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All Wars Are Banker Wars

Based on the article from What Really Happened.com:


http://youtu.be/5hfEBupAeo4




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I love some of these comments!

We are a force to be reckoned with. We identify half truths very well which in most cases is no better than a whole lie.

Well done.
In Liberty!

Half Truth?

I think there is a bit of an overreaction to the video's lack of information on competing currencies. There is so much addressed by this video that needs to be heard. Private currencies is for another video. Identifying central banks as the cause of all wars is the subject here. For example, when the narrator explains the threat of a state issued currency in Germany to the central banker's currency, he is spot on. Understanding the history of central banks controlling world events/wars to enslave/indebt the world is the means for people to be motivated to take action to break from the currency monopoly and gain freedom to use whatever they choose. A state issued currency backed by silver (Kennedy's US notes) is far better then what we have now.

The Federal Reserve loaned Germany the gold to back the mark

This is the testimony of Rep Louis McFadden in 1932

The loans to Germany and Japan made in 1931 come due in 1941. Japan bombed Pearl Harbor, Germany declared war on the US. US military was paid to reposes the loaned gold. Congress sacrificed the labor and blood of soldiers to resolve the US bankruptcy.

Free includes debt-free!

I don't beleive he ever mentioned sound money.

Without that mention it assumes that as long as the government issues worthless fiat paper all is swell. Not so. NO ONE should have the authority to create fiat money by force.
The causes of war is a great example but if the solution leads us full circle down a rat hole of corruption than some of us must post - Reader Beware!

Misguided

-It puts government issued fiat currency on a pedastal (i.e. The Greenback). Government issued fiat currency is just as bad for the people as central bank issued fiat currency.

-Gives the wrong solution. State issued currency is NOT the solution. No talk of the REAL solution: free market money, allowing the INDIVIDUAL to decide what is money.

-G. Edward Griffin refutes the JFK myth here: http://www.freedomforceinternational.org/freedomcontent.cfm?...

-Too much negative emphasis on usury. Nothing wrong with usury in a free market.

Nonsense


You say there is nothing wrong with usury in a free market.

Indeed your understanding is very misguided, because private Central Banks holding an exclusive Monopoly over the creation of all money ... is not a free market at all. Usury is the problem here, because the mere creation of money is directly correlated with the creation of Debt.

This isn't a free market at all, this is financial slavery (and a system of total financial control). The more money you create, the more DEBT you also create (which requires money to extinguish), so the the creation of both money and Debt then become hopelessly endless, and unresolvable.

So the Video does correctly defend Lincoln and Kennedy for their efforts to take the control away from the private Bankers, and provide debt-free currency to allow the people to finally freely exchange their good and services.

And in fact, those two Presidents were assassinated precisely because they threatened to end the reign of the Global Bankers, and provide Sovereign currency -- that would be outside the clutches and reach of the Rothschilds, Warburgs, Rockefellers, Morgans, etc., (and with no fabricated DEBT to enslave the people).

Now if we actually had "United States Notes", the Banksters would then lose all their influence, and their stranglehold over us.

But if the creation of money is left to any profit-oriented market, then the rich interests will always be able to control the creation of money once again. They can own the mining companies outright, they can own the COMEX (J.P. Morgan) and can manipulate the perceived supply and the pricing, and they can affix Debt and fees, paper-gold schemes, and other deceptions on the public.

So the only way to take the Banksters out of the game, is to have the creation of money become a public service (untouchable by the profiteers) with no DEBT (enslavement), and to also declare anything that the Banksters "create" to be no longer money.

Then, and only then, do they finally lose their control. And History makes clear their Control has been the true corrupting force behind democracies and dictatorships alike.

The Banksters objective has always been to control the World (and the World's Resources). You have to break that chain, and put them out of business. Only Soveriegn money can do that, which is why assassinations and Wars occur whenever somebody stands up (Moammar Khadafi, Saddam Hussein) and tries to go around the Central Banks, or go around the Petro-Dollar.

Read what I wrote again:

Read what I wrote again: There is nothing wrong with usury IN A FREE MARKET.

I fully understand that central banking is not a free market. That's why I distinguished. So, your rebuttle doesn't apply.

Usury, in and of itself, is not the problem, but on a couple occasions, the video tries to sell that.

So I have to rent you an apartment or my gold for free?

Ribah which is translated as usary is a whole different concept.

I loan you $100 Dollars but I give you $80, because I keep $20. But you still owe me $100 in the future. That is ribah!

If I rent you $100 Dollars and you owe $120 in the future, the principle + interest.

In one case you get $80 to to break even you must find a profit of $20.

In the legal case you get $100 and to break even, you find a profit of $20 starting with more.

Fiat money is a fraud, how does one fraud a fraud.

A Dollar is defined as 371 4/16 grains of silver.

