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My Lacto-Vegetarian Alkaline Diet. Simple Approach to Healthy Meatless Eating.

I am adding this paragraph because it actually is the BASIS of my diet.
Be true to your BLOOD. Human blood should be slightly on the alkaline side. If your diet makes your blood acid, then you will eventually become very ill with one or all of the chronic diseases such as diabetes, heart disease, stroke, cancer...

You can eat anything you like, including meat and dairy, as long as the end result is slightly alkaline blood. Make sure your diet is 80% alkaline foods and 20% acid foods. That is the balance that promotes health.

Do the research. Perhaps begin here. Look at all his charts and make your own diet according to foods you like. Make sure to eat lots of raw alkaline vegetables.

This is my lacto-vegetarian diet, that works for me. This is for people who need some help meal planning! I am very healthy eating this way, slim, physically strong, and look younger than my years! I am never ill; not even a cold. After more than 10 years of being lacto-vegetarian and keeping my blood alkaline, I feel no desire to eat any kind of fish, bird, or animal. I have also cut down greatly on flour products such as bread, cakes, pasta, and there is no sugar in my home, just honey.

Lunch can be taken and heated up at work. Homemade soup has vegetable water as its base. Never throw away any water from vegetables or potatoes. Change to ALMOND flour and sorghum flour for baking. Use raisins and a tbsp honey only. You get used to less sweetened baking, and then a regular doughnut or cookie will taste too sweet to you.

Typical Day:

Breakfast - 2 eggs, 1 toast, raw tomato and red peppers, coffee, water, 500 mg Vitamin C.

Lunch - 1/2 cup beans in tomato sauce with fried onion mixed in and and raw peppers if you like, 1 slice bread, a mug of homemade soup, and water

Afternoon snack: 1 Sliced banana with some pecans, walnuts, raisins, topped with 1/4 cup plain yogurt.

Supper - homemade veggie burger, 1/2 cup homemade oven roasted potato wedges sprinkled with Mrs. Dash, 1/2 cup peas and corn, turnip, lettuce, raw tomatoes and red peppers, a few olives, a mug of homemade soup, and water

Evening snack: 1/2 apple with thin slices dipped in 1 tsp honey, YUM (this is like medicine and will prevent acid reflux if you have that problem. Have nothing else before bed. Water if thirsty.)

Veggie Burger Recipe - Easy to Make and Delicious!

Throw it all in the blender and grate/mix. Then ladle by 1/2 cup onto parchment paper (like big cookies they can touch) on a large cookie sheet and bake about 40 min at 350. Makes 12 burgers. Freeze and reheat 1 at a time as a sandwich or burger or meat replacement at a meal. 1.5 min in microwave or heat in fry pan. YUM

Toss it all in the blender:
4 eggs, 1 big yellow onion, 2 large carrots, some sweet potato or turnip, 1 stick celery, 1 can well rinsed kidney beans or mixed beans 19 oz, 1/ 2 cup each sunflower seeds and pumpkin seeds, 2 tsp basil, 1 tsp parsley, 1 tsp oregano, some rosemary, 1 tsp salt, 1 tsp olive oil, Top with some dry oregano just before you put the cookie sheet in the oven. Enjoy. I like them with a tsp catchup.

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Be True to Your Teeth

Primates are omnivores. That flexibility is part of what makes us so successful compared to other critters on this planet. Omnivores (or opportunists) are both metabolically and emotionally prepared to weather any kind of famine or storm.

Whether you believe in a god (or more), or whether you understand that millions of years of evolution have influenced our physiology, the truth will be found in your mouth. You have incisors for clipping raw vegetables, molars for grinding grain and pulping roots, and canines for ripping flesh.

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Teeth? Tell Us the Tooth!"

I looked in my mouth: My "canines" can barely puncture a potato chip bag, let along the hide of an animal.
Which is all good because I don't have the claws to catch it nor the speed, reflexes, and endurance to catch the thing (I'm fast, but those rabbits, elk, and ferrets are just built for speed in comparison!)

I've seen people do some amazing things, but I have yet to see anyone able to take down wild game and tear it apart with their canines. However, I see people puncturing fruit skins with their canines quite easily - it's funny how those canines hold the fruit in place while the incisors cut off a piece so naturally.

I suppose I can say my heart evolved to pump murderous hormones into my system to get me into the mood to kill, or that my legs are there for kicking small animals into my mouth to eat, and my brain is just the organ that takes care of processing the bloodlust information needed for my hands to strangle doves with...
In which case we should call our fingernails "claws" and our toenails "talons" along with our skin being called "hide" and our hair "fur" to keep up the tough-guy beast-man image... or...
We should think about renaming our canines something like "potato chip bag puncturing teeth".

Yep. I agree about what teeth tell us.

