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A Second former LAPD officer releases a manifesto:


Christopher Dorner is creating quite a firestorm of attention directed toward the Los Angles Police Department, and now his efforts have doubled in another manifesto created by former LAPD Officer Joe Jones.

My Former LAPD Officer Joe Jones MANIFESTO…

I know most of you who personally who me are in disbelief of the partial story I will tell today. A story that has been suppressed for about 18 years, But lives strong everyday of my life.

I without hesitation would like to send my condolences to the Victims who were lost and their families during this tragic situation. I would also like to send my condolences and well wishes to the many former and current Officers, as well as Citizen’s and their families who lost the lives and souls of loved one’s to the injustices of Police Corruption, Scandal, Lies, Deception and Brutality.


WOW! I have never heard of this site but I picked up the link from RonPaulFriends on Facebook.

I wonder if more officers will step forward?

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Let me just say this...

for years these public servants (aka "cops") have been "just doing their job" which was committing crimes on a daily basis for banksters. Crimes of assault, battery, human trafficking, racketeering etc etc... Cops if you're listening... that's what you do when you are "just doing your job" - these are FACTS so don't ask an "Attorney" about them - GO LOOK THEM UP!

No person shall be held for a capitol or infamous crime unless on indictment or presentment of a grand jury [of peers]

YOU TOOK AN OATH TO THAT... how many people have you ARRESTED without a GRAND JURY INDICTMENT/PRESENTMENT let alone even a warrant signed by a judge?

That realization creates guilt. Many of these cops have killed people enforcing UNLAWFUL statutory regulations on them. For the same reason people coming back from the wars are committing suicide - these unlawful... previously unwitting peace officers are going to be feeling somewhat responsible.

They have created a lot of problems through their ignorance. They are of course the "tip of the spear" for the banksters/PTB.


How did this turn into a flame thread???

'Peace is a powerful message.' Ron Paul

I don't know...

This could be a set-up plea to get dorner to turn himself in. They are going to try anything and everything to stop him. They are terrified right now spending millions of dollars protecting their own people. He owns them right now, they look powerless and incompetent.

"Chistopher Dorner. The 1st thing I would say to him is, I feel your pains!…But you are going about this the wrong way. To take innocent lives could never be the answer to anything. I say this as a Man who experienced the same pain, betrayal, anger, suffering, litigation and agony that you did in many ways, Only I didn’t get Fired. I just choose to go a different route. My heart still suffered that same shock, I was still left to try and put the pieces back together. The disbelief that people could conspire and cause you to loose something you loved so dearly was still there. I lost my Career, I lost my Family, I lost my Dignity, I lost my Trust…But I am here now to hopefully one day see change…Bro, Don’t kill anymore Innocent people. Your point has been made. Clearly. They know you mean business, The whole world knows. Refrain from any further wrong doing and do what you must to salvage your Soul. Whatever that means to you. Just remember that God is a forgiving God."

"Endless money forms the sinews of war." - Cicero, www.freedomshift.blogspot.com

Here's a good question....

Here's a good question.... will this be the final straw that starts the race war both sides have been hoping for that will ultimately end up being a huge win for whites and hispanics?

If blacks are so eager to put praise on this guy I must think that whatever happens will end up being a huge ordeal. Are the blacks ready to start aiming their weapons rather than turning them to the side to look "cool"?

Actually, I welcome it and I live in New Orleans... 60% Black. I don't really care because I know most of them are idiots who have no practice with firearms whatsoever, while I myself am well trained and stockpiled. I doubt it would happen here though because the area I live in New Orleans is a pretty cool. Except for a few areas, blacks and whites get along quite well. But whatever, I'm still ready, and I can see this turning into the inevitable race war that we have all known was coming all along.

I will let Billy Madison sum it up for you:

Mr. Haysoose, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

Thanks a lot for dragging

Thanks a lot for dragging this site down further with that racist, collectivist trash.

Thank you for being an

Thank you for being an ignorant fool. You'll be one of the first to go I'm sure.

I don't really care what the

I don't really care what the ex-fascists' papers say. The unibomber's manifesto was real and good. His actually made perfect sense and it had nothing to do with party politics. But you don't see anyone talking about that these's days do you? He still went went to prison. Put the negroes in jail and be done with it. Of course the LAPD won't do that, they'll shoot first and ask questions later just like we saw them do to the 2 women. That's how the totalitarian state works.... kill then apologize later, or not. They don't care.


I wish there were mods here with enough good sense to delete racist posts. This isn't the Stormfront web site, FFS.

You need a mod to protect

You need a mod to protect you? You can't come back with anything worthy of a retort? Is that how weak you are?


First of all this is a family site, check your language.

Second, great to see a collectivist at work. Knowing "groups" of people doesn't give you a pass using derogatory comments. It's inappropriate.

