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From time to time I still come back to work on this clunky old Dell / Windows 7 desktop. The sad thing is that it is only two years old. It can't read my catalog of Type 1 fonts; I converted them to .otf, but I still have to reinstall them every time I want to use one, and I have no idea why. The fonts that are installed look crappy, and I don't know how to fix them. I had to buy a new printer and a new scanner when I "upgraded" from my Windows XP system that I had for 5 years. That was a far superior system to this one. This one, the disk drive is always running - doing something. Making noise. I have to shut it down to avoid hearing it.

I still prefer my 5 year old Macbook pro to this machine. It is much faster. This thing is so slow, and it is only two years old. And Windows 8? Forget it? I don't think I'll ever buy another Microsoft machine again.

// End rant.

I won't be so vain as to tag this a "DP Original." It isn't worthy. While you're at it vote it down (unless you agree). I should have written a post on how much I still love my beat up old Macbook pro - the one with the broken speakers.

Over and out.

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Those are all really great

Those are all really great points.

About virtualization, we've actually finished P2V on all our client servers about a year ago except a select few and it's been beautiful. We're rolling out virtual desktop 'cloud' and that'll get even better as we get more people on it. I'm picturing a day when we're never restoring system images, but reverting snapshots. Even minor fixes may be as simple as reverting a snapshot to an hour ago... or whatever.

This basically will make Windows desktop OS's pointless. I really see your point there. Thank you.

Update: I just installed Ubuntu on a VM. This is very mac styled. I do really like it so far.

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For the curious, one can even train themselves with command line

For the curious, one can even train themselves with command line Linux from within any modern browser, these days, without installing anything of it on whatever box:

http://bellard.org/jslinux

Tech Notes here ** :
http://bellard.org/jslinux/tech.html

And reverse-engineered there:
https://github.com/levskaya/jslinux-deobfuscated#readme

** and yes: it even runs emacs, the C compiler, linker, etc. Now, that's a "sandbox" :)

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

It just needs some attention

Your computer probably just needs some attention.

Try .ttf fonts. Also, Type 1 should work.

It sounds like your hard disk is "thrashing". Probably your pagefile is set to a funky size or you may even have malware. Set the virtual memory to the system recommended size for min and max. It should be the same. Don't let Windows manage it. Set it manually.

Try a check disk and a SMART disk check as well. Your hard drive manufacturer will have some kind of disk tools to run. You probably have WD or Seagate drives which do have manufacturer tests you can download.

Run malwarebytes and combofix.

If you have many antivirus things running (malwarbytes, spybot, norton, windows defender, trend micro), stop all but your antivirus from running in the background. They fight like kids in the back seat.

Dell makes very good computers. There's no reason yours shouldn't run just fine. If you message me, I don't mind giving the daily paul a little free tech support.

Solutions for your Dell.

#1 - Wipe Win7 and install a suitable version of Linux.

Your mileage will vary here, and yes, printer compatibility and other add-ons are a consideration, but not terribly so. The most likely place to see a hardware hangup here is in new network cards or some odd device that needs a special driver. No fear, the issue is usually easily fixable with a little patience.

Some Linux systems are VERY user friendly. Some are definitely NOT for the novice. Ask around for opinions if you are interested. My vote in order would be - Ubuntu - Mint - openSuse.

Also, different Linux "distributions" or flavors as they are called, have different requirements. Most likely if your Dell is only 2 years old, just about any one would do, but as with any OS, depending on your specs, you may eventually hit a limit on upgrading vs. performance.

#2 - Wipe Win7 and have someone install a "slimmed down" XP for you.

Yes, yes, people will hogtie me for this, but it is a viable solution.

For starters, you are familiar with it. That's a plus.

Second, it's as mature as it is ever going to get "bug" wise.

Third, as its market share dwindles, it will cease to be a target of hackers with malware. That doesn't mean you are in the clear, just that eventually, you won't see near as much, and it might not even run on that OS anymore. (doubtful, but hey, we can dream right?)

Also, a slimmed down XP is really a snappy system without all the cruft. Now, note I did say have someone do this for you. You can tackle it yourself, but you'll need to do a lot of homework on what each OS file does and know if you really need it or not. Most don't want to go through all that education. Heck, a new computer is cheaper depending on how much you value your time.

#3 - Have someone set up a slimmed down Win7 for you.