Might I also add, be true to your BLOOD. Human blood should be slightly on the alkaline side. If your diet makes your blood acid, then you will eventually become very ill with one or all of the chronic diseases such as diabetes, heart disease, stroke, cancer...

You can eat anything you like as long as the end result is slightly alkaline blood. Make sure your diet is 80% alkaline foods and 20% acid foods. That is the balance that promotes health.

Do the research. Perhaps begin here. Look at all his charts and make your own diet according to foods you like.

your post may be one of the

your post may be one of the best ones ever at the DP. Everyone should bookmark that rense.com link. I've found that the Rense listings of alkaline vs acidic foods is very accurate...many online lists are not.

Diseases will THRIVE in an acidic diet.

Other good info from that link most people don't know...

"Although it might seem that citrus fruits would have an acidifying effect on the body, the citric acid they contain actually has an alkalinizing effect in the system.

Note that a food's acid or alkaline forming tendency in the body has nothing to do with the actual pH of the food itself. For example, lemons are very acidic, however the end products they produce after digestion and assimilation are very alkaline so, lemons are alkaline forming in the body. Likewise, meat will test alkaline before digestion, but it leaves very acidic residue in the body so, like nearly all animal products, meat is very acid forming.

“Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it’s realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy.”
― Ron Paul

Thanks. Agree. This is a life and death issue.

Government will not protect people from their own eating habits. In fact pharmo will encourage these bad eating habits because illness is $$$$ and it is very big $$$$

I try to make a little difference by educating others and setting the example of being healthy by eating the alkalizing diet.

I hate labels

Conservative, liberal, libertarian, vegetarian ,etc.... I'm just a person with a set of beliefs and practices.

On that note, I eat veggies, fruits, beans, nuts, hemp, grains and rice.

I don't worry about protein since hemp, bee pollen and other veggies provide a good source. I also exersize, lift weights and run ultra marathons without the use of meat.

Just my perspective....

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Agree about labels.

I eat what you eat plus eggs-dairy (minimal), but many who want to eat that way have no idea where to begin.

People get chronically ill on the modern diet and can get ill on ANY diet if they do not have knowledge of what to eat for health. Any diet can work if you have done the research and listen to your body.

Epidemic diabetes, heart disease, stroke, is because of the modern diet and people eating without thought. It is the ACID diet that promotes ill health. This is what everyone needs to know.

Eating the primal way

There is only one proper "diet" fit for human consumption. It is the same diet eaten by our ancestors.

Saturated fat is necessary for health and proper brain function. There are some viable substitutes, but pure, untainted animal flesh is the healthiest source. You can avoid contributing to animal cruelty by either purchasing products from reputable farmers with pastured, free-range livestock or by raising animals yourself.



The only diet that cured most of my health issues.

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I think any diet can promote health

if you know what you are doing and listen to your body. If you are healthy you will not even get colds. Whatever your diet it should promote perfect health if it is right for you.


Vegetarian Question

I have always been annoyed when vegetarians say honey is not vegan. I know why their saying it. But don't you vegan people realize without the commercial beekeepers like me you will not have the large choice of fruits, vegetables, and nuts. Also most vegans don't realize if you have no bees theres no pollination and no seeds for that vegan garden.

So it sure looks like honey is vegan!

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The Answer

The reason why the honey you buy at the store is not considered vegan is because it exploits the bee. Commercial honey farms take honey from the bee as surely as a diary farmer takes milk from a cow. Vegans consider all life important (even plants) and will not harm anything to benefit themselves if they can help it (their life is important as well). With this kind of principle they don't run from the truth, so instead of making excuses why they can eat honey they simply do not. That's what makes them a vegan instead of a hypocrite.

Fruits, veggies, and nuts have been a big part of agriculture before commercial beekeepers. If you believe commercial beekeepers are necessary you'll have to provide evidence to be verified.

And the idea of not having bees meaning we don't have proper pollination has no bearing on if honey is vegan or not. It's a tangent. If there weren't a sun we wouldn't have plants.

This isn't meant to be offensive to you, as a beekeeper, but as one who looks at matters logically, it does not logically follow that honey fits within vegan principles. Although I can see why, as a beekeeper, you'd want everyone to enjoy your product.

Commercial beekeepers

need income from several sources to survive like pollination fees, sale of honey, and even bees. Without selling their honey most beekeepers would go out of business.

If you think fruits and vegetables don't really need the commercial bees to survive, just ask an almond grower in California or an apple orchard. I have seen apple trees go completely barren without the bees, as soon as bees show up the trees have apples again. I remember one year in the almond groves it was so cold bees could only fly very short distances. The only trees with lots of almonds were the one close to the hives. I seen this happen one year when I was traveling to California with bees.

So the only way you vegetarian people get a good selection of vegetables and seeds for the garden is because of the honey bee.

