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Ben Carson has my spidey senses tingling

Before you down vote me into oblivion for daring to question this guy, hear me out...I had some time to kill today so I listened to a lil' neocon propaganda. Along with some beers...(especially during Hannity) and I noticed a reoccurring theme. They all had a huge chubby for Ben Carson. As if he were the second coming of Reagan or Christ. You could hear their forked tounges working through the drool as it spattered on their microphones. From Ingraham to Hannity, Limbaugh to Beck and Levin. Even some no-name, up and coming neocon talking wannabe's all worshipping Dr. Carson.

Now ill admit, I only heard soundbites of the speech but as I said before in an earlier post regarding BC "anyone who hannity vehemently supports automatically makes me disregard them" I was met by like 8 downvotes for stating that. I might be wrong but it sketches me out. Whats the m.o here? These guys follow a script so why is the script telling them to get a hardon for Ben Carson? Just had to get this off my chest, twas bothering me. Thank you and input would be appreciated. Beware the neocon propagandists

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JustLiberty4US's picture

Being skeptical is good.

Being skeptical is good. However, I think it is important to stay objective. The reason the neo-cons love Carson is because he basically put Obama in his place and criticized his policies; for obvious reasons, they can't call Carson a racist. How wonderful is that? If I was a neo-con, I would be all giddy too.

There aren't a lot of African-Americans with Carson's accomplishments who would not go along with Obama. I can't think of anyone else.

I think Carson is the real deal and I admired him for his courage at the Prayer Breakfast.

Beyond your sound

reaction to the state media putting someone on high, which should cause us all to pause.
There will not be a man / woman that will take upon themselves the responsibility that rightfully falls on each of our shoulders as individuals to take control of our selves.


Liberty = Responsibility

BMWJIM's picture

LOL, I thought it was just

me , smelling a setup. Something just doesn't ring true. Presently I'll reserve judgement but that feeling just doesn't want to go away. MaMa always said to trust your gut.


1976-1982 USMC, Having my hands in the soil keeps me from soiling my hands on useless politicians.

Don't be ignorant

Just because someone goes on a show does not mean they are a neocon.
Liberty movement and Ron Paul lovers you are gonna have to start being wiser about how you promote his ideas.

Use whatever means you can to get the message out more people need to be exposed to the movement.

"Once you become knowledgeable, you have an obligation to do something about it."- Ron Paul

sorry, but

all I hear when I listen to Dr.Carson is someone who does not think that taxation is theft. Instead he thinkS it is a duty... for everyone.
I think it is Neo-Cons who are so worked up over him, and this site had a lot of neo-cons come over from the last election...personally, it sounds to me like he(Carson) could study up on the NAP. And I havent heard a word about where he stands on Economics (does he even acknowledge Austrian Economics?) what about Non-Interventionist foreign policy?

I'd rather have a bottle in front o' me than a frontal lobotomy

don't get too carried awaya

Remember all those guys loved Ron Paul, too, until the election cycle started.

write this down...

Rubio will be the next President. In fact, there will never be another white man elected as President of this Country again. Is that good or bad? I don't know, but I will say that no white man will ever be President of this Country again. That means for all you Rand Paul fans, hang it up, it's not going to happen.

I could go into how many White votes Romney got and and how man white men voted for him, I think it was 66% male white vote, which would be a land slide at any other time in the history of this Country, but White Men are out when it comes to the Presidency of this Country. What attracted people to this Country in the past can be done better according to those who feel Obama is doing a great job.

Carson is not someone I would vote for because like the man who started this thread said, anyone who gets the support of these neo-cons loses my vote immediately.

Well... I sure loved the message.

Watch it in full some time and you'll see why.

As for the messenger, he's not done just yet, so we'll see what else he has to do or say.

But just because Hannity and company are loving this guy doesn't mean that Dr Ben Carson is taint. It would be nice if we didn't have to peg any labels to Dr Carson or anyone for that matter.

I believe in the freedom to be what we choose to be.

He's Oz, man

It's calculated.

GOP is no longer a body of people.

Carson is re-teaching the GOP:
Forget Racial tension - Brain
Liberty & God-fearing - Courage
Critiques Obamacare w/ industry knowledge of pediatric neurosurgery - ironically, Heart

...basically, he's bringing the GOP back together. - Home

(I doubt he'll run. I suspect Paul/Cruz will be the ticket.)

