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Reality Check: President Obama's Rules for Assassinating U.S. Citizens?

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Like to take naps in other peoples' boats?

you might be a terrorist...

9-11 was a panda job.

He mentioned fear

Fear is the vehicle for which all loss of liberty is derived.

The founders would be ashamed at us for what we are putting up with.


as long as it keeps us safe.

Wait, what?

The law cannot make a wicked person virtuous…God’s grace alone can accomplish such a thing.
Ron Paul - The Revolution

Setting a good example is a far better way to spread ideals than through force of arms. Ron Paul

Good to see Ben on the Front Page

I would try to post his Reality Check YT Links as soon as available, now the seeds have been planted and others are posting his message for us Liberty Loving Folks...Peace!

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There is no duration defined in the Oath

I only have TWO questions on the 'leaked' Drone-Kill list:

Why? And, why NOW??

First of all, having been around DC types, contrary to popular perception, a lot of 'leaks' aren't leaks at all. They're either calculatingly leaked by the respective regimes themselves to gauge public sentiment, or to lesson the blow, or 'leaked' by a third party to give the appearance of someone leaking it.

Rarely do honest whistleblowers really get a chance to leak any info that benefits the public.

While commendable as Daniel Ellsberg of Pentagon Papers fame maybe, he worked for RAND Corp, the non-official official, public hinktank arm of the CIA, who actually worked on Vietnam war policies himself. And, as many Nixon researchers know, it was the Ruling Class' way of simply booting him out and throwing him under the bus; they care not who's 'in charge' as long as they get to puppet him.

And more recently, it's pretty much accepted fact by now that Cheney himself 'leaked' 'intel' to several NYT 'reporters' to justify Iraq War, went on a press tour and propagandized that 'see even NYT is reporting that Iraq has WMD's!'-meme.

So, seriously, WHY was the memo leaked, frankly, like the WikiLeaks State Dept cable, while it certainly provides a written documented proof of their internal memo, nothing in there is something that those of us who have been following the Drone and NDAA issues, none of this is 'new.' Sure, the public (who don't give a sh*t about anything else as is) gets a chance to see it, and some will repeat it as if they had some geopolitical revelation at cocktail parties or at their favorite hipster cafes.

Now, even Michael Moore who openly supported and funded oBUSHma's re-election, is now calling for 'justice' in the name of the victims, from the very murderous tyrant that he supported. Um, really?? No, really, really???

But really, why? WHY was this memo 'leaked' to GE's NBC/MSDNC, the de facto MSM propaganda arm of the oBUSHma Whitehouse???

And, how many POTUS admins have you guys seen that acquiesce to public pressure from the moment a 'secret memo' is 'leaked,' in this case, just TWO days after the news??


This memo is being leaked because THEY WANTED IT LEAKED!

But why? And, why now?

'Worse' because Brennan's confirmation hearing is coming up. And remember, he's the first public oBUSHma official that made public of the fact of existence of GWB-oBUSHma's illegal UAV Unitary Executive's American Citizen Assassination Kill List!

Don't you guys think that is way too much coinkydink??

Why is this being leaked by the Admin themselves especially around the time that Brennan is about to go through the Senate crucible, making the Drone kill list a no.1 issue at the confirmation and several proceeding hearings thereafter?

So what's the effect?

1. They want to 'normalize' drone murders vs. American Citizenry?
2. Is the Ruling Class getting ready to throw the oBUSHma Admin under the bus? But what, immediately after re-(s)election that they orchestrated and fixed?
3. Is this part of Cass Sunstein's meme of introduce their own ridiculous 'conspiracies' into the public 'conspiracy blogoshere' to simply confuse and conflate... for the sole sake of confusing and conflating real facts?

All I know is this. The mere fact that oBUSHma Admin is announcing that they're doing 180 to now release the kill memo themselves, tells me 100% that this is an authorized 'leak,' under the direct auspices of the Obama White House.

And the fact that this is being leaked to the official White House MSM organ GE/Comcast's NBC/MSDNC gives them an extra 'legitimacy' cover to the liberals, because it's Rachel Madcow on TV telling them 'see, we're impartial! we're criticizing oBUSHma for illegal drone kills, now, even though we knew about it since the beginning of his 1st term! wooopieeee!'

Imagine if this was leaked to Faux News?