Free includes debt-free!

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While not the BEST or ONLY answer...

its a helluva lot better than what we've got now!

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
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Defeat CORKER! Bailed out the banks. In training to steal more.
Defeat ALEXANDER! Career traitor! Handsomely rich in a poor Nation.

Money Masters is way better

Money Masters is way better than this.

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Why not take the best...

of both?

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!

Defeat CORKER! Bailed out the banks. In training to steal more.
Defeat ALEXANDER! Career traitor! Handsomely rich in a poor Nation.

As many have already noted,

As many have already noted, there is a lot of misinformation in this. His premise is correct, but he's puting the pieces together wrong.

This is dangerously deceptive

This is full of greenbacker horsecrap. It has known false quotes. It properly attacks central banks but absolutely ignores that government controlled fiat currency has done worse damage in history. They Weimar mark was inflated BECAUSE the government wanted to print money to pay debts. He has positive things to say about the new deal, AS IF that money went anywhere but to the rich. This is dangerously deceptive.

Essentially it's a KGB attack on the CIA.

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Yeah, ok...

the greenbacks and the us "notes" got two presidents killed!

They must be dangerously deceptive to SOMEBODY!

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!

Defeat CORKER! Bailed out the banks. In training to steal more.
Defeat ALEXANDER! Career traitor! Handsomely rich in a poor Nation.

Licoln was not killed for killing 800,000 Americans?

He supervised the invasion, looting and occupation of the Southerns States, committing treason against the Constitution.

For this treason Lincoln is memorialized in his own private prison cell.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincoln_Memorial.

I have in my hand a United States Note of 1963 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Note
United States Notes were created as fiat currency, in that the government has never categorically guaranteed to redeem them for precious metal. ~wiki

Executive order 11110 was to facilitate eliminating silver certificates.

President Kennedy repeated his calls for Congress to act on several occasions, including his 1963 Economic Report, where he wrote:

"I again urge a revision in our silver policy to reflect the status of silver as a metal for which there is an expanding industrial demand. Except for its use in coins, silver serves no useful monetary function."

Kennedy had Thwarted the Pay of Pigs Operation.

Sen Mike Mansfield reported to President Kennedy on December 2, 1962, that US money given to Diem's government was being squandered and that the US should avoid further involvement in Vietnam.

The CIA assassinated Ngo Dinh Diem on November 2, 1963 and installed their puppet, Dương Văn Minh.

Twenty days later on November 22, 1963, JFK was assassinated. The Pentagon Papers suggests friction over the CIA assassination with Henry Cabot Lodge.

Lincoln like Kennedy both preferred play money it seems.

Free includes debt-free!

Exactly


The concept of Sovereign money is the one thing that cannot be controlled by the Banksters.

But everything else can be, as any means of private production can always be taken over and controlled by the wealthly interests.


Sovereign money is controlled by sovereign individuals.

If we want to trade 1/50 an ounce of gold for and ounce of silver. Why does government need to be involved

I I want to sell you a a pound of tobacco for a once of silver, again what purpose is served by government involvement or interference?

Bankers and Governments create fiat money in order to benefit from every market transaction. They both want to fleece the sheep.

Free includes debt-free!

But Bankers Control the Gold, and always have...


Anything that is produced privately, is destined to be controlled by the wealthy interests, i.e. The Banksters.

And the Banksters have controlled Gold for centuries. The same applies with Silver (which has lost a whopping 40% of its value since 2011 when it was at $50/ounce). These guys control it and manipulate it.

The only uncorruptible money, is something that the Bankers have no power over, and cannot issue or produce themselves. This is how you stop them right in their tracks.

Sovereign currency is what they fear (as it takes away their power).

Resistance is futile.

Congress created the Federal Reserve, they will never give it up.

To think bankers fear government issued paper money is a laugh.

Over One hundred years the Gold Silver Ratio has been 47±6 or 13%.

Priced in silver the $FRN lost 87% over 100 years.
Priced in gold the $FRN has lost 96%

Lincoln Greenback sent gold skyrocketing to over $400/ounce. By 1972 the Jay Cooke's scam collapsed, the US was bankrupt and begging foreign creditors for a bailout.

Why would that strike fear in bankers hearts?

The secret to solving the debt problem, like Jackson demonstrated is to pay off the debt. Slash government to 1930 levels and pay off the debt if you want to see bankers sweat.

Free includes debt-free!

Pay attention. This video is

Pay attention. This video is not saying end fiat money. It's a call for fully socialized currency as opposed to semi-socialized. Anyone who supports fiat currency, no matter who controls it, is not your friend. This is hegelian dialectic bullshit, to trick you into supporting the same thing they are claiming they are against.
Stalin hated Mao hated Hitler hated Churchill. So what? does that make them opposites? Only if the public schools have made you as stupid as they need you to be.

