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Ron Paul TWEETS About SEAL Sniper's Chris Kyle's Death: 'He that lives by the sword dies by the sword'

Update: Rand Paul Responds | Update: Ron Paul clarifies his Tweet on Facebook

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Vince Coglianese | Daily Caller | 02/04/2013

Former congressman and libertarian icon Ron Paul tweeted a startling reaction to the death of SEAL sniper Chris Kyle on Monday:

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Chris Kyle's death seems to confirm that "he who lives by the sword dies by the sword." Treating PTSD at a firing range doesn't make sense.
5:05 PM - 04 Feb 13

Kyle and a friend were both killed by a veteran struggling with PTSD while working with him at a gun range on Saturday.

The former Marine, Eddie Ray Routh, turned his weapon on the other two men and shot them at close range, according to news accounts.

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you dont consider a crooked fade and dancing the jig as being from joosey, so how can you say you can believe or confirm anything?

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So much for that one up there being the last...?
Glad your still around.

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I feel sorry for the mans

I feel sorry for the mans family and that he died. I would consider him a true hero but he glorified his kills like trophies and that's not right especially given the Iraq situation. That said I appreciate ur comment. It gets emotional and frantic being in the liberty movement at times.

RP just commented on Facebook...

"As a veteran, I certainly recognize that this weekend's violence and killing of Chris Kyle were a tragic and sad event. My condolences and prayers go out to Mr. Kyle’s family. Unconstitutional and unnecessary wars have endless unintended consequences. A policy of non-violence, as Christ preached, would have prevented this and similar tragedies. -REP"

That sounds like RP.

Perhaps he needs to put some time and effort into getting control of his twitter name, at least ronpaul.com does not pretend to be him.

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Ahhh this is what I was

Ahhh this is what I was waiting for. But this is just the begining. Paul needs some TV time.

Hm, I'd like to get word of

Hm, I'd like to get word of mouth confirmation.

If he does come out in support of that statement, it's very shocking. No amount of backpedaling on this statement will help; it can no longer be retracted.

There is no amount of "clarifying" and attempting to shift his statement from addressing the guilt of soldier, to a policy maker.

As it stands, the implication of his opinion is that all soldiers have lived by the sword, and can expect to die by the sword (and justifiably so).

Sad day, indeed.

Don't Do This

If you want to make a difference, never, ever give away a soundbite like that. I know what you're getting after, but the rest of the world thinks you're spitting on his grave. Let his family grieve as you would hope that others would let yours do the same. There's no moral compromise here, real peace means forgiving your enemy too.

And yeah, downvote away. Just keep it on the daily paul.

As this thread might

As this thread might indicate, you're speaking to a "majority" pack of savages. Good luck trying to be sensible.

Pack of Savages?

And who in this thread has killed over 150 people and written a book bragging about it? Sorry, but the irony of this post is rivaled only by its sheer short-sighted stupidity. I for one am proud of Ron Paul for saying this, because sooner or later somebody had to. Our present foreign policy will eventually destroy us if we keep this up.

If you're going to leave this forum, do us a favor and stay gone. You belong with either Obama or Karl Rove anyway.

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We at the dp tend to eat

We at the dp tend to eat ourselves. We should wait for ron to issue a statement. This wasn't a hack attempt because the tweet would have been retracted by now and LRC wouldn't be defending it. Look, lets be real my fellow ron Paul fans, this tweet left as it is hurts the movement and almost obliterates our support with vets. Now ron's a smart man so this is more than likely a PR stunt so he can get on TV to discuss the issue, all the while expressing sympathy for Kyle's family. That would be the best and a very positive scenario. I don't think I need to go to the worst case because I mean funds for many things having been lagging (hello dp donations) so we will end up losing a lot of supporters because of it. Sure they might still accept ron Paul's positions but they may move to something or someone that appears less toxic. We need to unite but like I said if the tweet controversy is left as is we will feel the pain.

I don't need Ron to clarify a

I don't need Ron to clarify a statement to judge a statement. I'm not condemning him for it because frankly I don't believe he posted it, but it's great to see where people stand. I'm just disheartened at the amount of people on DP that believe our troops are murdering scum that should all be put on trial.


I am so sick of you putting words here that were never said.
Your an A$$.

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You said we should hold

You said we should hold Nuremberg trials in the United States. I mean, you're equating low level armed infantry with the Nazis. I mean, do I need to say more?

I agree with this...whether

I agree with this...whether you agree with him or not, the tweet is not helping the liberty movement. He could have at least waited a few weeks or, if he wanted to address the issue immediately then he should have wrote an article going into more detail about his opinions. A simple tweet was not the way to go.

That being said, I still don't think he would write this but the fact that he hasn't came out yet is troubling to me.