Any thoughts my DP peeps??

What I am pretty certain about? Tyrants don't suddenly grow a conscience or have a catharsis, suddenly, when they've been actively working to amass this much centralized power.

Predictions in due Time...

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

How about because now they have Brennen and Boehner

on the record saying they support Obama's policy of killing Americans with drones. That guarantees continued congressional funding.


But there still can be more covert reasons. Time will tell...

Predictions in due Time...

"Let it not be said that no one cared, that no one objected once it's realized that our liberties and wealth are in jeopardy." - Dr. Ronald Ernest Paul

You have some major sized

balls Ben. There is a reason the media fears this administration. Keep pounding away, justice will be served to this president. If there was ever a time the neocons got their heads out of their asses and wanted an issue to get rid of this president through impeachment, this is it.


You amazing Patriots at reality check are so brave with the NDAA such reports are grounds for inprisonment just ask chris hedges. the service you provide reveals the MSM for the charlatans that they truly are.

Tasers are Torture, Deism.com

Rules for Assassinating U.S. Citizens?

Can you imagine how our founding fathers would react if they were asked to debate these "Rules"? I'd guess whoever even dared ask them to do such a thing would be hanging from a tree in no time flat.

And why oh why are Ben's reality checks not played on the evening news nationwide? Dumb question of course...the MSM is becoming one of the most dangerous branches of our federal government. Their propaganda and lack of reporting on issues that could educate the sheeple and help keep us safe from the real terrorists who have taken control of our government clearly make all the people that work for the MSM "associated forces".

And...its raining here today. :(

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Lack of reporting

You know, I just got off the phone with my mom, and I was telling her that I've gotten much more of an education now that I'm out of school (she had mentioned something about degrees, regarding younger cousins).

I went on to say, the things about liberty I've been learning in the last year (here on this site) should be taught in schools. That they're not, means something nefarious.

The MSM is failing. The Bar Harbor Times recently shut down. Somewhat related, Saturday delivery is being cancelled (somewhat, due to the ads contained therein). They're printing money hand-over-fist and just bought enough bullets to be at war for 30 years based on the metric of highest fighting in Iraq.

They're going to lose. They know it.

They're stockpiling ammunition. When citizens stockpile ammunition, they get murdered by the government (Waco, TX, etc). So what should rightly happen when the government stockpiles ammunition?

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Me too Twelve

I've got a bachelors degree and since I lost my career job in 2009 I've educated myself online and have learned more than I did in all 16 years of formal education. Actually I think I've un-learned as much false information as I have learned new information.

IMHO the reason that so many people are waking up is because for the first time in history, a very large number of highly educated and intelligent people have become unemployed or underemployed when access to a literal world of information via the internet is at their finger tips.

Before I lost my full time job I'd get online and surf around a bit, check email and such but when I was off work...I wanted to be outside or doing something very different than what I had spent my entire day doing. (I was a network admin) During the first year after losing my job, I essentially worked for myself doing odd jobs with no standard work hours. It was during that time that I started down the rabbit hole...and that was not intentional. I began to read so many things that were inconsistent with what I had been told to be true that I had to research like crazy to separate truth from internet fairy tales. I never expected to find out how factual the saying "truth is stranger than fiction" really was.

In fact, one of the greatest hurdles I face as I spread the message of truth and liberty is getting people to believe me when I tell them something that is true but the truth is completely different than what we have all been "educated" and propagandized into believing is true. So many people dismiss things I print out or direct them to as source documentation based on the fact that "it came from the internet". I can had out actual government documents or other information pulled directly from a legitimate website and many people will still dismiss them as "creations" or manipulated documents just because they came from the internet.

However, as the MSM and government officials are increasingly telling bold faced lies to the public, a lot of people are now beginning to realize that while the internet does have a lot of stuff that is not true, the internet is the only way to actually find the real truth. Learning how to research online and learning how to validate the truth value in something you read online is a skill that takes time and effort to learn.

TV is a push technology that programs people who stare into it. It tells people what is true and most people continue to believe that if a reporter on TV says something...that makes it true. The internet on the other hand is a pull technology where you can pull information from millions of sites and by using critical thinking skills and a process of elimination you can successfully find the truth about just about anything you want...if you just take the time.