I've never done it, but I'm sure it's no more of an issue, and likely even easier than XP to accomplish.

At the very least, visiting http://blackviper.com and reading over his pages on turning off unneeded Windows services will show you how to speed up your computer considerably.

#4 - Stick with what you have, but do the following:

Back up your data.

Make sure you have install discs for all 3rd party needed software.

Wipe the drive and re-install Win7 with your OEM discs. (didn't get them? Call Dell and DEMAND them, they were supposed to give them to you. You might also be able to burn them off a hidden partition on the drive)

Be sure to leave off the junk you don't need installed like trial software.

Turn off all visual effects and themes. (included in BlackViper's tutorials)

You won't end up with the prettiest OS, but it will run smoothly as it can.

Be sure to defrag often. Set a task to do it once a week if you use the thing for more than a few hours each day and do lots of web browsing or document work. (this is true of ANY Windows system)

Finally, you may simply have a bad drive, or just a slow one.

There are tests in Windows you can run to check drive health.

I would recommend no less than a 7200 RPM drive if using a standard HD. Otherwise, as suggested below, switch to a solid state drive as your main drive, and keep the current one as extra storage or backup. This way too, you don't need a really large SDD. You just need one big enough to hold Windows, your own programs, and maybe a few gigs of personal files. You can always swap them out with the other drive if need be. This will keep your upgrade cost down as SDD are not cheap.

Good luck.

Hardware vs Software

Before people go complaining about one computer system over another, they should really know the difference between hardware and software. If you go and say things like "Oh my Dell with Windows is so slow compared to my MAC", it does not make for a very intelligent sounding argument.
My first impression is that they are trying to start a trolling flame war, however based on the author of this article I doubt that is the case. I am going to assume that it is more of an ignorance as to how one actually compares computers. Many people seem to get caught up in all the various marketing schemes that the various large companies go about. The truth is that all the guts of any computers come from the same variety of manufacturers; this is the hardware.

When you talk about a MAC computer or a Dell computer you are just using their custom configuration of hardware. If you are having harddrive noise issues that would not be Dell or Apples fault; it would be the harddrive manufacturer's. When you purchase a computer from Apple, Dell or any computer system retailer, they will tell you what hardware they have. If you have any brand anti-loyalty to the individual components it is your fault for choosing that specific system configuration from the system assembler.

When you compare computer systems speeds it is primarily based upon you specific hardware configuration, but software also plays a little bit of a role. Your operating system, OS, is that software that runs on top of your hardware. Technically you can run the MAC OS on your Dell's hardware system or Windows on your MAC hardware system. For many people that is a total shocker, but in this day and age hardware is pretty standardized. I have shown MAC OS fanboys that they can run OSX on their non Apple approved hardware for way cheaper. Apple takes advantage of the ignorance of its userbase. Also on that note. MACs (their OS) are not immune from viruses. More marketing lies! Malware in MACs is especially pervasive due to this naïve assumption. No operating system is ultimately immune from all malware and that is just a silly claim. Do you want to be safe, then use protection. Each OS has different security models, making each OS less or more secure depending on how they work.

If you want to be an Apple fanboy, kudos to you. In a true libertarian philisophy, each person has their own desires and different products can meet each inidividuals desires. There is no right tool. But if you are going to make comparisons on speed or performance of various computer systems in an intelligent manner, please take into account the real factors that account for those performance characteristics. If you don't understand all these nuances, good luck arguing your case with anyone about your computers' performance without out sounding like a flame war troll.

Different tools for different people (incoming Linux plug)...
However I personally use a variety of Linux's and would heavily recommend people to explore all their availably options. I never have to shut down my Linux systems ever as they can do all their security updates without a reboot and automatically. The built in default security model of Linux is also compariativly more secure than the default security of other OS's. Did I mention Linux is free.


Your's is a failure to see the forrest for the trees.

Yes, hardware and software are separate issues.

That is irrelevant, AND SHOULD BE, to the end user.

It matters not if your Dell is spec'd to the hilt.

Slap a Windoze OS on it and take an identical box and slap Linux on it, and it's no contest.

The Windoze box will live down to its hype. It will wheeze, and hiss, and whine, and churn and chug and take forever just to let you make your first click, not to mention do anything else. And this will even seriously degrade in short order after a few months to a year or so of use.

That Linux system though will just keep happily zipping along like the first day you fired it up.

Same goes for Mac OS X systems.

