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Pope Benedict XVI 'to resign'

Pope Benedict XVI is to resign on February 28th, according to reports on Italian news agency ANSA.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/the-pope/9862194/Po...

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(((((((((((((Nonna)))))))))))

My fast begins on Wednesday, so tonight I cracked open a bottle of hurricane drink to celebrate Mardi Gras, Fat Tuesday, after I went to the vigil and rosery for my best friend in choir who passed away last thursday. I spoke.

There is much I could tell you.. but all I will say for now is this, the mystery and spirituality is profound, and I am grateful to God for giving me such a glorious, joyful, sorrowful, luminous place in this world, where LOVE matters more than anything.

Holding you close in my prayers ((((((((((((((Nonna)))))))))))).

PS I have a long drive tomorrow to see the surgeon and see what he will do about my left eye.. KNOW I LOVE YOU and THANK YOU for showing me how wonderful the East Coast is.

What's going on with your left eye?

Is there a problem from the surgery or did something happen after that? Keeping YOU close in my prayers for a good outcome from your visit with the surgeon today.

It is true, LOVE does matter more than anything. (((((((Granger))))))) you are so filled with love that I know you can make a difference in this world. A big cyber hug going out to you, my friend.

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

((((((((((((((((((Nonna))))))))))))))))))

Ohhhhhhh ((((((((((((Nonna))))))))))). The left corner of my eye, as it was healing, I noticed a big purple lump that was painful, it's near the skullbone and deep under the stitches.. like it was stiched inside and has no way to break. It constantly hurts. I'm sure it's a fiberglass shard that was stimulated by the surgery. My guess is that the surgeon is going to schedule me an appointment to remove it.. I don't think he can lance it... but I'm not a surgeon, so I don't know what he can do, only know he should do something.. I hope he does something! 3 1/2 hour drive to the doctor.. and what's the hardest.. is that my dear beloved friend's funeral is today. I was asked to sing Ave Maria at his funeral and I can not... deep sigh.

Seven hours of driving for what will probably be a 1/2 hour wait and then 5 minute meeting with the surgeon... life is crazy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcoU6-9lQeo

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(((((Nonna and Granger)))))

Two of my favorite women on this site. Just thought I would say hello and I wish you well, Granger.

Make sure you get a second opinion because I just went through a medical accident mistake disaster with my mom.

Just because they are surgeons don't mean that they have an idea of what needs to be done.

Be careful.

All the best to the both of you...and thank you for your contributions to this site and to the cause of liberty.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

Hi (((((Chris)))))!

Is your mom alright? The quality of medical care has sunk to new lows, particularly for the elderly, and I fear it will only get worse. Please let us know about your mother and if she needs big time prayers.

The Granger knows that my husband is having medical problems that have been compounded by a certain doctor's limited mindset. It's pretty bad when I, with no medical training whatsoever, can see a doctor's medical judgment and treatment are way off the mark. I chose to bring my husband home to care for him myself (with discussion with our actual primary care physician, who is wonderful) and he is actually getting better and stronger now. Prayers and love from The Granger and a few other DPers keep us going day by day.

Prayers and love going out to you, too ((((((Sharkhearted)))))). Thanks for all you do!

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

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Arwww...that makes tears come to my eyes.

Thanks for asking about my mom. Yeah just warn any post-menopausal woman to AVOID the drug made by Merck called fosamax.

Blackboxed by the FDA after 5 years....my mom was on it for 18 years!!

Femur fractures so common that there are numerous class-action lawsuits in relation to this dangerous, dangerous drug.

Mom is a 72-year old (still) working woman who went in for a knee replacement and snapped her femur after the operation AT the hospital.

Has been a disaster....but that which does not kill us makes us stronger.

And my mom (and dad) are starting to pay attention to the discrepancies of the state-sponsored account of the the events of 9/11 versus reality...and they are livid.

The truth is liberating, no doubt.

XOXOXO so glad to hear your husband is doing better under your care. Not surprised. You know whats up and what is best.

The age of Authoritarianism is DEAD. WE...are are own authority. Doctors and "authorities" and politicians...should only be seen as "facilitators."

There is no earthly "authority", save for the rational, sane individual, like you, and me.

We are the authority.

All the best,

Friends,

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

(((((((((((((((sharkhearted)))))))))))

That is one foxy picture. Thank you for the kind and wise words.

((((((((((((my favorite truther!))))))))))))

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Good luck on that surgery...and can you believe

there are people who would down vote our exchange??

