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2 Things I Really Disagree With Ron Paul About

I didn't watch a single second of the State of the Union address...I wrote this instead.

1. America is not, "broke."

2. Communism is not dead.

I am not playing the devil's advocate here, I'm simply being objective. Please read the article below.

How many times have we heard Ron Paul say, "America flat out broke, we're going bankrupt."

"We're broke, we can't afford it anymore!"


3 minutes, 24 seconds into the video Ron Paul says:

"There will be no other choice but for us to face up to the reality that, we are broke."

Sorry Ron, but I do not agree.

If America was really financially, "broke," then how can we afford all of these new drones and 1.65 billion rounds of ammunition for the Dept. of Homeland Security? Why are the lights still on if we can't pay our bills?

Seriously, just think about the amount of taxes every American pays...half of every dollar you earn goes to the federal or state government, but they're crying poor? Do the math people! Property taxes, income taxes, sales taxes, gasoline taxes, tobacco, etc. combined!!!

Get real. Ever hear of a Black Budget? That's just 1 of AT LEAST 10 different sets of "books," Uncle Sam keeps.


America Is Not Broke! We Are Being Lied To

"Contrary to what the power brokers would have you believe in order that you’ll give up your pension, cut your wages, and settle for the life that people live in a third world country, the globalists want you to believe that you are broke and there is nothing you can do about it.

America is not broke, not even close. The United States of America is awash in wealth, cash, proprietary assets and an unimaginable amount of mineral wealth. What belongs to the people has been transferred, in the greatest theft in world history, from the workers and consumers to the banks and the portfolios of the criminal elite gangsters which control the politicians with insider-trading and outright bribes."


Underground Wealth

"Americans are lamenting that our budget deficit is approaching $17 trillion dollars. Our national debt and deficit is a drop in the bucket compared to the assets that our government controls.

Far beneath the ground, the federal government owns the rights to mineral and energy leases, from which they receive royalties, rents, and bonus payment, states the Institute for Energy Research, an industry group.

According to their estimates, government states that the assets are worth $128 trillion.

That’s almost eight times the national debt."


CAFR’s the Great Hidden Money Supply

"For over a decade, accountant, Walter Burien, has been trying to raise public consciousness over what he says is a massive conspiracy, totaling trillions of dollars, hidden away in funds maintained at every level of government."

Full article linked above -------------------------

On the 2nd point about communism...

Ron Paul says at 36:20 in the video below


"So, the Really BIG question I think that we have to decide upon is WHICH WAY ARE WE GOING TO GO? We see the end of an era, where's it going to go?




I completely disagree.

The, "end of an era???" Really? What era is Ron talking about ending? That scares the crap out of me...

Ron Paul doesn't think there is going to be another Marxist come along to restore enthusiasm for Marxism......??? Really?

Uh, does Ron Paul know who the president of the United States is?

Did Ron Paul ever pay any attention to what the people of the Occupy Wall Street movement were saying?

Ron Paul has ignored two key, fundamental aspects of the situation we're all in today.

America is not broke, we are being robbed blind...and Obama is a communist at heart. He is not a corporate fascistic dictator.

If Obama was a corporate fascist, the last things he'd be trying to do is eliminating the private healthcare sector of the economy and delivering it into the hands of the state.

The last thing a true corporate fascistic dictator wants is inefficiency, disorder and chaos within his or her own political economy.

The first thing a true communist dictator wants is inefficiency (healthcare, public schools) disorder and chaos within their own political economy in order to become the solution...the, "One," who can save all of us like any true communist dictator always promises.

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we are broke

if you live off credit your are very broke. you work for the one who charges you interest.

Broke =/= Poor

Broke is "I have no money". Poor is "I have nothing". You are talking about POOR. Ron is talking about BROKE. Which we are.

Our Wealth

has been reduced to oil and natural gas that remains underground until Oblahblah hands outs the licenses to the highest bidders.

Ron Paul Was Right

Are you a CPA, financial analyst, bank loan officer?

I don't think people understand solvency. Being insolvent means that your debts exceed you assets. Liquidity is something different. You could be insolvent and still be liquid, which means that while you can't pay all your debts, you still can pay the ones currently due.

Bankruptcy unfolds slowly because people can manage to stave off the inevitable by manipulation.

Look at the numbers:


If you want to look at it collectively, the federal government owes the equivalent of $52,400 per citizen for the $17 trillion of bonded debt, but it also owes the equivalent of $390,000 per citizen for unfunded promises like Social Security, Medicare, and federal retirement benefits. The amount needed from each citizen to pay his theoretical share of the debt adds up to $442,400 and the interest each year (at unusually low rates) is $10,500 if it isn't paid. That is on top of an average of $50,000 that each citizen owes in private debt, and state debt is on top of that.

But, if you are evaluating solvency you look at the person or organization you are evaluating. You don't look at Joe Smith and count Joe Blacks assets in deciding if Joe Smith is insolvent. When you say that the US is full of wealth, that is true. But that wealth does not belong to everyone. One man's wealth isn't available to pay another man's debts. And even one man's wealth isn't available to pay the government's debts unless you want to destroy the nation entirely by confiscating everyone's wealth to pay the governments debts.

The federal government is broke. It can either default directly by saying sorry, and not sending out checks, or it can destroy the value of money, effectively taking away the purchasing power of the money you hold, impoverishing you, in order to keep itself in operation.