I stopped watching TV about 3 years ago and anytime I'm able to talk someone into turning off the TV for a week or more...they end spending time on the internet and in just one week they find out enough about whats really happening that even if they go back to watching TV, they see it through a very different perspective and begin to question almost everything.

I know we are at a tipping point when there will become a mass awakening but it seems like we have been at this tipping point for quite some time. Its proving to be difficult to get the ball rolling downhill using its own momentum. I expected by now that I would not have to be spending so much of my time waking people up but I work as hard (or harder) now than I did 3 years ago when I started. Good thing I enjoy spreading the message of freedom and liberty and I don't take rejection personally. Since I am always armed with the truth, when someone disses me it has no effect on me.

I view myself as a doctor that is in the middle of a plague with sick people all around. I've got a shot to cure those that want it but there is too many sick people for me to waste my time trying to give a shot to people who either don't want to get well or don't even know that they are sick. (so to speak)


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Critical thinking

Critical thinking skills are critical to understanding the world and best taking advantage of situations.

I like your description of why people are waking up. It is similar to my weeks-ago post stating that perhaps, banking will end up being the savior of the human race -- because by taking 90% of our productivity, we've been forced to increase technology, and now we can get off the planet before the sun expands to Earth's orbit. Similarly, if they hadn't taken so much that us educated had some time (myself a few months last summer -- you nailed it) to filter and learn the truth, they wouldn't have such a problem on their hands.

So on the one hand they're potentially our saviors; and at the same time, they create their own downfall.

It amazes me just how deep the rabbit holes go. You mentioned hurdles; it is difficult for me because there is so much backstory to know before one can incorporate the next bit. So talking to people at work about the LAPD cop who is shooting other cops, and they start talking gun control, well there's a whole history behind the second amendment and that it's not granting us rights, it's saying the government cannot touch our natural rights; natural rights that everyone has, not just Americans. Anyway the other day someone was gently poking fun at me, saying I had "drunk the kool-aid", and I told them that nobody at Jonestown actually drank kool-aid, that it was a CIA mass murder. He at least agreed to look it up, but yeah, the rabbit holes go so deep it's amazing we can see sunshine far above.

And sunshine is the best disinfectant.

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Without a trial, how can anyone say the father "deserved to die" either?

If a mafia copo can put out a hit so can a CEO

of the USA CORP. We just dress it up with fancy words like. Justice department memo. Exective privilage. Protection from terrrrrorrrrrissssts. Hate to call a spade a spade, (card suit) but Its just a crime system. Please US GOV I want to opt out of anything to do with your corporate functions. Please do not protect me any more.


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Slippery slope

It starts here it ends with someone like Richard Nixon establishing a domestic kill list. This is a major problem it needs to be thrown off the books by Congress. Were it not for 9/11 I think this would reach impeachment level discussion in at least the House... the whole concept is nuts. Where is Al Queda? Give me a goddamn break. Some wackos spent 20 years planning to use airports to destroy the WTC and now we are living in a god damn police state. This needs to be addressed by Congress as being a violation of executive power. Here is why the judicial branch can't address it: The victims are dead.


As always. Bump

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Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

Like Ben said, we have been

talking about this for awhile. Only since the memo was leaked has the MSM finally picked up on the story but they refuse to mention the son being murdered. I didn't realize that these were two seperate killings. How in the world do they justify killing the boy?

I speculate

the boy had some inside information. THAT was enough for this administration to take action and shut the boy up for life. Unless anyone knows anything different ill stand firm that knowledge IS power and indeed; the true currency of democracy. scary to speculate if a 16 your boy can be killed for having information then what picture does that paint for the millions of Americans who know information this administration would love to shut up as well.

you dont need to revoke the 1st Amendment when you have a kill list, but in order to succeed you have to remove the 2nd.

No body panics when things go according to "plan", even if the plan is horrifying... nobody panics because its all "part of the plan" ~Joker

His name is Edward Snowden

What is Capitalism?

They tried

to infer that he was collateral damage from the first assasination. We found out it was a separate attack later. Now they just don't talk about it.

its the 16yo's fault

Just ask the rulers mouthpiece. Disgusting.

The 16 year old's murder was

The 16 year old's murder was acceptable because he should have had a more responsible father, accd to Gibbs.

The follow-up question should have been "and exactly how do children choose more responsible fathers?"

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