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Many DailyPaul Members Have Become NEOCONS

and/or hypocrites.

I would say that I hope that it works out for you, but then I would be lying.



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Concern troll

is concerned... awww

"If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom — go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, an

lolol

The "troll" card has been used so much its lost all original meaning on the DP. Essentially everyone that has an opposing view is considered a troll.

How is that?

Trolling
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This is a garbage post

This is a garbage post with the intent to defame. This tactic is typical of the tribe that own the msm.

As for Neocons.

The Neoconservative Revolution: Jewish Intellectuals and the Shaping of Public Policy
http://www.amazon.com/The-Neoconservative-Revolution-Intelle...
http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2011/10/neocons-and-the...

Although I'd rather read The Culture of Critique by Kevin MacDonald. Or maybe the Jewish Utopia by Michael Higger.

Proud American First. More like Israhell first

Luke 3:38
Isaiah 43:3-5

Using a classification

Of a political ideology is now considered defamation? So, calling Romney a liberal is defamation?

I said

the intent was.

dictionary.reference.com/browse/defame

Much like accusing others of actions one is guilty of.

Doesn't change the fact "Neocons" is a Jewish construct.

Luke 3:38
Isaiah 43:3-5

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Proud American First

You don't want Rand?

I don't want Rand.

However, the tricky thing is that the people who want Rand have a plan. People like you and I do not seem to have a plan.

Do you have a plan on how to change the situation sir? I have a plan, however it was pbr and insomnia fueled so I fear it could potentially have some flaws.

I would love to hear your plan on how to change the situation if you have a minute. It might be better than my plan.

I look forward to hearing back from you.

Way to be bold.

“I like nonsense, it wakes up the brain cells. Fantasy is a necessary ingredient in living.”
― Dr. Seuss

He does have a plan, he's already mentioned it.

Promote Amash.

Here's the thing.. The only reason "we don't have a plan yet" is because nobody has stood up with enough clout to run, so "my plan" is to be patient while I busy myself with other endeavors that promote Liberty. Plenty of groups to get involved with that need our help.

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Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.

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Promote Amash

My plan was to promote the judge. Either way though. I don't think people around here understand what I mean when I say promote though, I'm not talking about bringing his name up occasionally. I am talking about hitting the ground running.

"Plenty of groups to get involved with that need our help" Absolutely. I'm doing my part there, yet again in a way that I don't think people understand.

I see waiting patiently, but lately I have come to realize that the Rand people are steps ahead of me and I don't like being so far behind when I start that I don't have a chance.

You know how people say "Rand CAN win." Fine. Maybe he can. I say the judge CAN win. He can win if I (and hopefully others) set him up nicely. And even if he doesn't win, I'll feel much better if I try.

Should I edit my "way to be bold" comment? I actually meant that, I enjoy the bold words, he was being bold. Does it come off as sarcasm?

“I like nonsense, it wakes up the brain cells. Fantasy is a necessary ingredient in living.”
― Dr. Seuss

Yes I would edit it if I were you. :)

I like bold words to as long as they're backed by bold actions, otherwise they're all talk.

I'm a Nap man myself. I want someone to carry on the same message as Dr.Paul.. the same message I have believed in for as long as I can remember.

It doesn't matter if they're "ahead" of us because it could turn out that they've jumped the gun. My plan however is simply to wait patiently and watch while I work on other things. I know that doesn't sound like a great plan but I won't be running for president so, what else can I do. I can't order flyers for Nap2016 can I? I suppose I could but I don't like wasting my time or spinning wheels. I want some sort of nod from him that he's thinking about it.

See the thing is.. I think Rand stepped out like he did already because he knew that Nap and his Dad probably wouldn't run against him or in his Dad's case, talked with him and said "You've had your 3 shots, now let me".. :)

I understand, the desire to get going, but I want my actions to count, so I spend my energy on certain groups. I am making a difference there I think.

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Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.

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Sigh, when I use sarcasm around here people don't get me. When I am being serious people don't get me. I am misunderstood.

I come off as meek around here, I am pretty bold in the real world and I am beginning to wonder if people around here (not so much Proud American First just people in general) are just talking or if some of them are actually walking.

When I make Judge Nap 2016 flyers I'll send you some lol

I really don't plan on throwing my support behind anyone yet, I am just trying to point out to the Rand people that it is silly to commit to someone this early. Hell, he might even turn around and spend the next 4 years impressing me, but why commit right now?

For some reason I cannot edit the comment. Oh well, if he reads this he will know I was not trying being offensive.

I am going to go take over a jukebox somewhere and pretend none of this matters. As always, have a good evening.

“I like nonsense, it wakes up the brain cells. Fantasy is a necessary ingredient in living.”
― Dr. Seuss

Poor you.. need a hug? :)

My comment was a joke. I really was hoping you'd try to change it because you would have gotten 403'd since I had responded already. :)

"I come off as meek around here, I am pretty bold in the real world and I am beginning to wonder if people around here (not so much Proud American First just people in general) are just talking or if some of them are actually walking."

That's too bad.. I really dig meek women.