Like I said, he's Oz.

How bout this match....

Dr. Rand Paul and Dr. Ben Carson in 2016!

I ike it!



You are right on!!

I posted this elsewhere on this site and I'll post it here again.

One of two things will happen -
Dr. Carson will cave in to the GOP platform which is -

- legislate morality for everyone
- funnel billions of pilferred money to the MIC so we can kill many in other lands AND here if they dont like them
- sacrifice everyone for Israel
- full bore drug war
- lip service to anti-abortion and fund planned parenthood
- hold ZERO financial folks(FED) responsible for anything they do
- build up the debt


If he doesnt cave on these items, he'll disappear from the limelight and all of the sudden he WONT be "wonderful".

I read his book written quite a few years ago. He is brilliant and a hard worker, who came from almost nothing, no doubt. He is legit form that standpoint.

BUT, like you said. ANYTHING Faux news or CNN is pushing, Im not buying.

Jackson County Georgia

War is an instrument entirely inefficient toward redressing wrong; and multiplies, instead of indemnifying losses.
Thomas Jefferson

WHat are Ben's policies? Is

WHat are Ben's policies? Is he a neocon?

If you disagree with me on anything you are not a real libertarian...

What's his view on 9-9-9?



is that three 9" pizzas for a discounted price?

I'd rather have a bottle in front o' me than a frontal lobotomy

Are you seriously

this caught up in your fantasy world? Or are you just an idiot? Hannity has a "chubby" for Carson because Carson is one of the first black men who has been able to articulate and sell rightwing ideas better than a white man. Obviously Fox has a chubby for him, it takes race out of the equation. The first thing liberals do is accuse people on the right of being racist. This isn't that difficult to figure out, maybe you should try to think these things through and realize that these people are real humans with real lives before you take to online forums to treat them as means to your absurd ends (either that or lay off the Milwaukee's Best).


Ad hominems AND claiming I like that cat piss you call beer...dude. without getting your panties in a bunch we can agree to disagree. You love fox news and do not think anything is "awry" when the entire neocon propaganda apparatus is pushing a guy down our throats and I happen to believe there could be something more to it......have a good day chief

"I am Troll fighter, number one"



Vigilance is underrated.

Up voted.

He's a REAL guy, a self-made

He's a REAL guy, a self-made man. That's all itll take for me to choose him over another puppet like Bush and Obama. Self-made guys at least have a CHANCE to be real leaders.

Ventura 2012

My Problem with Ben Carson

His take on education. Kids need to know the quadratic equation, he says. True, good point.

But we need a much broader education than that. Everyone should know how to build a building and get a permit for it. Everyone should know how to grow food and fix a car - the basics. Everyone should be able to do good arithmetic. Algebra just isn't as important.

There are enough 'smart enough' kids in America to compete. Teaching the world algebra is not going to fix the world. Teaching them about the constitution, liberty, etc. might.

ecorob's picture

Are you effing for real?

Your post is beyond comprehension.

The quadratic equation is Dr. Carson's metaphor for all the higher "learning" that he wants to see (more of) in school.

I guessed you missed the part where he referenced the 6th grade level test that students of the 1800's were expected to pass and how he doubted that graduating college students of today could pass it?

Surely, man, you are not THAT stupid?

Or, do you split hairs for a living? Do you live inside a box?

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

You are losing it, dude.

Carson is a man on TV, with VERY little vetting done. The people at the DP are your allies. Even if you disagree, calling them "stupid" is cutting off your nose to spite your face.
You are likely to wind up eating a LOT of crow over this. Can you find anything in you willing to stop zealously promoting this man and just sit back and watch for a while? There is no election tomorrow, no one has to make any "final decisions" yet.
Seriously, your posts the past few days have been a bit erratic. Why don't you take a nice vacation?

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

I got hit with the "stupid comment" too

Simply because I do not trust fox news/talk radio and the narrative they shovel. I never thought that would happen here...

"I am Troll fighter, number one"



Not the spidey senses!!!

SPidey's spidey sense sucked. It aoways tingled right before he got his a$$ kicked...
But I agree. My comment from the "& fascinating facts" thread:

7 much more interesting questions about Dr. Carson
Submitted by fishyculture on Mon, 02/11/2013 - 10:21. Permalink

1. How does he feel about vaccinations?
2. How does he feel about alternative cancer treatment, and my right to access "alternatives" FIRST, if I so desire?
3. How does he feel about the right to home school?
4. Does he have any questions about 9-11?
5. What does he know and feel about the USS Liberty
6. What does he think of the SPLC and AIPAC?
7. What does the SPLC think of him?