That makes honey vegan!

BTW I was sure I was going to get the same lame excuse about bees being manipulated by man. I was hoping to change your reality tunnel, if only slightly.

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Logic, My Friend, is Your Friend

This discussion wasn't about whether or not beekeepers can or will go out of business for any reason. You asked why honey is not considered vegan, and I showed you the verifiable logic behind it.

But just for the sake of continuing discussion: No, farmers don't necessarily need bees to survive - just ask the Japanese farmers. They will pollinate their trees by hand (or actually by brush).

And finally, I will REINSTATE the logic about honey NOT being vegan: Vegan is not diet, it is a philosophy. Vegans do not endorse the exploitation of animals (this includes honey bees).

Is taking honey away from a bee colony considered vegan?

Taking honey = exploiting
Bee = animal

Taking honey from bees = Exploiting an animal.

Vegans do NOT exploit animals.

Logically they will NOT support bee keepers, to do so would be to support anti-vegan principles.

BTW when someone uses logic it is counterproductive to your side of the argument to use terms like "lame excuses" and "reality tunnel". Logic will trump that kind of rhetoric EVERY TIME.

Also, I never said I was vegetarian. I was simply showing you the logical path of the argument so you can change your business approach. So that maybe you can honestly say your product is NOT vegan, but the bees are taken care of as best as possible and the product is very good for health and wellness instead of fallaciously misleading people in hopes they change their already difficult and deep-seated lifestyle so you can get your product sold instead of simply just coming off as rude and being reason enough to drive people toward veganism.
You're welcome.

Here is some logic

Without the beekeeper manipulating the beehives to produce more honey, and do more pollination. All you vegans would probably starve out! The honeybee gives you all that is green and wholesome in the produce section.

BTW if Monsatan continues to wipe out the bee population, we all will have no choice to pollinate crops by hand. This has already happened in some areas in China from pollution.

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Please Restate

The title of your post inferred logical reasoning was going to be used to form an argument. In order to do that I would require two premises and a conclusion. Please edit or repost for a reasonable response, otherwise there's no reason to try to reason without reason.

To point you in the right direction:
* The kink in the reasoning is that we are using both bee colonies and beekeepers as one and the same. It may be so that bees have existed for a long time, playing a major role in the pollination processes, but beekeepers have not.

* Another kink is trying to sell non-vegan products to vegans by telling them they are wrong and you are right based on fallacy (I have shown the logic behind why it is NOT vegan, either correct a mistake in my logic reasoning or accept the reasoning is sound).

* Monsatan has nothing to do with whether or not honey is vegan. That's a red herring, though I agree that company needs to wither and die. But playing off to my emotions isn't going to help me help you any.

The conclusion still stands that vegans should not be supporting honey farms, sorry, it's not that I am telling people not to buy your product, I am simply saying there are better ways of moving your product than trying to sell it to a demographic of people who have philosophies against supporting it.
I will help you an a million and one ways, but I my standard is I have to support reasonable people. Until then I will offer my insight on matters and when we can align in reason then we can work together. If not, we can agree to disagree and go our separate ways.

(And nowhere in our conversation have I stated I was vegan or vegetarian, so I'll point out the folly of saying "all you vegans" when you are speaking to me).

Animal Protein (Even Dairy) Promotes Cancer

The China Study proves that animal protein (meat, fish, eggs, dairy, etc) allows for the growth of cancer and several other degenerative diseases.

Eliminate all animal protein from your diet to live healthy.

Watch Forks Over Knives to find out the truth.

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China Study

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Watch Food Inc. and Joel Salatin videos. Truth and Logic.

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Cancer is the end result of a diet

that has caused the blood to become acid. You can eat any diet you want and be healthy, as long as the end result is your blood is slightly on the alkaline side. Every disease is the result of
long term ingestion of a diet that has caused acid blood.

There is not room here to teach all about this very important concept.

You can have meat, dairy, any food you like as long as you balance your diet such that you are eating 80% alkaline foods and 20% acid foods. Study the charts and change your diet if necessary.

Do the research. Maybe you can start here.

Not sure why you were voted down?

The China Study and Forks over Knives are fantastic research projects ( China Study especially) that has great evidence and really makes one think...

+1 from me for sure

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The China Study is a fraud.

Animal protein doesn't cause cancer. Hormones and chemicals do.

Go free range and discover true nutrition.


Are you claiming that eating meat protein is not acid forming in digestion? If so have you ever tried running this tripe past any doctors?

The word protein comes from the word proton which explains chemically why foods high in protein are acid forming in digestion, and therefore create an anaerobic (low oxygen) environment in the body tissues, therefore leaving the door open to all pathogenic disease including all forms of cancer. Yes we do need to consume some proteins to be healthy. But the fact is that nothing can grow without protein, so ALL FOOD contains protein. So in actuality it seems that MINIMIZING high protein content foods in our diet is perhaps the most fundamental thing we can do in the interest of good health (bear in mind that pathogenic diseases are the biggest killers).