I realize there are LOTS of people with axes to grind with me....

But come on...for someone to down vote a well wish for a friend who is going into surgery....well...that takes a real SICK crazy-ass loony-tune sociopath for sure.

The First Amendment protects crazy individuals too, I guess...but I will take some ashes on my forehead for them, too, because they obviously need it.

God Bless you in your Lenten fast and I wish you a speedy recovery from the surgery (if you get it).

As I said...be careful...and wary. There are many people in the medical business that are just looking at $$$ and have forgotten their Hippocratic Oath.

Be wise....and be well. :-)

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

TY ((((((((((((Sharkhearted)))))))))))))

I had surgery a month ago, refered by an eye doctor who I was going to, for removing cysts that developed from my over confidense, laziness, and lack if wearing saftey goggles and mask when sanding fiberglass off surfboards to repair, and my general practicioner, who had refered me to the eye doctor.

Today, the surgeon is going to look at his work, which it appears to me, the surgery left behind, and stimulated, another cyst that developed under the left eyelid near the skull bone, under the stitches, leaving a painfil purple lump. I imagine he will schedule another operation to remove the cyst.

What was not wise on my part is thinking "a little fiberglass won't hurt me". This eye surgery followed a sinus surgery that removed 5 areas of my sinus.

I was a surfer. I lived to surf, and the sinus operation beached me, and why I have time for DP ;))

I think you are correct, that there are many people in the medical industry looking for $$$$.. sometimes I wonder if the fear of a collapsed economy stimulates that rather than greed.

Thank you for the blessing in my Lenten Fast. I wrote a topic post asking if anyone wanted to join me two weeks ago. Hard to believe that tomorrow.. I'll be doing the Master Cleanse for two days and then drinking the lemonade for two weeks before I begin clear fruit juices and miso, and then fruit/vegetable/greens juices and tomato and squash soup, vegan probiotics, until the fast ends the end of March, followed by a 21 day, diet stabilization.

Last year, my fast brought my body into 100% perfect health.. so as the year passed, I experimented, seeing what foods I had problems with. I've come to the conclusion, I am blessed to not have any food problems, only too much and not enough exercize, which is the hardest hurdle because you can take a girl out of the surf, but you can't take the surf out of the girl.

(((((((((((((((((sharkhearted)))))))))))))))))))

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Sorry to hear for your troubles!

Let me know how I can help. I am serious, Granger.

If I can be of any help....please let me know. sharkhearted at gmail.

I promise I will respond.

Lenten blessings.

Friends,

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

(((((((((((((sharkhearted)))))))))))))))

They are nuicances, not troubles. If I ever need help, I'll gmail you.. matter of fact.. I could use some prayer on another issue.. The poster Missy woke me up the other day, offered to support my trip to the CA GOP convention.

I am going.. as elected treasurer of my central committee, I have a vote, and I'm not just going to vote for liberty candidates in the party, bt to network, and my highlight will be "dinner with Karl Rove who is starting a new Victory PAC to keep neocons in and eliminate liberty candidates. I hope to learn what I can, question him and see who's behind this to "turn the tables".

Because of Missy's suggestion, I intend to go to my central committee meeting and asking them to help fund the trip. Depending on how well I do, or rather,, if I do not do well.. I have permission to make a post here and ask for help. I am thinking I would like to make a post that lists the events, the price of the envent and let posters pick what they would fund,, respecting their principles.. and if an event had moe funds.. then let the posters who funded that event decide if I could pit the money somplace else or if it should go to DP.. or someplace else that supports liberty candidates.. or something along these lines.

I am not one to ask folks for help.. and I don't know how tomake that kind of page,, or a chip in kind of deal.. and maybe most importantly, I want to learn what is legal.. how to do this with transparency, and correctly, because I don't want to cause problems for me, DP, anyone.. if I can't do it.. I'm ok.. if I can, I want to do it so it's all above board and honest.

Maybe you know something about this being you created a web page? I hope your webpage is rocking!!! THANK YOU FOR BEING A FRIEND!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MU6GdcbzJx4

Blessings to you and yours!!!!

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Well I am there for ya

YOU are worth saving.

FRIENDS

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

TY (((((((sharkhearted))))))))

FRIENDS!!!!!

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I love the Baltimore Catechism too...

... for the same reasons as you. Especially the clarity of it.

Google is government.

The Vatican - part of the underworld

We'll see who gets in. I can't stand to see all the people fawning over these fornificators of the earth. The pope, especially this one has always creeped me out. I wonder why the non catholic liberals like slimball Matthews and Wolf Blitzer are so excited over this story!

whoa...whoa...whoa...