Of course, one can always muck things up with poorly written 3rd party software, or upgrading to newer OS versions that are barely within the limits of now aging hardware, but that's not the same thing as an original configuration like what I'm speaking of above.

The point the OP is making without knowing it maybe, and that someone apparently so experienced as you should know, is that M$ operating systems are NOTORIOUS for being sluggish and crummy - OUT OF THE BOX. Yes, I know all about how to "slim down" XP. After learning how to do so, I sill prefer Linux and Mac. (I'm not even touching Win7 or 8. Why bother?)

I've had more printing issues with Windows anything than Linux or Mac. (effectively NO issues at all, save one 15 year old printer, which doesn't work with Win7 either not-coincidentally)

Software in short, can render a super spec'd hardware choice perfectly pointless.

M$ is skilled at it.

Of course, not all of the blame is theirs.

Sure, their OS is crummy and tries to perform too many memory swaps, no matter HOW much memory you really have, thus causing that "noisy" hard drive problem.

But the bigger culprits are the behemoth anti-virus monitors that more closely resemble something designed by the TSA. (yes, there are AV programs for Linux and Mac, they are tiny and don't hog resources and no, those systems are not immune, but in 7 years of dealing with them, never once had an issue. I've had countless on Windows systems.)

Then there are the dime a dozen 3rd party apps for useless stuff that are full of memory leaks, the worst of which come pre-installed as "trials" that you forever and a day can't figure out how to fully uninstall. Those are the fault of the OEMs like Dell who sell you the hardware with that crummy OS bundled to it.

This also brings up the little known issue of having to periodically re-install Windows based OSes just so they'll function again. Most people don't know that solution. Instead, they just buy a new computer because the old one (2 years old) is "slow."

The best thing any new computer owner can do, is completely reinstall their OS upon first turning it on, and either skip all optional software, and/or remove anything not explicitly desired other than the OS, and then build up from there.

Of course, that is beyond most consumers.

Which brings us back to the first point.

It is irrelevant if hardware or software is the problem.

The consumer wants something that works, and that they don't have to keep replacing or buying new stuff for that formerly worked.

The advantage there goes to Apple. Why? Because their hardware is tested and certified to be compatible with their software. Does that mean zero problems? Of course not. Parts break. Some are made poorly on the assembly line. Accidents happen. But odds are, a Mac, if kept in it's original state, save for the usual user end software, will perform 5 or maybe even 10 years from now, just as good as the day you bought it.

The same can ABSOLUTELY not be said for Windows based systems.

(Linux can hold the same claim, but hardware compatibility can be a nightmare if you are unlucky)

I am no fanboy of either Mac or Linux. I've used all three. (among others) But I can say I certainly am a detractor of Windows after 21+ years of experience with it.

Fallacy of Division

 

Hardware and software are separate issues. [This] is irrelevant, AND SHOULD BE, to the end user.

I completely disagree with this statement. Any good consumer should know about the major ingredients to whatever it is that they are purchasing in order to make the most informed decision. If you do not have an understanding of these ingredients then your ability to compare the final system will be weak. If you have a poor understanding of your argument then others will see right through it for its lack of validity. This is known as the fallacy of division.

It is irrelevant if hardware or software is the problem.

How is it irrelevant? If a certain hardware or a certain software do not fit your needs, then you should look at alternatives. Because they are seperable entities, you should be able to examine each individually as to not falsely conclude both are inferior just because they are bundled.

[Microsoft OS's] seriously degrade in short order after a few months to a year or so of use... Mac, if kept in it's original state, save for the usual user end software, will perform 5 or maybe even 10 years from now, just as good as the day you bought it.

I feel that it is necessary to defend Microsoft here because that is simple not the case, and a false observation by many users of this OS. The OS itself does not just slow down because you use it over time. This is more flame wars and propaganda supporting a pro Mac, anti MS agenda without merit.

Then there are the dime a dozen 3rd party apps for useless stuff that are full of memory leaks.

All OS's are potentially susceptable to this problem. It is not just a Microsoft issues my any means. I therefore find even bringing up 3rd party apps completely irrelevant to this argument.

[Linux] hardware compatibility can be a nightmare if you are unlucky

It really has nothing to do with luck. As the consumer you should be able to figure out what is and what isn't supported for whatever operating system you are running, and Linux is no exception. In my experience every single piece of hardware that said it will work with Linux, does. Also, less relavent, every piece of hardware that did not clarify if it worked with Linux also did, it was just my responsibility as the user to figure out how.

