'm in no hurry. I keep saying on Daily Paul that winning political offices is useless and to focus on spreading the message of liberty until a critical mass of enough people is awake.

You are talking to the wrong person... :)

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I said give him a

I said give him a nod.

Agreed, political offices are useless.

As far as local stuff

agreed on that point, which is why I'm choosing to focus on my town/county.

I praise Rand on certain things and condemn him on others. I don't hate the guy or anything, but there's just too much disagreement for me to give him my full support.

I haven't *completely* written him off yet, but I don't like what I've seen thus far when it comes to FP.

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He's pretty vague about fp in

He's pretty vague about fp in the mainstream. Although I am confident he on his stance for war to be declared through congress. And that is why getting involved locally is so important.

You make a fair point

but I'm not as confident as you on his FP stance for the very reason you stated. And to be honest, the Iran sanctions still bother me. I've heard the supposed reasons for it, but it doesn't sit right with me.

I get the ever deepening impression that the system is changing him rather than the other way around. Maybe I'm wrong, but in any event, local is definitely the way to go.

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Politics has always been a

Politics has always been a shisty, dirty, lying, cheating kind of game. These people are, generally, not role models. I hate all of them, red or blue pretty much.

I agree my friend! Let's take back the areas we live in!

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Yeah, that's just it. I feel as though trying to make changes at the top is a fool's errand at this point, because the system we have now is just too far gone IMO. One doesn't erect a structure without putting down a solid foundation, after all.

Glad this didn't turn out to be a "NO U" sort of debate, lol.

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Agreed, I feel like that's

Agreed, I feel like that's the page liberty minded folk need get on. We're not going to make much progress on the TeeVee or at the federal level until we get our own little counties and towns loving liberty.

The fire and spirit of the individual that made our country what it is, is still here, you can feel it.

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+ a million

Who is it he's trying to fool again?

I think it's working, whoever it's intended for.

Only the fools

the fools who think civil war is OK but defending America with DIPLOMACY and TRADE is pre-emptive war.

That's the signal, contact your congress critters.

Fellow democrats, fellow republicans fellow independents.

War is over, if we want it!

Full court press!

Free includes debt-free!