I get the feeling about that as well.. as a matter of fact, I've seen that kind of behavior my whole life from people which is why I prefer animals over people.. I can't stand human bullshit. Most are simpletons going about their lives complicating everything around them while I just look to simplify my life. That's part of what is great about Liberty to me.. it simplifies things.

"I really don't plan on throwing my support behind anyone yet, I am just trying to point out to the Rand people that it is silly to commit to someone this early. Hell, he might even turn around and spend the next 4 years impressing me, but why commit right now?"

Okay, well I didn't get that.. It's a good idea though, I agree.

"For some reason I cannot edit the comment. Oh well, if he reads this he will know I was not trying being offensive."

I did get you after all LOL Sucka! *wink*

Yep time for a little break for me too I think. At least a few hours of down time. Come rub my feetz?

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A hug?

No, I don't like people I do not know touching me. No pity parties either because it is actually quite funny to me that people around here do not get me, the only reason they do not get me is because very few people here take a minute to have a conversation with me.

You really dig meek women? There are plenty out there, I wish you luck in your search, they are probably not as cool as I am, but they are there. Just don't promise to take them to Alaska if you don't mean it. :)

My "lets all rally around the judge and say he CAN win" seems a bit ridiculous right? Yup, so if the Rand people read it and say.... that sounds ridiculous.... maybe they will hold up a mirror, or maybe not.

Your goal was to have my comment become 403'd lol. Thanks.

I'm supposed to rub your feet, are you going to rub mine in return? This works 2 ways you know.

Your comments make me laugh. Sometimes my roommate and I get bored and we bet on pissing matches. You have become a sure bet.

“I like nonsense, it wakes up the brain cells. Fantasy is a necessary ingredient in living.”
― Dr. Seuss

The majority of my post was

tongue-in-cheek. Talk about not getting someone. :)

"Your goal was to have my comment become 403'd lol. Thanks."

No my goal was to poke you with a stick in a buddy buddy sort of way.. same as the foot comment and a number of other things I say to you.

Yes I am good at pissing matches. :)

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Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.

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lmao

I was tongue and cheek back. So, now you are not going to rub my feet? Could you make up your mind? One minute I'm packing to move to Alaska, then you're all "no no no, I don't want to take you to Alaska with me" even though I am pretty fun to hang out with.

Then you offer to take me out to dinner.... but only after you spy on me 1st, you have read my comments here, do you really need to spy on me?

I think you're playing mind games with me.

And yes, you can poke and I will poke back. I'm not offended by you, again you make me laugh and you don't know it but you have bought me a few beers with your hilarious pissing contests.

“I like nonsense, it wakes up the brain cells. Fantasy is a necessary ingredient in living.”
― Dr. Seuss

Those are serious arguments about our nations Liberty

Heifer and don't you forget it!!! Making money on that.. shame on you and HELL NO I won't rub those crusty feet!

If I was somehow sure you weren't a gubbermint spy...

Send me some boob shots with your face in the shot too I suppose if you must so that I can inspect them..

Send them to my email... wait.. Darnit, that's a dead end email addy.. I've been foiled again! By myself!! (Waiting for you to take the obvious bait.. go ahead..you can do it)

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Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.

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Yeah Right

My feet aren't crusty, I take good care of them, they are velvety soft, you'll find out when we aren't living in Alaska together.

lol, I can read I know you don't respond to emails of pms so I will not take your bait, and even if you did read emails.... WHAT KIND OF GIRL DO YOU THINK I AM?!?!?! I have class.

"Serious arguments about our nations liberty" Absolutely and that is why I put my faith in you on those arguments. :)

“I like nonsense, it wakes up the brain cells. Fantasy is a necessary ingredient in living.”
― Dr. Seuss

"they are velvety soft"

I suppose they would be when you put conditioner on your foot hair, my little hobbit girl.

"you'll find out when we aren't living in Alaska together."

Sorry, If we had met on any other site, maybe, but alas... :(

"Absolutely and that is why I put my faith in you on those arguments. :)"

Damn straight!

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hobbit girl?

I was going to end this one here, but I want the last word here.

No. You're wrong.

I do absolutely understand why we will never meet or live in Alaska together but I will remind you of your empty promises.

Last word?

“I like nonsense, it wakes up the brain cells. Fantasy is a necessary ingredient in living.”
― Dr. Seuss

A flirt to someone you know nothing about isn't a promise

:)

"I do absolutely understand why we will never meet or live in Alaska together but I will remind you of your empty promises."

I hope you really do because I let you know why, it's nothing personal. I've just said some things that are or at least in this climate could be considered "racy" to say the least. Going away would ruin my "future possibilities". As fun as you are to talk to, I know nothing about you so it's not worth the risk..even if you're the sweetest person on the planet, YOU are not hidden and therefore I would not be.

Maybe that sounds like crazy talk? If it does, then we wouldn't be a good match to begin with, right? :)

"Last word?"

You can have it. :)

Patriot Cell #345,168
I don't respond to emails or pm's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=qo8CmO...
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.

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I told you I live in my own world in my head

You said "come live with me in Alaska" (or something like that) and I read "I promise I'll take you far away from all the noise" lol

However I can separate fact from fiction, and yes... you and I are complete strangers.

