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FAIL: Man arrested at Nashville, TN Gun Rally for carrying an AR15

http://youtu.be/8mTFCpZ_unU

It appears that the crowd stands by sheepishly

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Too bad.

I think a group of 6-8 pro gun rights participants could have easily prevented these cops from making an arrest. And peacefully, too. I mean, if they surround their protesting colleague and walk him back into the crowd, what are Ocifers Tweedle Dumb and Dumber gonna do? Pull out their pistols on the crowd?

What a sad, utterly wasted opportunity.

Although I think citizens' arrests of the offending law enforcement officers would have made a bolder statement.... and much better television! (Zip ties work on the police, too, you know, if citizen-issued citations don't get the point across.)

If we don't act--especially in those rare occasions when we have numbers on our side--then what is the point? We can stand around holding signs, bitching and chanting, but it is useless and is truly a waste of time.

One armed person, as portrayed by today's media, will always be considered a "crazy", but what about a large portion of a community?

Bolder actions are required.

What would the Founders do?

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Guy with beard:

Duh, well, uh, you know, those good ole boys in the uniforms - are really nice, and we shouldn't just exercise our rights if other people get offended. I'll just cower down and let my freedoms be taken away now.

"Government is the entertainment division of the military-industrial complex". - Frank Zappa

The officers, might have found this interesting reading?

Maybe those attending as well.

Your Right of Defense Against Unlawful Arrest

“Citizens may resist unlawful arrest to the point of taking an arresting
officer's life if necessary.” Plummer v. State, 136 Ind. 306. This
premise was upheld by the Supreme Court of the United States in the
case: John Bad Elk v. U.S., 177 U.S. 529. The Court stated: “Where the
officer is killed in the course of the disorder which naturally
accompanies an attempted arrest that is resisted, the law looks with
very different eyes upon the transaction, when the officer had the right
to make the arrest, from what it does if the officer had no right. What
may be murder in the first case might be nothing more than manslaughter
in the other, or the facts might show that no offense had been
committed.”
--
“An arrest made with a defective warrant, or one issued without
affidavit, or one that fails to allege a crime is within jurisdiction,
and one who is being arrested, may resist arrest and break away. lf the
arresting officer is killed by one who is so resisting, the killing will
be no more than an involuntary manslaughter.” Housh v. People, 75 111.
491; reaffirmed and quoted in State v. Leach, 7 Conn. 452; State v.
Gleason, 32 Kan. 245; Ballard v. State, 43 Ohio 349; State v Rousseau,
241 P. 2d 447; State v. Spaulding, 34 Minn. 3621.
--
“When a person, being without fault, is in a place where he has a right
to be, is violently assaulted, he may, without retreating, repel by
force, and if, in the reasonable exercise of his right of self defense,
his assailant is killed, he is justified.” Runyan v. State, 57 Ind. 80;
Miller v. State, 74 Ind. 1.
--
“These principles apply as well to an officer attempting to make an
arrest, who abuses his authority and transcends the bounds thereof by
the use of unnecessary force and violence, as they do to a private
individual who unlawfully uses such force and violence.” Jones v. State,
26 Tex. App. I; Beaverts v. State, 4 Tex. App. 1 75; Skidmore v. State,
43 Tex. 93, 903.
--
“An illegal arrest is an assault and battery. The person so attempted to
be restrained of his liberty has the same right to use force in
defending himself as he would in repelling any other assault and
battery.” (State v. Robinson, 145 ME. 77, 72 ATL. 260).
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“Each person has the right to resist an unlawful arrest. In such a case,
the person attempting the arrest stands in the position of a wrongdoer
and may be resisted by the use of force, as in self- defense.” (State v.
Mobley, 240 N.C. 476, 83 S.E. 2d 100).
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“One may come to the aid of another being unlawfully arrested, just as
he may where one is being assaulted, molested, raped or kidnapped. Thus
it is not an offense to liberate one from the unlawful custody of an
officer, even though he may have submitted to such custody, without
resistance.” (Adams v. State, 121 Ga. 16, 48 S.E. 910).
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“Story affirmed the right of self-defense by persons held illegally. In
his own writings, he had admitted that ‘a situation could arise in which
the checks-and-balances principle ceased to work and the various
branches of government concurred in a gross usurpation.’ There would be
no usual remedy by changing the law or passing an amendment to the
Constitution, should the oppressed party be a minority. Story concluded,
‘If there be any remedy at all ... it is a remedy never provided for by
human institutions.’ That was the ‘ultimate right of all human beings in
extreme cases to resist oppression, and to apply force against ruinous
injustice.’” (From Mutiny on the Amistad by Howard Jones, Oxford
University Press, 1987, an account of the reading of the decision in the
case by Justice Joseph Story of the Supreme Court.

As for grounds for arrest: “The carrying of arms in a quiet, peaceable,
and orderly manner, concealed on or about the person, is not a breach of
the peace. Nor does such an act of itself, lead to a breach of the
peace.” (Wharton’s Criminal and Civil Procedure, 12th Ed., Vol.2: Judy
v. Lashley, 5 W. Va. 628, 41 S.E. 197)
--

http://www.constitution.org/uslaw/defunlaw.txt

Nice information

Ricky, this is important information, should be seperate, it's own post! Thanks

Deekey

Feel free to

do with it as you like

Thank you - always wondered

Thank you - always wondered about this but never had any facts - just copied it.

You are welcome

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You missed it all everyone.

1:50 into the video.

boy will the new DHS video be worthless now.

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Another Gun-Free Zone

at least if it's a scary looking firearm.
I guess concealed carry doesn't apply if you can't or don't conceal it.

Here's How it's Supposed to

Here's How it's Supposed to be done! We had a 2nd amendment rally in my hometown of Coeur d' alene, Idaho on January 19th. Open Carry (which is perfectly legal here) was not only allowed but encouraged. Our featured speaker was OathKeepers founder Stewart Rhodes, who gave his speech with his semi automatic rifle on his back!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Jnhn1NE54g

There is no point in having a weapon if you are not prepared...

to use it. Those troopers should have been the first casualties of the next American revolution.

Are you certain this was not COINTELPRO?

Cointelpro calls for

Cointelpro calls for violence. Violence is wrong.

Fail because

Fail because he failed to assert it is his right. Fail because nobody helped him fight for his right. He has a right to carry a long-rifle to this rally, read the constitution.

The folks at this rally must not be too serious about their gun rights. You can't claim to defend your own gun rights without defending someone else's gun rights as well.

Nashville needs more liberty educated folks.

"It is unlawful to carry a loaded rifle in public places with the intent to go armed". Who in the world wrote that law? It should be a crime to use a loaded rifle to commit a crime. Never should it be a crime to peacefully carry a loaded rifle. No victim- No crime. I'd work to get that law repealed immediately.

The founders would be ashamed at us for what we are putting up with.

The video.....

sez magazine cliped on, but didn't specify exactly if it was loaded.

Probably won't matter, they'll more than likely screw him one way or another....

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What the? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MTIwY3_-ks

lol...cool

they interviewed Jeff Quinn (i think thats his name) of Gunblast.com. He is the guy with the beard. Great website with tons of good reviews.

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