A "made for TV" movie about him already? C'mon folks, we are being spoon fed. How did he get on that podium to begin with? When is Chuck Baldwin going to be invited to the prayer breakfast?

I spent a little time trying to answer some of my own questions. I cannot find where he has ever said a word about 9-11... OK, not everyone is on the front lines of that battle... But I cannot find a word about his thoughts on vaccines. He's a pediatric neurologist, seems like he would have spoken on that topic. This guy looks like he is "made for TV" in my opinion.

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

A FAR more interesting question would be :-

Would he be willing to sit down and discuss the issues with Ron Paul, Judge Nap, Tom Woods etc?

Because I bet he hasn't thought much about all sorts of issues and policies yet.

"In the end, more than they wanted freedom, they wanted security. They wanted a comfortable life, and they lost it all -- security, comfort, and freedom. When ... the freedom they wished for was freedom from responsibility, then Athens ceased to be free."

That is a very good question.

In the Hannity interview, he was asked about what politicians he thought were doing a good job. He came up with "Rubio."
He also said he did not understand why the GOP could not get any further than the Dems, he clearly does not understand that we only have on party. He may be a nice guy, but he has yet to display any true understanding of the problems this country faces.
Yeah, Rubio. Not either Paul or even Amash.
'Nuff said.

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

ecorob's picture

Two weeks later and you are still copying and pasting...

the SAME post about Dr. Carson.

I would have thought you would have done your research by now. I guess I was giving you more credit than you deserved.

I'm disappoined in you and am removing you from my friend's list.

This guy picks himself up from extreme abject poverty in Detroit, no less,to become one of, if not, the greatest pediatric neurosurgeon of ALL TIME and you mock his life? He learned to separate twins joined at the BRAIN, for Christ's sake! HE figured out how to do it!

What the hell have you done in your life, FC?

Thats what I thought. God forbid you have the same start in life he did...I would like to see where you would have ended up.

Watch the autobiography of his life, "Gifted Hands", and then come back here and say he is a "made for tv" man.

He also puts God FIRST in his life! Is that made-for-tv too?

Your pathetic posts are beginning to sicken me.

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.


Well, after having my virginity raped away and my mother telling me I was a lying slut and being sent to live with my brother, I dropped out of school and married my husband. I got my GED and then went back to college and graduated valedictorian. I went on to run the largest eye clinic in Idaho and became in international continuing education instructor... Oh, wait, you don't really care what I have done with my life, do you? You are just on a tear lately.
Let me explain how the intertubes work for you... When you post something, it stays up there. I posted my list of questions twice. They remain unanswered, and they will be there next week and the next week... In a couple months you can pull this post up again and get mad all over because now it is MONTHS later and my post is still there...
This man is a puppet. I spent an hour listening to the man on Hannity yesterday, and still, no answers.
This man is being shoved down ours throats. If you are so desperate for a leader, follow him, I don't care. Why you are so angry at me about it is ... well, your problem, not mine.
And just so you understand, I love the DP, as a whole, whiners, wankers, thinkers and stinkers. You are all "my friend" at a certain level, but there is really only one person here who knows me. That person is truly my friend and if he stopped being my friend, that would make me sad.
You have been an emotional wreck the last few days, if it makes you feel better to "unfriend" me go nuts, but you really need to understand it has no effect on me at all.

Love or fear? Choose again with every breath.

These are all very good questions but it all depends on

His view in his religion. I have a feeling that he might like Walter Veith who is a fellow SDA. And if you like Walter Veith then you'll see that these questions are all very relevant.
Here's a link to what SDA's believe regarding all these questions. The answers can be found in the various videos called:
-New World Order
-Wars Tyrants and Revolutions
-Mists of Time
-Man behind the mask
All these videos have something to say about health

I doubt he believes in vaccines.

Upvote For Skepticism and Discernment

I haven't yet even peaked at this guy. I like to let the hot air blow by me before I settle in to assess.

I enjoyed your words of caution. We know Their talking points are not randomly determined by the decisions of the hoi poloi.