M$ operating systems are NOTORIOUS for being sluggish and crummy - OUT OF THE BOX.

Microsoft doesn't just make home user operating systems. I would argue that for many who use Microsoft operating systems as their servers, have chosen them because of their performance with the given toolset that they use.

I am no Microsoft OS fanboy, but I will defend for the false acusations against it. My argument was quite simple: if you are going to criticize a system, you should be careful not to over generalize in projecting your specific problems to all instances, lest you incite flame wars and sound ignorant.


Look, I think consumers should be better informed in any case.

And Mr. Nystrom is certainly above your "average user."

But that doesn't change the fact that people selling a product ARE selling a bundled product.

Your phone is hardware and software. Do people care if it's one or the other that makes it not work right? No. It is a single device. It should work as advertised and expected, or it isn't worth their time or money to fiddle with. If I worked for Samsung, YES, I'd have a fallacy of division. But I'm not talking from that perspective.

The same can be said for your cable box, your DVR, your game console, your TV, and any number of devices with "embedded" operating systems on them.

Does it matter to the end consumer if the hardware or software is the culprit?

No, and it shouldn't. The "device" as a whole was sold as a whole and it doesn't work.

If you own a Chrysler minivan, and the transmission keeps having to be replaced, do you give a rats butt that it's a bad transmission from company XYZ or do you just not want a Chrysler any more? If Chrysler is notorious for packaging inferior transmissions in their minivans, does it matter that the rest of the car is fine? No. Buy a Chrysler minivan - get junk. Hell, maybe there's nothing wrong with the transmission they install. Maybe it's the van's computer that can't properly shift the transmission because the software sucks.

Does that matter? Only to Chrysler engineers and management.

To the end consumer, all that matters is a van that doesn't need to have the transmission replaced every three years, and that drives as expected.

There is no fallacy of division here from a consumer perspective.

Yes, by dividing the question you MIGHT be able to match up two separate things on your own and come out with a working product that suits you - like someone buying a Dell, wiping it, and installing Ubuntu on it.

But your "average" computer buyer is NOT a computer tinkerer. They are buying an "appliance." If you get that straight, you'll understand why what you are asking is out of bounds of reasonable expectations. This is a failure of manufacturers to put out quality products. The consumer is not at fault for not being technically savvy enough to build their own damned machine.

Not coincidentally, this is why Apple is so successful. They take this responsibility and try to meet it. They don't push it off on "uneducated consumers."

Slowdowns

If Windows doesn't slow down over time, then why does a fresh install, with all the same files work lightyears faster than the same system merely defragmented?

The technical answer is because of the file system used, Windows is prone to having its system files corrupted over time. This is known to happen and WHY you have to fresh install periodically depending on usage. This is not a myth. To be sure, NTFS is better than FAT, but neither one is nearly as robust as a journaled file system. No file system is perfect, but MS's stinks. Again, another issue the end user doesn't need to know about and most never will. Their computer just needs to work.

3rd party apps

Yes, any OS can have this problem. The reason it is more of a problem on Windows is the Windows eco system is closed sourced, as are most apps for it. Thus memory leaks are less likely to get fixed there then on a Linux system.

More importantly though, is that MS OEMs are notorious for bundling trial software and "rebate" type junk that serves no real benefit to the end user, but instead, brings his brand new system to a crawl. I've uninstalled more of this junk than I care to count. All of it on MS systems. I've never had to remove "bloatware" from a Mac or a Linux system.

Compatibility

What I meant by "unlucky" was being unfortunate enough to have a CURRENT hardware setup that isn't compatible. As noted, sometimes, some things like this or that odd printer, scanner, camera, video, or network card just isn't supported, or the support is in an alpha stage at best. Your snobbishness that everyone is dealing with a brand new system is a failing here. My comment about Linux here was specifically to the crowd that already has the hardware and is contemplating switching to Linux from Windows. Presently, they have drivers for everything and it "works." That may not be the case when they change OSes. And they might be "unlucky" enough that no matter the Linux distro, they'll have to use some command line judo to get it all working right.

And if you pipe in with something to the effect that consumers should reasonably expected to be comfortable with the command line, you can just stop talking right there and end this conversation because that is completely over the top. No they should not. I grant you though, that someone switching to Linux should be given the warning that it might happen. This is why I made this comment.