Gangs fight each other all the time. They are still gangs. Governments fight each other all the time. They are still governments.

If all you want is a different slave master, you're talking to the wrong peeps. We don't want a new slave master. We don't want to be master. We don't want to have masters. To the extent we have a government it may only do those things we have a right to do ourselves. I can delegate power to you to stop rape murder or theft because I can take those actions.

I cannot force you to use worthless paper slips as money. Therefore I cannot delegate that power to government. I don't have it. You don
t have it.

Only one little nit. "Marxist Dialectic"

Marx explained how he twisted Hegel's work. That way Karl could claim some philosophical street cred. Like every thing else Marx touched he perverted.

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You're quite right and that's

You're quite right and that's the term that is really preferred and more meaningful. Though I see it as a matter of application and degree. Hagel was a statist too

I would saw quite a few degrees.

Hegel was a minarchist and Rothbard anarcho-capitalist. both are a long way from Marx who saw one state doing violence on another ad infinitum.

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Ok here's a few more degrees for you:)

I'm not quibbling Marx ran the ball quite a way.

But I wouldn't call Hegel a minarchist. His philosophy was essentially a justification for collectivism. He was inventing the moral case for the new non monarchical governments springing up. Divine right wasn't going to cut it anymore. You need an excuse to prey on people, and he (among others to be sure) provided it.

Now he may not have imagined how far things would go. He may have just been used to government and didn't like the idea of it going away while not thinking it might get so out of control. Regardless Hegel is a seed of all sorts of evil.

I don't recall what Rothbard had to say about him but I'll bet it wasn't kind. I'll have to check.

Do Not Be Deceived

This video is horribly full of statist ideology. You will see this doctrine emerge more and more. It argues that money creation should be in the hands of the government, not the "private sector". We must not allow people to label the current money system as private. It is a cartel enforced by government violence. Removing the bankers and replacing them with bureaucrats will do nothing to change the current system.

Do not be lulled to support this doctrine. The answer is the full repeal of the currency laws. Allow any currency to be used. Allow any bank to issue any currency. Allow any mint to issue a full gold backed currency. Allow the currencies to compete. Allow the strongest, most stable store of value to emerge. THIS IS THE ANSWER... DO NOT BELIEVE THAT GIVING GOVERNMENT AND POLITICIANS FULL CONTROL OF OUR MONEY SUPPLY IS A PANACEA. IT IS DEATH!

I didnt really get that

He says the Fed is a private bank is true, but doesnt say that gov't is the answer.

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BS!

"...money creation should be in the hands of the government"

well, yeah, isn't that what the constitution says?

If that "government" has been bribed into corruption then replace those traitors! Don't throw the baby out with the dirty water!

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!

Defeat CORKER! Bailed out the banks. In training to steal more.
Defeat ALEXANDER! Career traitor! Handsomely rich in a poor Nation.

Not exactly, this is how I read it.

Congress is given the power to coin Money.

Article 1 section 8.5
To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

Article 1 section 10
No State shall make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts.

Only US Congress can mint Coins that the States must use to pay their debts to the US Treasury or the people.

A Dollar was defined as a branded and fixed weight of Silver, 371 4/16 grains by the Coinage Act of 1792. Counterfeiting involved copying the Congressional Brand. Congress regulated of foreign Coin also by determining the weight of silver or gold of those coins. The Panda or the Silver Real for example.

No states or State chartered banks may issues Bills of credit, they must have a weight gold and silver on hand and redeemable on demand for any bills created. Fractional Reserves are explicitly forbidden to the States.

Nordhaus infringed on the Congressional brand. Had he simply minted a weight of silver he wouldn't be a counterfeiter and could have established his own brand reputation and loyalty.

The States are to pay their debts to Treasury and to the people in Gold and Silver Congressional Coin or regulated (made regular) foreign Coin including Nordhaus Coins not Congressionally branded.

Are other Federal claims in the Nordhaus case are without justification except that Nordhaus Coins are not legal Tender for State debts.

Had Nordhaus minted unbranded Coins they would be as valid as cigarettes were in prison camps. There are no Constitutional or legal restriction on what you and I can contract for trade.

The Constitution establishes rules for Governments, not for people or citizens.

Free includes debt-free!

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isn't that what I...

also inferred?

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!

Defeat CORKER! Bailed out the banks. In training to steal more.
Defeat ALEXANDER! Career traitor! Handsomely rich in a poor Nation.

Nope

You throw away the baby with the bath water when you interpret the constitution as stating that Congress shall have the SOLE power to mint coin. It doesn't say that.

Allowing a truly free market of currency competitors does not negate Article 1 Section 8. The Federal Government would still be welcome to compete if the legal tender laws were repealed. As a matter of fact, that is exactly what Dr. Paul's Free Competition in Currency Act did.