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1. You should never rely on

1. You should never rely on the advice of "doctors". By and large, their expertise is limited to the government propaganda they learned in medical "school", the training grounds of the American Medical Association, which is a Rockefeller-founded, government-sponsored organization.

2. You and many others have been brainwashed and lied to about "animal protein". Of the vast reasons to consume animal flesh, "protein" is very near the bottom. You can find adequate sources of protein in various non-meat products.

What you have not been told is that diets which restrict meat are severely lacking in SATURATED FAT. Saturated fat is the most important part of the homosapien diet. Why do you think so many products are "low-fat" these days? It is a government conspiracy to keep us stupid and sick.

If you are worried about the acid forming properties of proteins in meat, don't be. The "pH balance diet" is a myth.

The Fat/Protein/Carb ratio in a proper primal diet is around 60/20/20. Primitive cultures with carnivorous diets subsisted on a 80/20 fat to protein ratio.


You must not have read the book

A fraud? Show me your study why that is so and show me the fraud....

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The World is my country, all mankind is my brethren, to do good is my religion.

Read up.

You can believe the propaganda if you want, but the lies of the China Study have been thoroughly destroyed for a long time. It is a book of misinformation written by a vegetarian with an agenda.






Humans are not rats. Rats have a digestive physiology almost a polar opposite to ours.

I have yet to review your links but I must say your too critical

It is a proven fact that a plant based diet not only helps but reverses heart disease . Dr. Esscelstien, Colin Campbell and Dean Ornish all came up with the same findings independent of each other.

Converting to a plant based diet changed my life. I was 240 lbs, cigar smoker, big steak eater and worked a high stress job.

I made a decision first to change my eating habits and went to a plant based diet. Soon after with the blast of nutrition I was receiving it was no longer satisfying to me to smoke cigars. I seemed to tolerate stress much better and took up running. 6 years later I'm 190 pounds, can run over 50 miles and never felt better. I'm in the best shape of my life and owe it to eating a clean plant based diet.

I am living the results. It is a conclusive study with me.....

And that's all that matters. .

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1. The "studies" that claim

1. The "studies" that claim that a plant-based diet reverses heart disease are lying. True studies have concluded that there is no difference in cases of atherosclerosis between vegetarians and meat eaters. If you only consider the facts behind fat intake and how it affects the body, it becomes apparent.


2. Your problem is that you've confused cause and effect.

Let me guess, you weren't just a "big steak eater". I bet you ate a lot of junk too. Carbs, sugar, processed foods, the whole shebang. Then you made the right choice to begin eating healthier. I bet that you not only gave up meat, but you gave up a lot of other foods as well on your path to nutritional awareness?

That's why you lost weight. That's why you became healthier. It wasn't because you gave up meat. It was because you became a healthier eater overall and chose a healthier lifestyle (i.e. you quit smoking). Even vegetarianism is better for you than the "typical American diet". Also note that the "steak" you were eating before came from animals which were fed genetically modified grains and were injected with harmful chemicals and hormones (all of which you were indirectly digesting).

3. Your new found physical ability has nothing to do with health. I've known "physically fit" marathon runners whose diets consists of bread, pasta, sugar and ice cream. You should also know that intense aerobic activity is counter-productive to health and runners tend to eventually experience heart problems.


4. If you are living animal-flesh free. You are not healthy, whether or not you feel like you are. It's that simple.

You are not getting enough saturated fat, vitamin B12, iron, beta-carotene/vitamin A (unless you're eating tons of butter), and vitamin D. Eventually, these deficiencies will come around to bite you.

A proper diet consists of adequate amounts of (natural) meats, vegetables, and fruits while avoiding grains, sugars, and other processed foods. We are omnivores. Why do you think human beings have incisors? Just for looks?

Just take a look at all of these examples of people who have found true health through true nutrition. Are all of them killing themselves with meat?


The trouble with proven facts is

that most of them are counteracted by other "proven facts." Do what works for you and don't assume that one size fits all.

I and a few friends of mine became very sick on vegetarian/vegan diets. Didn't work for us. And yes, we did them right.

“The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion.”
― Albert Camus

Please listen to the Cardiac Surgeon Lew Rockell listens to.

He started a Dean Ornish Center and saw how it damaged his patients.

And check out Mark's Daily Apple.

Dr. Esscelstien, Colin Campbell and Dean Ornish are all policy wonks. They have an agenda and it matches the one concocted by government.

Look around and see what their policies have produced. It's almost criminal.

Wait on the vegetarian thing until one of these guys is a healthy 100 year old.

How many 100 year old vegetarians do you know?

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