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If you could choose one candidate to run for president, who would it be?

Ron Paul.

But if he doesn't run, then who?

2008 has grown massively leading to 2012. Instead of continuing to grow this r3VOLution, you have let it die. Is it now becoming more difficult? Are you throwing in the towel? Have you accepted that it is now necessary to play ball with ptb and gop?

Have you learned nothing?

My point is this: Ron Paul never would have realized the momentum had it not been for r3VOLution. WE should be propping our candidate of choice. If we can decide upon a solid candidate, each one of us should be propping that candidate in our respective states, counties, locally. If each one of us participates, then we can have real momentum, larger than any rallies that we have ever had previously.

I am certain that if enough support for one candidate evolves, the person who we select will readily accept.

Or will you just settle for what msm offers? Because if that is the case, then I am on the WRONG forum.

Mid terms are approaching and we should be focusing on those. But mark my words establishment has already been working on 2016. So have I.

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"If you could choose one candidate to run for president, who

would it be?"

The first person to agree to wipe D.C. from the face of the earth.

Edited to DC: Washington State is one of my favorite fives.. Would want anyone to think I hate that place. lol

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Count me in.

Best answer yet!

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

I voted you up because of the negative lol

We have some government worshipers among us. :)

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Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.

"We have some government worshipers among us."

I don't forsee this site lasting long. Michael eluded to that once, but I thought things would iron out over time. It hasn't.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

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Well, for anyone who feels depressed because of

Well, for anyone who feels depressed because of such possibly unavoidable evolution of government into big one and then tyranny, or... well, nothing in replacement (which makes me as uneasy, as well)... maybe there is a third option somewhat overlooked (forgotten?) and worth considering, too...

Hint:

http://www.dailypaul.com/272863/which-is-best-government-ana...

;)

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

We'll see.. for his sake, I hope you're wrong.

I'm optimistic that many of those who left because of Dr.Paul losing, GJ being promoted so nastily and now Rand being pushed like he is as well, will come back if someone of real substance shows up.

Despite GJ, if by chance a real Libertarian of substance, were to sneak past the entrenched neocon power elites in the LP, I would even consider him or her.

My pick though IF Dr.Paul doesn't run is Judge Nap or Tom Woods. I don't know if either of them will run but a lot can happen between now and then.

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Dick Cheney

Because he said he would not run, and if elected he would not serve.

I saw the best minds of my generation, destroyed by pandas starving hysterical naked

-Allen Ginsberg

Rand Paul.

I thought about it. I really would like a big ol' war with Iran. Complete with thermonucleonic big bombs. He is absolutely right! Nothing should be off the table: Phosphorus weapons, thermobaric weapons, cluster bombs, miniaturized suitcase nukes (thank you Big dick cheney), plutobombastic extratoxic uranimonic poobombs, thermodynasticexcrementdropping bombs, intercontinentalpoopoochainreactive bombs, supercalifragilisticexplialidotical fraternizing spermonuclear peenee bombs, dirty sanctions (levels 1-8, starving babies not a problem), muzzle loaders, weather weapons (thermonuclear cyclones please), Acne big black bombs, WileECyote hydrogenetic-hiroshima dirty bombs, and, of course, backpack-delivered hyperpigmentedMaxFactor blush bombs. Absolutely NOTHING is off the table!!

RAND PAUL!! RAND PAUL!!! RAND PAUL!!! 8[

I feel so stupid that his Dad was such a big influence on me now.

Eat your hearts out BAGHDADIS!!!

That's dumb.

That's dumb.

My choice would be

Lady Liberty!

" In Thee O Lord do I put my trust " ~ Psalm 31:1~

RAND PAUL is our only realistic hope.

And this is doable for sure given that he is a popular US Tea Party Senator.

You are relying on 'they'.

The question was posed to you, not 'they'.

For the record, Rand is not 'my' only hope. I would preface that by saying, hope for what?

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

I wouldn't pick Ron Paul

I thank Ron Paul. I'm still learning from Ron Paul, but it's OVER, GOP, or Indy.. running as an Indy would be futile.

He will support Rand and that's MY candidate.

My contribution:

I would solidly get behind Amash or the Judge.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

I wouldn't get behind either of them either

They will also back Rand. I know it's hard for some to wake up and gt with the program of restoring America being there is no much negetivity in many forms.. but Rand is the man who I stand with now.

Rand or the Judge

I would also vote for Johnson. Ideal rhetoric seems to come from Judge Nap. Johnson lacks depth but has a whole foods libertarian feel about him that I like. However, Rand is the only real politician on the libertarian right. As for ideal candidate.... I think we got to go local and see if someone rises up from the pack. Granger you are in politics, right? Thats more than me. Good work!