Other versions of Windows

I'll have to defer on this one.

I've never used a server version of Windows.

Perhaps those are better off the bat.

I guess MS cares less about their large consumer base than their business base.

But we weren't discussing servers now were we?

The context is pretty clear in the thread, that we're discussing Win7 consumer editions.

My accusations are not false. They are observations borne of experience and research into the problems. This is far more than most consumers will ever do, or should be expected to do.

I know very well not to generalize. But I also comprehend public perception about products, which is prone to such thinking.

My point was, you can't blame the consumer for being uneducated. If you want, educate him, but don't chastise him for it.

The chastisement lies squarely with MS and the OEMs (Dell in this case) and really, can ultimately be laid at the feet of MS alone, because MANY of the problems described ARE a result of bad software. (the OS in particular) And quite frankly, MS, with their strong arm tactics over the 90s, deserves every bit of this blowback.

And finally, if you don't want to flame, then don't. If you can't handle someone offering a criticism that doesn't go into every nuance and detail, then simply do not read it and move on. But I think I've entertained way more detail than most flamewars I've seen in my day for such a surface level topic.

Upgrade to a solid state drive

no matter the operating system, its fast/snappy and no noise.

I just upgraded my Mac

I was recently using a circa ~2003 G4 tower with dual 800MHz processors (woohoo!!!) as a media center in my den. When it started acting up, rather than track down the problem, I hit craigslist and scored a dual core 2.3GHz G5 tower from 2005 for $90, and a 24" Gateway LCD monitor for $79. There's no "Intel" inside, it's fast as heck, it plays 780p videos flawlessly, and it is quiet as a mouse.

After getting it set up, I figured out that the G4 just had a bad stick of RAM, so now it's in the spare room as secondary media center. And it was only $120 with a super cool old school 24" Apple monitor...

OLD MACS ROCK!!!

Micheal, it's not that

Micheal, it's not that Microsoft has failed you, more like Dell has. Microsoft has to work with a multitude of partners, and the partners most of the time never listen to Microsoft advice when making their PC.

The best advice I always give people when they buy a Windows PC is to directly get it from Microsoft Store. It will cost a little bit more, but Microsoft Store sell their signature PCs free of bloatwares, which 99% of time time solves all the problem of drivers errors and all kind of unnecessary problems the OEMs create.

The font you have converted probably has issues, why don't you get the original ttf format? It will work well with Windows.

The hard drive noise could be due to poor noise isolation of the desktop. But it could also be a problem with bloatwares running in the background. I highly suggest you do a clean install to get rid of horrible bloatwares.

Best advice for a kid

Linux. don't mess w/windows or macs.

-quiet engineer

If you are a tinkerer, yes.

If you are a tinkerer, yes. If you just want to do your work, get a Mac.

Modern Linux in some forms is effectively "there" for the

common user.

Yes, there are still problems. But one could also have a great experience with no hassles.

However, if one is tech averse, or has no family or friends as "tech support" then Linux is not the way to go.

Some will never be able to afford a Mac. For those, there is Linux. Either you'll pay in a little extra time fixing this or that odd problem you may or may not encounter. Or you pay for the whole system up front.

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Try Knoppix!

Simple and easy way to run Linux. No installation needed. Just boot off the dvd and you're up and running. It won't touch your hard drive. Tons of high quality open source sw on it.

I ran Linux this way for months before I got courageous enough to wipe M$ Windoze off my machine. That was about ten years ago.

No more planned obsolence, viruses, malware, adware, driver problems, sw constantly checking for unneeded "updates", and the ever increasing bloat that brings many machines to their knees.

And it's free. Free as in beer, but also free as in freedom. No ridiculous EULAs.

Google is government.

Honestly I've never tried it, but I do know many flavors

of Linux do issue "live cd's" or "dvd's" and many can now be run from USB keys as well.

This is the best and safest way to try out Linux for sure. (note, these live versions are NOT going to be as fast as an installed system. But they can show you if you'll have hardware compatibility issues up front.)

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Nice. Interesting.

Thanks for the tip.

To be mean is never excusable, but there is some merit in knowing that one is; the most irreparable of vices is to do evil out of stupidity. - C.B.

Dell builds some crappy

Dell builds some crappy computer parts (well...actually assembles) and installs all sorts of bloatware onto Windows. They do make some decent machines, but most people that have Dell problems buy their crap.

