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Israel Anderson: Ron Paul has NOT gone to the UN to strong-arm RonPaul.com

Great video and explanation about the Ron Paul vs RonPaul.com story.

http://youtu.be/fAwgSWzQFwQ

http://ronpaulflix.com/20...



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Never trust politicians.

Never trust politicians. Never put people on pedestals.

That said, the message of liberty is still golden.

how do you know he didn't?

explain this to the owner of the site. Are you also a fly on the wall?
Seems mighty arrogant to me when you make such a demand - that Ron Paul should? needs? to explain it to you.
Whatever time or money you used to campaign for him was your choice. You take responsibility for the things you do.
Ron Paul needs to explain nothing to me nor do I feel he owes me anything. I will always owe him my gratitude, though, because he helped wake me up.

If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.
James Madison

How do YOU know what happened?

The owner of the site has made their "version" of events public. Ron Paul has filed a complaint, which I read. I have an opinion. You have one too. Neither of us know what exactly is going on here, it would be nice to hear Ron Paul give his side.
I have a great deal of respect and admiration for Ron Paul, but I do not think he is perfect. Sorry if that offends.

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

Just as I figured.

The media will jump on any chance to defame Dr. Paul.

What a load of crap.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

I agree about the media's opportunism

But the load of poop is Ron Paul's silence..

Is money really more important that people? What's Ron Paul's message?

If anyone wishes to be the judge on this case, or a member...

If anyone wishes to be the judge on this case, or a member of the jury determining the facts and ultimately the law...

Read the full case!!

Thank-you JeffTS for at least that simple explanation of one of the primary issues being obfuscated!

Enough already of the innuendos, defaming, false statements of fact, jumping to conclusions, and... ad infinitum! It is mostly due the lack of reading the case and understanding the facts!

It is 'liberty simple'!

Read the full case!

Then and only then, should DP'ers and all other patriots of liberty and constitution, sit on that jury!

'All the world is chaotic din and discord, while
Freedom is being squandered by envy!'

I read the complaint

Comment above. I will read more if you point me to it, but it still smells like BS to me.

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

You studied all of this below?

First let's all understand that the initial demand was $848,000, in response to Dr. Paul's initial and simple request!

Here are the starting points:

http://www.ronpaul.com/images/Complaint.pdf - 13 pgs.

and

http://www.ronpaul.com/images/Annexes.pdf - 52 pgs.

The complaint sections especially which deal with grounds for establishing existence and quality of property; then the genesis of the action and it's initiating facts; the requirements for action and the grounds for action, etc. I think any reasonable person, especially liberty educated, will see through the smoke of propaganda and discern the real core issues. Most that has been written on this has been sadly based on disinformation and ignorance.

Understand the issue in common law and just law, then reviewing the annexes which do provide much supporting law and contracts.

I am hoping to provide something from one of the top trademark attorneys in the USA, who is also a liberty and constitution patriot.

Freedom unites. If we clarify the issues we will be united once again. I have found no grounds for condemnation of Dr. Paul. It is sad that parties involved did not carefully weigh their options and their natural influences.

Demanding $848,000 for Dr. Paul's simple request was unconscionable! It is not even a good joke.

Thanks

No, apparently I had only seen part of the complaint. Thanks for the links. I agree, the first price was ridiculous. OK, so now it seems like both sides are being turds rather than sit down and work it out like allies.

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

what is your problem?

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If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.
James Madison

The way Ron Paul is handling this.

Yes, I have a problem with it, on the facts I can find. I would love to hear HIM explain what he is doing and why, but his complaint makes a pretty lame story. For me. You are free to think what you wish, but that site has been very good for Ron Paul, and it seems he is treating the owners unkindly to me.
Furthermore, it is not the first time I have seen him be unkind to the grassroots people.

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

Israel, no offense, but if

Israel, first thanks for the information. Second, and please don't take offense, but if you are going to make something "short and sweet" don't repeat yourself 6 times. We heard it the first time.

In any event, for those that didn't get it. When Tim purchased the domain name he agreed to have any dispute resolved using ARBITRATION, which is a process that is so common today.

It is a voluntary agreement that parties enter into that waves the right to a trial in a court of competent jurisdiction, but instead submit to an arbiter who decides the case. Arbitration usually have very limited discovery process etc and there is no jury. It is a "judge" AKA arbiter who decides the case. Most credit cards and other consumer/employment agreements have clauses providing for arbitration to resolve any dispute.

For more information on ICANN ADR (Alternative dispute resolution) go here:

http://www.icann.org/en/help/dndr

If you disagree with me on anything you are not a real libertarian...

Brian... no offense, but if it has been repeated 6 times and...

we all heard it the first time...

why did you scold Israel, then repeat it again for us!?

:)

Israel did a great job on that portion!

I didn't repeat myself. I

I didn't repeat myself. I clarified what Israel didn't discuss.

If you disagree with me on anything you are not a real libertarian...

heh

I kinda figured this from the start.

Bump

for truth

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Of Course - and thanks very much Israel.

I don't think it's strange that RP filed the dispute, and I really hope he gets the domain!

Debbie

"P.Au.L" was the first perpetrator of this claim on dp

i remember well.

one of you go down in flames this day, you or israel anderson

my money is on you.

Knew there was more to the story

And Ron Paul Flix helps clear up some of it. THANK YOU.

and now he's gonna get the flak

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I was very disappointed

That so many users on this site believed the website

I saw many facebook posts expressing that they thought ronpaul.com was under dr. Paul's control, and many stood by dr paul

Sigh...

"Truth is Treason in an Empire that lies" - Ron Paul

Educate the masses, and win in the end.

Yes, how quick they are to throw him under the bus

I swear they act like a lynch mob full of lemmings, so quick to turn against him...

Exactly

Many probably just read the headline and immediately started to bash Dr. Paul, its like they never trusted him in the first place!

Regardless, Many facebook users started to call out this "owner" of ronpaul.com and unliked his page.

Whats in a name? Well, everything a man has worked and stood for! Dr. Paul is understandably outraged at this 800,000 FRN SCHEME and them ruining his name.

Well, its good to see some took the time to look beneath the surface!

"Truth is Treason in an Empire that lies" - Ron Paul

Educate the masses, and win in the end.

tell me about it

was banned while flaming this nobody god knows who when he said ron paul simply "cashed in" in his 2012 run when in reality ron paul deposited all remaining money to C4L, not keeping any for his own and now he's trying to save everyone's money that's been donated from the ridiculous 250k request from that pos "owner", hopefully i was not flaming a mod because that means how low this place has gotten, judging from his reaction to exercise his mod administrative power. if it's from michael, well, that makes much worse, lmao.

bunch of fucking psychos around here i swear. not a pun on you

Haha

I laughed regardless. Yes, its a very sad sight to see people here no looking beneath the headline...

"Truth is Treason in an Empire that lies" - Ron Paul

Educate the masses, and win in the end.

I up voted, but I guess someone thinks Ron Paul is going to the

U.N.!!! and down voted this.
Sometimes people will believe what FOX News reports.

It is related to the UN

I find Israel a bit disingenuous in this. And I don't know why everyone here is so OK with Ron Paul not at least SPEAKING to the people involved. Do you guys not understand that this person did a HUGE favor to Ron Paul by running a REALLY good site under his name? It could have been a smear site!

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