Last, get real dude. I've lived in many places including Texas, California, Georgia, and Kansas and I've never felt more uncomfortable in recent years than the 2 weeks I spent in Louisiana with people throwing that word around like it was coming back in style. There are places where culture hasn't changed very much, you could argue time has literally stood still. Your excuses are just screaming that you don't have a clue how much of this country has moved on. Travel outside of your backyard.

Stop dehumanizing people.

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I noticed you said Louisiana.

I noticed you said Louisiana. Louisiana is not New Orleans. Until you come here and meet and talk to people you don't know shit.

So fuck your racist ass. This is NOT a family site you fucking asshole, this is a political site. If you don't like it then fuck off.

Whoever told you this was a family site??? Where did you get that idea?

I say fuck you and until you come here to NOLA you don't know shit.

Suck it, you racist mother fucker.

Fuck you, pussy.

Fuck you, pussy.

Not a Family Site

Its not. Some users on here like the Country Club style of having everyone in agreement and no one loosing their cool for arguing their point. I say Bullshit. Some of us Crave Liberty more than others. Those who do are blunt. Grow Up. Read the news too. Shits happening Family site? No Don't play that card with me either. Revolution is brewing Nationwide especially n New York. Those who wont fight will come on here and bitch and moan about how much they know and how right they are in Their Country Club everyone's happy and everyone knows everyone little paradigm.

Fuck Off

I'm a Individual.

Were getting sick of it. Sick your this groups shit and sick of the establishments shit. Those who call someone a murderer will not fight or help you. Nor will I ever come to help you.

And every time someone says something that "seems offensive" "off color" or goes against the what has been accepted is always ridiculed or in this case voted down. Don't worry we only needed three percent to start this country and that is all will need again.

Playing the Racism card is always much easier than arguing with someone with cognitive responses formed with logic and reason.

You can go Fuck yourselves.

"Freedom is Popular"

That wasn't a manifesto, for

That wasn't a manifesto, for crying out loud. Have people completely lost the ability to think? It sure seems like it at times.

Presented for your convenience:

A public declaration of policy and aims, esp. one issued before an election by a political party or candidate.

I disagree

I think he stated his aims quite clearly, and undoubtedly it was public. Not to mention he has politicized/questioned the law enforcement branch of state government almost in its entirety.

And really, arguing the grammatical semantics over the merit of the post seems rather trivial.

Sure, why not. The rest of

Sure, why not. The rest of the country is in the gutter, why care if people mean what they say?

I don't know how old you folks are

but on 4 March 1991 I was activated from San Diego to Lost Angel-Less in support of the Rodney King riots.

That man may have been a scumbag from the beginning, but it was unacceptable that the Corporate Officers for Policy enforcement (a.k.a. COPs) or POLICy Enforcers (a.k.a. Police) kicked the living crap out of King.

Because of thier THUGGARY and INCOMPETENCE as basic humans, I spent an eternity in the GD hot freeking SANTA ANNA Desert WINDS. I was a Supply Sgt placed in charge of a partol section. By the time the first patrol ended, I had no finger nails on my left hand and my right had was perfectly manicured. Why? My basic issue weapon was a 45cal Pistol, while my section had the M16A2. My right hand never left the pistol grip of the Colt that was in my shoulder holster.

I also interacted with some of those A-hole officers during that time. They were gunning for more and I was trying to stop both sides and protect the Koreans on Crenshaw Blvd.

I can only agree with these testimonies at face value. Naturally, I do NOT condone the extreme actions that one may take, but I can understand the culmination leading up to any terrible events one might do.

If more officers will step forward and kill innocents?

As if we can trust MSM but Dorner took out THE DAUGHTER OF HIS LAYWER AND HER HUSBAND.

Step forward? In what way do Dorner's ethics reflect ours but hurt over racism? Show my any other way.

There is something bent going on here with our thinking but if you read Dormer's manifesto again, he's close to turning his weapons on us.

Most of those who think so actually don't and most of those who think sew actually rip.

Thanks for posting this!

Powerful manifesto, I encourage everyone to read the whole thing, it ain't very long.

The best bits:

3. Government and Politicians please be diligent in the responsibility of creating Laws that protect those who could be the victim of a conspiracy. Never allow the door to be shut on the Truth.

4. Honest and Fair LAPD & All Agencies: Keep doing what you are doing to protect citizens and be safe while you are doing so. We need you and I would hope that you do not allow the Bureaucratic drama and Stress to kill your morale as I know it can.

5. Unethical LAPD & all Agencies: Whatever is was that lead you down this path, Pray to somebody’s God to forgive you and begin to remove unethical methods to your policing style. Always think what if it were you, How would you feel?..How would you like if you were falsely accused and your life, lively-hood and career was taken from you? How would you like if someone was beating on you just because they felt they could get away with it? You are no better the criminals you took and oath to arrest when you do what you do!

pretty compelling..

It seems genuine to me.

'Peace is a powerful message.' Ron Paul