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Gary Johnson's "our America" Wants Us To Die Defending Israel! Horrific!

I just wanted to donate money to "OUR AMERICA" a so called 'LIBERTARIAN' website/initiative with Gary Johnson as the Chairman.

Just to make sure I wanted to read their positions on the issues before donating.

Under DEFENSE I read this:

"We support the right of Israel to exist as a sovereign country and believes that the United States should protect that right militarily if needed."

WHAT!?

Gov. takes my money and my kids life against my will to fight wars for foreign countries, no even better - one foreign coutry - ISRAEL!

THAT IS NOT LIBERTARIAN!

Is "OUR AMERICA" A MOLE in the Liberty movement?

I encourage everyone to contact Gary Johnson with questions about this!

This is important!

For peace!

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Thanks Granger,

I don't know much about Dr. Carson.

Me neither.

Other than the breakfast speech and the few posts on this site.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

Gary's schedule is on Facebook

http://www.facebook.com/govgaryjohnson/events?ref=ts

Tuesday, February 12, 2013 at 3 p.m. PST / 6 p.m EST, Gov. Gary Johnson will host a Reddit AMA or "Ask Me Anything."

The 60-minute on-line event will give participants a chance to ask the former New Mexico Governor and Honorary Chairman of the Our America Initiative questions via the popular website, Reddit.com.

To ask a question, visit www.reddit.com at 3 p.m. PST / 6 p.m EST, Tuesday, and just search "Gov. Gary Johnson".

http://ouramericainitiative.com/issues

you people crack me up

Gary Johnson may not be perfect but that dude was light years better than Obamney. People in the liberty movement seriously need to stop expecting to agree 100% with every candidate.. on a side note.. F Israel.

I made 3 statements in this

I made 3 statements in this post being downvoted.. I'm curious which part i'm being downvoted for..

1- Gary Johnson was way better than Obamney
2- You should not expect to agree 100% with every candidate
3- F Israel

If you are going to down vote would imply you disagree with what i'm saying. So do you guys think Gary Johnson is the same as Obama and Romney? Do you really REALLY expect to agree with the candidate you vote for 100%? Or do you love Israel?

Just because someone could be worse

doesn't mean you can't/shouldn't criticize their position on one issue. Just because someone is pointing out a flaw in his position doesn't even mean they won't vote for him. Supposedly, the way representative politics works is that the people lobby politicians to more closely mirror their own positions. Personally, I think GJ is probably a good guy, but he's too far off the mark on foreign policy and economics to ever get my vote.

Tu ne cede malis sed contra audentior ito

I have no issues pointing out

I have no issues pointing out someones policy short comings but to dismiss a candidate because you disagree on 2-5% of their message is silly.

I disagree with a lot more than 5%

I was just saying that criticizing one of his positions isn't a bad thing, and I don't think individual issues are typically make or break for most people anyways. If someone agrees with 95% of what he says and would like to vote him in and work on the other 5% after the fact, they're welcome to do that. I do agree that no man will ever find a politician he agrees with on everything.

Tu ne cede malis sed contra audentior ito

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at least obamney had their own message.

fools who believe GJ would have been ANY different then what we have RIGHT NOW are seriously misled and FOOLISH.

GJ IS establishment sent to mislead confused libs and IT WORKED! lol
GJ is just another side of the rotten establishment FACE!

"OH NO! He has a SON?" Neoconservatives and Liberals EVERYWHERE!

Rand Paul 2016

I think his record while

I think his record while governor would speak to the contrary on fiscal responsibility. His foreign policy was iffy but would have been a serious improvement over the last 10 years. Only 4 candidates stood a shot at winning electoral college.. Gary Johnson was the best candidate running with enough ballot access to actually win.

Do you have a link?

I found a link (not sure if it's his but I think this is consistent from what I've heard from GJ) where he basically has Ron Paul's positions (at least on these 2 points):

http://www.ontheissues.org/gary_johnson.htm

Cut all support and aid to Israel. (May 2012)

Let Israel deal with Iranian nukes; not US role to tell them. (Aug 2011)

Unfortunately, it is real:

http://ouramericainitiative.com/issues/defense-and-the-middl...

And his mug is on the front page, but I can't find any "proof" or confirmation that he approved this site.

There's also a Wikipedia article on the group: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_America_Initiative

Though his FB page mentions he is their honorary chairman: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=our%20america%20gary%...

What cracks me up though is this from Google's synopsis:

Regardless of potential sources will begin Buy Cheap Viagra Generic Buy Cheap Viagra Generic to tide you out. It will have decided on cash and loans pay day ...

I checked the page source and right there at the top is this garbage. I don't know if they've been hacked, or if they employed a shady SEO company. I think it's a hoot.

When can we get real

When can we get real Libertarians to take back the party?
How dare you question "our" America?
You are either with us, or you are against us.

Good find - never was sure

Good find - never was sure how to way up GJ, but if that is the case he will never have my support.

Thank goodness

many in the RP camp didn't fall for that shyster.

"If this mischievous financial policy [greenbacks], which has its origin in North America, should become endurated down to a fixture, then that government will furnish its own money without cost. It will pay off its debts and be without debts. It will hav

Unbelievable!

such a position is against the U.S. constitution, against libertarian concept, against common sense...

hard to believe Gary would put his name under it. Did he read it?

Gerald Mangold

Maybe it was like the "Ron Paul newsletters".

Just sayin'.