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Neither snow, nor rain, nor color of traffic lights ...

The USPS is refusing to pay $700 in traffic tickets issued to postal carriers in East Cleveland Ohio on the basis that the Post Office enjoys federal immunity, the same as U.S. ambassadors.


A government lawyer’s attempt to get dismissed nearly $700 in traffic tickets given to the U.S. Postal Service is being met with a hearty and humorous, Heck no.

In a Jan. 22 letter sent to both the city of East Cleveland, Ohio, and the company that operates the city's photo-enforcement program, Postal Service attorney Jennifer S. Breslin says two school-zone speeding citations and five red-light infractions by postal trucks in December should be ignored.

“In providing mail service across the country, the Postal Service attempts to work within local and state laws and regulations, when feasible,” wrote Breslin, after reminding “To Whom It May Concern” that postal workers promptly deliver over 200 billion pieces of mail annually.

“However, as you are probably aware, the Postal Service enjoys federal immunity from state and local regulation,” she continued.

So why not cite the individual postal carriers responsible for the infractions? Collective bargaining agreements apparently prevent this from happening.


“We respect the postal carriers,” Norton told Fox 8. “But they’re not the Secret Service, they’re not the CIA. They do not have a law enforcement function, there’s no reason they need to speed through school zones.”

The postal service said if a police officer stops one of its carriers and writes up a ticket, the carrier would be responsible for it personally, and the postal service would not try to fight it.

But because tickets issued for violations seen on cameras go not to the driver, but to the owner of the car, the postal service won’t pay because, by law, it can’t be billed by a state or local government due to its immunity.

Van Allen said that the postal service’s agreement with its union prevents it from passing along a ticket to its carriers to pay.

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Wrongs cause harm. No immunity by vaccine. Nor by law.

Speeding through a school zone is wrong. Not safe.

A private corporation does not have immunity from speeding law. Nor do its employees. Not the Central Intel' Agencey(CIA). Nor the United States Postal Service (USPS) Both are private corporations for hire.

The CIA is an outlaw. Outside the laws of the United states of America (USA). They must operate outside USA boarders. They have not immunity (beyond their own imagination).

The USPS is not the United States Post Office. The US Postal Service is a for hire service corporation. US Postal Service is an in-law. US Postal Service operates inside the USA. Their are hired by the Post Office to carry mail. They have not immunity (beyond their own imagination).

Those individuals endangering others are liable. A corporation has some limited liability. How much depends on their charter with government.

Speeding tickets filmed & written by machine are not legal witnesses. They provide evidence. A witness may include the person that pointed the camera, RADAR, etc. Witnesses must testify & present evidence.

Many believe they have immunity. Some by vaccine. Others by law. None by truth.

"I've got them in the door, Mark! They've been trying all they knew how to freeze me out, but they can't win. This hotel ain't incorporated under the laws of the Territory, and they can't collect - they are only a lot of blasted tenants in common! O, certainly" (with bitter scorn ), "they'll get rich playing me..." - Mark Twain witnesses an argument about a hotel bill. Territorial Enterprise, May 19-21, 1863.

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

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Obm principle *might* require USPS to be placed under CIA/

FBI/ JSOC/ DHS, so that they can do ANYTHING in any fashion under total secrecy for our "security". . . Heck, they might even start utilizing drones to rain down our mails onto our rooftops ;-)

They are appointed to make their rounds, rain or shine.

They have no authority to make nor cause rain.

Disclaimer: Mark Twain (1835-1910-To be continued) is unlicensed. His river pilot's license went delinquent in 1862. Caution advised. Daily Paul

So I guess this means because

So I guess this means because murder is a state crime that postal workers can murder somone and not be prosecuted? I mean, as long its in pursuit of mail getting delivered in a timely manner.

Great find.


Thanks for the bump

kind of funny, government vs. government vs. red light cameras