Everyone SLOW down.....

Let them make their plans, let them present their Hollywood production....The Creator is not going to budge....nor should we....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpNV7hr09Gc
Here's my quickie commentary...I've been at this Christian religion thing a long time....I say, stick to the scriptures and do what pleases Him; and holding worry and fear in our hearts does not please Him as much as trusting that He has it all under control....He needs a witness down here...

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right we can go slow

let them rush to their own demise
i don't have a problem with that
deacon

If we deny truth before your very eyes,then the rest of what we have to say,is of little consequence

satan will do his satan-thing...

...all we have to do is NOT buy into it!

;) easy, right?

I know who the deed holder of this planet is, and I know who wants His job but can't have it!

Rise of the False Prophet?

The timing of this resignation in addition to a rapidly increasing fascist and global state seems bizarre to the say the least. If so, the time is short. Judge for yourself.

Comments reflect the blowback from Counter Reformation

I find the prejudice demonstrated below distasteful.

Should Benedict wait for dotage and allow Vatican intrigues to overwhelm him.

Some would think he had violated the libertarian non-aggression principle!

JP Morgan is a known bank predator, it uses the full range of Public Relations manipulations in its efforts of hostile takeover. Including paying lecturers and pundits to stir up old hatreds with lies and deceptions.

Free includes debt-free!

A Divine Institution indeed!

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Did you know the first pope

Did you know the first pope didn't exist until about 300 years after Christ. You ever heard of the Council of Nicea?

Have people here

read the Da Vinci Code? I'm curious.

Yes, and despite what the courts said, it sure seemed to be

taken from "Holy Blood, Holy Grail", by Baigent, Leigh & Lincoln. "Holy Blood, Holy Grail" is NOT a work of fiction, as The DaVinci Code is. It is a well researched book and well worth the read. Dan Brown's book was a weak imitation, imo.

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

I had

not heard of Holy Blood, Holy Grail. Thanks for the info. The thing that struck me about the Da Vinci Code wasn't only the Holy Grail aspect of it, but the symbology explanations. Does the book by Baigent talk about that too? I ask because of the loose connections to the Illuminati ... puzzle I guess I'd call it... overall.

The title is symbolic and signifies a mistranslation.

It's been a long time since I read it but, the entire book gives explanations for the conclusions the authors reached. That's not to say they reached the correct conclusion but, they do attempt to put all the pieces of the puzzle together. Give it a shot. If the subject interests you, I think you will find "Holy Blood, Holy Grail" fascinating.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Blood_Holy_Grail Scroll down to the "Content" section and see whether or not it is worth your reading time.

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

The content

section at Wikipedia only says the book talks about the Holy Grail aspect -- the Priory of Scion, Knights Templar, Freemasonry, Mary Magdalene, etc. -- but the Da Vinci Code goes into symbols like the pentacle, and triangle (point down for woman, point up for man) or pyramid, the Star of David (combined triangles), and also the link between Venus, the pentacle, and mathematical things like the Fibonacci sequence and phi. That's the symbology I'm asking about. It doesn't look like Holy Blood, Holy Grail talks about that at all?

Maybe you are looking for occult information, rather than

speculations based on actual events. I honestly don't remember whether or not the book addresses the occult in any way. If it does, it would be in details that I already knew about and were not central to the thesis put forth. The focus is on secrets and secret societies.

You might want to explore the occult section in a bookstore to find the information you want to learn more about. Sorry, but I cannot recall anything specific I've read in the past to recommend to you.

“It is the food which you furnish to your mind that determines the whole character of your life.”
―Emmet Fox

Thanks for

the info. It's the part where you say "the focus is on secrets and secret societies" that I'm interested in. The reason, and the reason I posted in this thread, is because there seems to be a thin link between a lot of broad things: religion (and the occult), the Illuminati, money, governments, presidents (or powerful people), secret or hidden symbols, secret societies. etc.

I'm not interested in any one thing, like the occult, or presidents, or the Holy Grail. However, I'm interested in why so many different things seem to have a thin link, one that goes way, way back in time, even to ancient civilizations like the Egyptians. There seems to be things that affect us, here in the real world today, that are connected in some way with events of the past. Nothing is explicit, so all we get are loose conspiracy theories. Books like the Da Vinci Code, although it's technically fiction, do mix in a lot of information that seems in fact tied to the real world. It does it in a way that makes one think, or me at least.