Yes, MarkDran, I am

I got into politics, the GOP, when Ron Paul announced his second GOP run for president because I knew he was not going to go third party or Indy. I can admit, I was afraid, but once I started going to meetings, I began to understand why Ron Paul stayed in the GOP.

So, yes, now I'm in the GOP, and I LOVE the fact that Rand is opening minds and changing the GOP.. I see it on my committee, where at first, they wanted nothing to do with me, and now they talk Liberty more than I do. I enjoy listening to them, and I really enjoy the Ron Paul supporters who are growing with me.

WE ARE THE FUTURE, and it's awesome, and why those who are on here displaying their negetive political outlook don't bother me.. I've got a winner in Rand and they've got nothing.

Who the fuck do you think you're talking about?

I won't back Rand nor will many Real Ron Paul people.

You're a fucking phony just like I pointed out... You never supported Dr.Paul.. you just got in place to support the next neocon/neocon-lite. That's why it was easy for you to keep your oath to the RNC and vote for Romney.

It's funny to see you deny what everyone can see.

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Say it isn't so!

The Granger a neocon supporting dufe and phony liberty advocate?

Hell, one would think that he/she/it presents as a GOP-Hack and supported Der Mittens or something.

Now I suppose you'll want to add the creepy-zealous 'Cult of Rand' stuff too.

The list:

Bill...check
Feathers...check
Webbed-feet...check
Greasy schite...check
Annoying incessant 'CoR' quack...check

Hell, I guess it is so, rp4pres, afterall.

:)

Where ya been man? Perusing? :)

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Some, but...

...I generally make several posts/replies daily.

Good to see you continuing to hit the nail on the head. It is refreshing.

Thank you.

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Invalid response.

'THEY'

It is completely known that you fully support Rand. Your response indicates that you are relying on 'THEY', as you have done with your oath.

Granger, if YOU could choose a candidate of your own choice, negating outside influence, who would that be?

[Thinking to myself that this thread is a futile effort, as very few have really learned a single thing]

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

These people have always supported neocon-lites

the momentum was behind Dr.Paul and that's why they chose him but rest assured, they believed that he would never win knowing that they'd be ready to step into his place when or if he refused to run in 2016.

No, they have learned NOTHING. Every single one of them makes me sick.

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I am disgusted.

I am glad that you entered in as reinforcment, rp4pres. But with everyone bailing out prior to election and then being divided by gj, this forum has become a place for gossip and cartoons. I am sad to say that everything Dr. Paul has tried to accomplish has gone down the sh|tter. I worked my f&cking ass off this election. It was my first, I have learned so much, I was so looking forward to utilizing it for the next election.

Even I am wrong sometimes. Grrrrrr!

This forum has become what this Republic has become. An idiotic democracy. So be it!!!!

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

Even as cynical as I am about things

I AM highly optimistic about some things. Those being that Liberty will be restored, one way or another. We can fight through the political system or we can fight in the streets, I don't much care when it comes to the big picture. In the end, it will be restored even if it's at my own personal loss.

I realize for many, those are just dramatic words they might say on the internet but for some of us, it's truth.

A life without Liberty is no life at all.

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I'm not relying on "they"

I'm backing Rand and anyone who understands politics and appreciates Ron Paul's message will back Rand because Rand not only gets both, but knows this system and will win.

The Judge is a MSM BS artist,, all talk no walk.
And Amash has a long long long long long long way to go.

Rand is the man who I stand with!

I'm backing Rand now, at the conventions, and with money that wil;l be well invested.

What you got? An ex TV host and a Jr congressman.. sad. Really.

"What you got? An ex TV host and a Jr congressman.. sad. Really.

Your disrespect for Napolitano and Amash is what's sad but expected.

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"sad. Really."

Yes, it is sad.

It is sad when establishment prevails when others are true patriots who educate and speak the truth without playing games and adding confusion to the general populace.

It is sad that we once had the growing momentum to prop a Liberty candidate of OUR choice and not rely on msm, gop or others influence.

It is sad that many will back a name and not the policies that we once faught for.

It is sad that many continue to follow rather than take the lead. It is even sadder yet when you will take the lead that others have set forth for you.

It is sad that next election will be weaker than this.

It is sad for anyone who claims to understand politics to believe that romney would have actually won and would have bettered our cause.

What you got? More of the same. Enjoy. You will once again deserve what you get.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

Confused?

All that means is you don't understand politics.

Rand is far from more of the same, but since you admit you're confused and think some ex TV show host is the answer, or a Jr Congressman who has a LONG LONG LONG way to go politically has a chance.. what's sad is the fact that you and those who you agree with and visa versa really don't want to restore the republic.. you want a circus act in the name of peace.