I honestly do understand your desire to be anonymous. I am very sweet, but believe me... my life is filled of people who feel the need to be anonymous and I understand why. I couldn't talk to my Dad for two years because he was hiding. I get it.

I will say this though, it does not sound like crazy talk at all.

Do I win?

“I like nonsense, it wakes up the brain cells. Fantasy is a necessary ingredient in living.”
― Dr. Seuss

Judge Napolitano would be my first choice for any office.

Unfortunately, he doesn't seem interested in running for any office at all. He has the perfect shot at running in New Jersey for Congress or even for going up against Christie. NJ desparately needs the Judge representing us in this far too liberal State! The real kicker is that he would probably have an excellent shot at winning an election in this Blue State. But, he just doesn't seem interested in going that route.

Justin Amash, on the other hand, seems to have political ambitions and I, for one, would support him wholeheartedly. His time has not yet come but, it will, God willing.

So, right now it looks like Rand Paul is our best hope. It's not because he's Ron's son. It's because Ron Paul always made a point of showing his pride for his son's Senate seat; and Ron Paul is no hypocrite. I trust Ron Paul and his judgment about his son.

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

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I disagree

"So, right now it looks like Rand Paul is our best hope."

He is not our best hope, he is your best hope. And I wish you luck with him.

"His time has not yet come"

Ok, but I think he is worth promoting anyways. And maybe his time is right now and we will never even know if we don't try. The idea of "who CAN win" and who is "ready" is irrelevant to me, it seems that those ideas dictate elections in this country and I am really not interested in what should be, based on what currently is.

You're right, the judge does not seem interested in running so I suppose campaigning for him would be a fruitless uphill battle (I did say my plan might have flaws). I'm OK with that. You want him in congress in NJ? Work for it and good luck to you. I want him to be President, it looks like we both stand the chance of failing. Failure happens.

I'm very confused as to why people are throwing their support behind Rand already. You're the one who says "right now" it looks like he is our best hope. Right now is 4 years off... why do you feel the need to support him right now? I only feel the need to throw my support behind someone else at this exact moment in time because I feel that if the Rand people are already starting commit themselves to him, I should probably come up with a plan also.

I think rp4pres has a good point in waiting patiently, and that was what I originally intended on doing. However, it seems to me that the Rand people cannot wait patiently and have already tied themselves down. Now, why is that?

“I like nonsense, it wakes up the brain cells. Fantasy is a necessary ingredient in living.”
― Dr. Seuss

Perhaps I didn't express myself well.

I agree with your comment and am taking a wait and see position. But, I will not join in with the Rand bashers. Just saying that the Judge would be my first choice for any office, but he doesn't seem interested no matter what we do. I will continue to support Amash and I will keep an eye on Rand's hopes for the future (i.e. three years from now).

It does seem that SOME of the Rand people have tied themselves down. Maybe they know something we don't. Personally, I'm not tied down to anyone or anything political, except restoring the Constitution as the law of the land. Anyone who is in position to actually help us do that will have my support. Should Rand throw his hat into the ring when the time comes, I would support him.

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

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I am glad you have not tied yourself down yet

I do not bash Rand. You will not find a divisive, inflammatory, or belligerent comment from me anywhere on this site.

I argue all day long with very socialist economics professors and it is taxing and usually results in a headache so I avoid the bashing that goes on around here.

I am fierce campaigner. I am meek around here, I am bold in all caps in the real world. Whoever I choose to throw my support behind (in 2 or 3 yrs from now) will have my dedication and perseverance. I doubt that person will be Rand. That is why I wish the Rand supporters the best of luck and I will see them at the finish line.

Right now I see some of the Rand support as he "can win," and while I hate to be too offensive it just seems like they are taking the easy way out because he CAN win. I am not interested in who CAN win, Hillary CAN win... that does not mean I will be supporting her. Obama and Bush both proved they CAN win, yet I supported neither.

Good luck in your search for your candidate of choice.

“I like nonsense, it wakes up the brain cells. Fantasy is a necessary ingredient in living.”
― Dr. Seuss

In my opinion, they haven't become anything

they already were, brother. That's why they support people like GJ and Rand, because they're closer to neoconism than they are to Libertarianism and since they have little problem with degrees of things, they slurp it up.

They still get their wars or at least the potential of a war.

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agreed.

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Christians should not be warmongers! http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance87.html

Hey "ProudAmerican"

How come you haven't replied to any of these recent posts?

You just want to piss everyone off here, don't you? Create a little "burp" in the website, HUH?

C'mon man, admit it: you don't really believe what you post here. You just want a reaction. Be honest for once in your life!

Lima-1, out.

If you don't know your rights, you don't have any.

He only created the thread

about an hour and a half ago. Is it not plausible that he's not sitting here refreshing it?

If they're going to support

and defend legislation and rhetoric that is clearly neo-conservative then it's neo-conservative.

But if they want to call it a "strategy" to help justify it in their minds, that's their problem, not mine.

Three words: sanctions on Iran.