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sniping=legalized murder

and is sanctioned by the U.S. Government.
Plain and simple.
I don't know if Dr. Paul wrote the tweet or not.
It is a true statement none the less.
How about this---focus instead on the fact that 160 individuals were CONFIRMED murdered by Chris Kyle.
Those 160 people had families that loved them & miss them to this day.
Why were we in Iraq to begin with?
All based on a LIE!
Whether Ron Paul wrote it or not, it sounds like what he would think.
Out of the overflow of the heart the mouth speaks.
I also feel bad for those that loved Chris Kyle-- my dad knew & loved Chris Kyle. I spoke with my dad today & he said when he learned the news he felt sick.
My dad is a former Marine & was good friends with Carlos Hancock (the record sniper holder for the Marine Corp) & this is how my dad became friends with Chris--Chris loved to hear my dad's stories about Carlos.
I told my dad the whole situation is very sad.

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And here...

...I was focused on the PTSD and shooting range part.

Silly me.

I say again that I find camaraderie and shooting/range-time to be therapeutic, despite what Ron Paul, or 'whoever', wrote about it not making sense.

Seems to be the comment of a non-gun/non-shooter guy, to me and as such, I call it ignorance. I am sure that all manner of gun-grabbers would agree with the comment in the tweet, however.

Murders should be killed?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm trying to follow your logic here. Are you saying that murderers deserve to be killed? If so, it seems strange that you support Ron Paul who is strongly against the death penalty.

where are you seeing that I advocate killing?

I find it strange that you suggest that my post advocates killing? Where have I suggested or advocated such a position?
Jesus told Peter (after Peter came to the defense of Jesus by pulling a sword and chopping off a persons ear) he who lives by the sword will die by the sword. This act of Peter's (most would agree) was done in love & loyalty for Jesus....and yet Jesus rebuked him and told him to put away his sword.
You ask, " Are you saying that murderers deserve to be killed?"
No, I am stating that he who lives by the sword (sowing seeds of death and destruction in the lives of others) should not be surprised when they reap a harvest of death and destuction WITHIN their own lives.
For the record, I and my family are against the death penalty, we are pacifists...and even though I am a pacifist I would never take away another's right to own a gun. I am ruled by the Kingdom of God and His law is that of love... I am to lay my life down for another...not take it.
His mercy and peace to you.

Jesus is the saviour of the WHOLE WORLD, "As in Adam all die, so too in Christ ALL shall be made alive." (ICor.15:22) All means all. The pagan 'hell' of literal fire & eternal torment is a lie and is SPIRITUAL TERRORISM. http://www.hopebeyondhell.net


RP is not "strongly" against the death penalty.
In fact he was PRO death penalty until not to long ago.

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He's been against the death

He's been against the death penalty for years. He's called it "barbaric." I'd call that "strong."


Ron Paul has said the states are to decide this issue and his justice department will respect any state decisions on the matter.
That is HARDLY "Strongly against the death penalty".
and he was PRO death penalty for many more years then hes been against it, and please link to where he said it was "barbaric" because he NEVER said this.

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I'm sure you have an

I'm sure you have an incredibly well-organized library of all of Ron Paul's interviews, so you can link to any of them at the drop of a hat to prove that he said x or y. I, however, do not. He DID say it though, during one of his interviews while he was running for president in 2012.

If you want to search around for it, be my guest. While you look for that, here's another interview that I quickly found where he "argues the moral case against it," and says, "If you believe in the death penalty...do it on Times Square and see them get their head chopped off and see how much [people] like it! Make them look at it!" (Skip to the last few minutes.) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0mGDcybDL4

Keep in mind that just because Ron believes in states rights, it doesn't that he supports all the decisions that states might make. For example, I would also call him strongly pro-life, but he believes in letting the states handle abortion laws as well.


the people in out gvt who have sent hundreds of thousands of our military men and women to their deaths over the years deserve the death penalty if found guilty.
Paul will flip his anti death penalty stance for that Im sure.

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Oh yeah? Last I checked he

Oh yeah? Last I checked he didn't even agree with the assassination of Osama bin Laden.

A pertinent article from before this happened


The professionals seem to back Ron Paul. I will still stand on MY experience, though, and say that it could be very good therapy, for the right person.

Please watch this excellent video, at least the first couple of minutes:

If one only seeks "treatment" for their PTSD, then indeed going to a firing range would be an odd "treatment." But if you seek to transcend your condition, it could be exactly what you need to do. Perhaps by accident, Dr. Paul has located yet another way that "modern medicine" prevents cures.

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I'm pretty sure no one is

I'm pretty sure no one is disagreeing with Paul suggesting someone with PTSD probably shouldn't be at a firing range.

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