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U.S. Soldiers Stripped of Guns During (March 2012) Leo Panetta Address

Was talking with a friend about PTS(d) and what it must be like for returning soldiers who never went anywhere, anywhere without their gun, to be not allowed to have one when they return from duty.

I mentioned that I could tell him of one time when at least 100 active soldiers were ordered to disarm:
http://www.gunreports.com/news/news/US-Soldiers-Stripped-of-...
He has lots more military friends than I do and honestly couldn't believe it at first, but then he asked me if I knew of any follow-up to this:

"...Around 200 troops who had gathered in a tent at Camp Leatherneck were told "something had come to light" and asked abruptly to file outside and lay down their automatic rifles and 9mm pistols. The incident is believed to be the first time US troops were stripped of guns during an address by their own secretary of defense..."

I told him no I hadn't heard anything but I'd look into it. Well google hasn't told me anything new yet. Anyone out there know anything, or even what questions we should be asking? Some I'd like to know are:

-Did all the 200 troops follow the orders?
-Were any who didn't disciplined?
-Did this set some kind of precedent?
-Has it been done again since the March event?
-Has Panetta ever been questioned about this by congress?




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Chris found this

You found this. And it helps.

Less than a week after a US staff sergeant allegedly massacred 16 civilians in Kandahar, American soldiers were banned from bringing guns into a talk by Mr Panetta at a base in Helmand province.

Around 200 troops who had gathered in a tent at Camp Leatherneck were told "something had come to light" and asked abruptly to file outside and lay down their automatic rifles and 9mm pistols.

"Somebody got itchy, that's all I've got to say. Somebody got itchy – we just adjust," said the sergeant who was told to clear the hall of weapons.

Major General Mark Gurganus later said he gave the order because Afghan troops attending the talk were unarmed and he wanted the policy to be consistent for all.

"You've got one of the most important people in the world in the room," he told the New York Times, insisting that the decision was unrelated to Sunday's killings. "This is not a big deal."

However, US troops often remain armed even when their Afghan colleagues have been asked to lay down their weapons and the incident is believed to be the first time they were stripped of guns during an address by their own secretary of defence.

The Ministry of Defence was unable to confirm reports that a small number of British troops had also been asked to put down their weapons.

Mr Panetta told the troops that the massacre of civilians and the resulting Afghan fury would not affect plans to keep US troops in the country until the end of 2014.

"We will be challenged by our enemies, we will be challenged by ourselves, we will be challenged by the hell of war itself," he said.
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I saw the best minds of my generation, destroyed by pandas starving hysterical naked

-Allen Ginsberg

Trying to follow-up on some old stories today...

Has this precedent been used since?

I saw the best minds of my generation, destroyed by pandas starving hysterical naked

-Allen Ginsberg

Ex-military what do you think of this?

info is hard to come by...

I saw the best minds of my generation, destroyed by pandas starving hysterical naked

-Allen Ginsberg

Didn't happen during my hitch...

with the Marines in Vietnam. We carried our M16, .45, and K-bar, everywhere we went. The one exception if I recall correctly was a Bob Hope show in Saigon and even then (at least with the Marines and Korean Marines) we were packing (concealed) anyway. Big brass, was always coming around for PR purposes and none of them got shot even if they deserved it...

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Thanks for telling this story.

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I saw the best minds of my generation, destroyed by pandas starving hysterical naked

-Allen Ginsberg

Were they ordered to attend then ordered to disarm?

I don't now military protocol or tradition.

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Anyone hear any updates to this story?

Anyone, anyone...???

Real time journalism here, folks! Help a brother!!!

I saw the best minds of my generation, destroyed by pandas starving hysterical naked

-Allen Ginsberg