I loaded Windows onto my wife's macbook pro using Boot Camp which will allow you to boot into Mac or Microsoft operating system. Best of both worlds....quality hardware and the option to boot into either operating system you want. Apple spends money on their hardware, many (or most) PC manufacturers don't (though some do). To be honest, windows 7 runs faster on my wife's macbook than mac os x.....I know I know, you won't believe me, but it does.

I build my own desktops because it's easy, but I always buy the cheapest laptops I can get my hands on, install a SSD, and call it good. My current 12" laptop cost $230 + $60 for the SSD, and is feather light. My wife's macbook pro is great but cost her boss $2000. I like the macbook, but not for about $1700 more.

if i have the extra cash to blow....disposable electronics is not where i want to spend it.

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Dell doesn't even assemble them

They outsource them to Foxconn - Suicide Central of the Asian subcontractors.

And yes, I heard that the best machine for running Windows is - ironically - the Mac.

To be mean is never excusable, but there is some merit in knowing that one is; the most irreparable of vices is to do evil out of stupidity. - C.B.

It may have changed since the company was founded, but

my understanding was the only thing Dell ever made was the sticker on the case. (likely outsourced I'm sure though)

Originally, they didn't even stock a thing. (if they do now)

They were a middleman.

You used their website to spec out your computer with desired parts, they'd have it "assembled" for you, slap a "Dell" sticker on it, and have it shipped to you. After of course, you gave them your Credit Card number. So they didn't even pay for anything until you paid THEM.

I think they are a bit more of a traditional business model now though.

Right now just above this...

Is a fucking "windows 8" ad. Really? Thank you for the loss of intelligence this evening guys. But I have to go. Common sense does not seem to abound here at this time,Take care.

If I disappear from a discussion please forgive me. My 24-7 business requires me to split mid-sentence to serve them. I am not ducking out, I will be back later to catch up.

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Just FYI

It takes me 5 - 10 times longer to post a comment, or edit a post on this 2 year old Dell / Win 7 system than on my 6 year old MacBook Pro.

I hate working on this thing.

Sorry. I don't like to use such strong language. But it is true. There is no reason for this. See the video above.

To be mean is never excusable, but there is some merit in knowing that one is; the most irreparable of vices is to do evil out of stupidity. - C.B.

Macs rock

Macs rock

Mike, I tried to find how to

Mike, I tried to find how to send you a private message but I couldn't. Why did my impeachment post get banned or whatever? I am only asking because I don't know why. I'm not arguing it until I get a reason why. So, I guess I'm just asking what was wrong with it?

Thanks, Bud

CPU/RAM

out of curiosity.. what CPU is in your Dell and how much RAM is installed?

Michael Nystrom's picture

I don't know

I turned it off. I couldn't stand it. But it was top of the line two years ago. Big mistake buying that thing. I should have stuck with my XP system.

Wife tells me Windows Pro has an "emulator" so you can "emulate" XP. Whatever. I'm done.

To be mean is never excusable, but there is some merit in knowing that one is; the most irreparable of vices is to do evil out of stupidity. - C.B.

dumbfounded

I've always considered Windows an OS for people who like options. So I'm using 5GB out of 16GB of memory right now with my 20 instances(tabs) of chrome running, along with Outlook and Excel. XP being 32bit, would be crapping out at 3GB of usage due to its architecture limitation of 3GB. The problem with Windows.. is it works on pretty much all hardware from all vendors, even Mac.. this allows for a plethora of cheap sh!tty PC's to flood the market with under powered hardware.. which consumers being generally uninformed, buy and complain that their machines aren't fast enough..

I blame the manufactures for selling machines which leave the consumer disheartened due to the "if it's being sold on the shelf.. it must be good enough for me" mentality which requires as little thought as possible. Apple has succeeded with great magnitude capitalizing on this mentality, and it's paid off.

Mean while, no complaints here from my 17" 3D, RAIDed SSD, 16GB of RAM, gaming laptop which I put together for under $2k 15months ago. But, i'm a tech by trade and like this stuff.

By the way.. All my windows

By the way.. All my windows systems I build I put XP on them.... It is MUCH MUCH Better than anything after it. But windows 95 and 98 were the best.

Gilligan's picture

Absolutely right.

It's been downhill ever since '98.

Google is government.