The structure and continuation of the current monetary requires that the economy grows. This is so because interest is an extraction of wealth from debtors to enrich creditors. Borrowing simply mortgages future income. It is estimated that 30% to 40% of the GDP each year is transferred into the hands of bankers under the Federal Reserve fractional reserve banking scam. People, businesses, and governments are the debtors, but if they can't get their hands on more wealth, the system breaks down and default eventually occurs. When debt can't be repaid, it must be refinanced and new borrowing funds interest payments when even the interest can't be paid, as is the case with federal debt today. And when this occurs the debt compounds. That means is doubles every X number of years depending on the interest rate.

The economy can't grow. We are entering a new paradigm of long term economic decline. Why? Because the cost to acquire energy has followed a compound growth curve and this means that each year more energy is used up just to acquire more energy, leaving less net energy to fuel the economy. In prior times, this was disguised because total energy production was compensating for the loss, but now that energy production is stagnating, the cost problem is moving tot he forefront. In the early days of energy extraction the costs were very low, so doubling a low cost was still something low. But if you follow the progression of doubling of cost, eventually the absolute increases become huge. (1x2=2; 2x2=4; 2x4=8; 2x8=16; etc., you get the picture).

So yes, the USA is broke and broken.

"Bend over and grab your ankles" should be etched in stone at the entrance to every government building and every government office.

Consider the possibiity of ignorance - please.

If the beginning of thought is I am right no matter what, then the methods by which that "truth" is secured are an infinite supply of the lies demanded to maintain that facade.


"Money Printing" (example 1) is a lie. Credit is not.

There were at least two groups in the often repeated LIE called "The Founding Fathers" (example 2) as Revolutionary Forces were credited with the POWER (supplies to run a defensive war) to drive off the Counter Revolutionary Forces.

That power transfer involves POWER transferred from those who have POWER stored (by ill gotten means or by honest productive means) to those who do not have POWER stored by any means.

This, my fellow Americans, is ignored by too many of us.

By what means does a targeted victim gain access to the POWER required to defend against Counter Revolutionary Forces (or mere crime without the badge), if said victim is momentarily without that means to defend themselves?

Get that straight.

2 lies (at least) at play.

1. Bad, bad, bad, printing money is so, so, so bad.

2. The Founding Fathers were all "in it" together in defense of Liberty.

Printing money is not bad, it is called credit, as a person without power is credited with power because the person without power is worthy of credit according to whoever credits the person with credit, and therefore the power is sent to the person with credit according to the person sending the power.

If you do not understand that, then you are duped. Too bad for you.

The example is provided by our own history.

Revolutionary Forces are Credited with the Credit of POWER, in the form of various types of defensive war making supplies, so as to empower the Revolutionary Forces with the POWER to drive off the Counter Revolutionary Forces.

Call that power transfer anything you want, but know how it works, or else remain ignorant.

So now Ron Paul says we are broke.

Is that accurate information worthy of note?

Who is we?

Is it We The People who are broke?

It most certainly is not "We the Criminals who have made our crimes legal for us to do, and our crimes are illegal for anyone else to do, according to us, without question." who are broke.

That would be a lie.



And this:


Section 4.
The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned.

And this:


"This power, being at discretion, unconfined, and without any kind of control, must carry every thing before it." George Mason

All "Official Sources" let us know that someone is broke, and by that reasoning, either/or, everyone is broke, or only a select (targeted) number of people are broke.

If the Chinese win World War III because the criminals running our supposed National Government work toward that end, for fun, and profit long enough, which is what is happening, then the Chinese Troops (the new World Reserve Currency Power Aggressive War for Profit Stooges replacing our duped Military Troops) landing all along the North Eastern Coast may represent a new Counter Revolutionary Force Invading what was once (1776 through 1788) a Revolutionary Force here in America.

Who would credit the rest of the Country if the rest of the Country would be inclined to drive off the invaders again?

Are we broke or not?

Is Ron Paul right or wrong?

Consider the possibiity of ignorance - please.

Ignorance is an empty bank of knowledge.

Moving onto point 2.

Communism, so called, is nothing short of abject belief in falsehood owned by the victims of communism, or any other False Front that hides the criminals behind it, without question.

Criminals use any name that works as a power to dissect any defensive power that may work to defend against the criminal power.

Call in communism or "Consolidated government" and the end result is the same thing, the criminals pardon their own crimes, the criminals make it a crime for anyone else to perpetrate their crimes, and the victims provide the means by which the victims suffer, in so many words, repeated often enough, throughout human history.


"Society in every state is a blessing, but Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one: for when we suffer, or are exposed to the same miseries BY A GOVERNMENT, which we might expect in a country WITHOUT GOVERNMENT, our calamity is heightened by reflecting that we furnish the means by which we suffer."

Are we broke?

Will the bad guys (by any false name including "Federalists") try to defeat Revolutionary Forces again?

Ron Paul is wrong?



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Seriously, even for myself it took me a while to even come close

Seriously, even for myself, it took me a while to even come close to grasp the actual situation...

it's easy for us to talk and think in the abstract, but we ought to be always careful with language... Anyway, as shocking as it may be, when we hear this "printing out of thin air", we really, really need to not lose sight it ACTUALLY IS NOT AN EXAGGERATION AT ALL, not for the shade of an atom - and take the phrase to the full extent of its implications.

Once again, just sharing with you the charts that punch you hard right into the chest:


with the accompanying question: WHO can seriously think one millisecond that the U.S., especially since circa Q2 2008, has acquired or produced (GDP) in real tangible assets or products IF ONLY A TENTH of the fiat currency reserve differentials (pre-/post-2008) shown in those stunning colored charts?

Can't our eyes SEE THOSE ABRUPTLY DISCONTINUOUS CURVES? Can't our brains comprehend that a pixel on the screen is in the scale of the $ billions?

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.


"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

Greater Point

So If I'm able to live off of credit, does that mean I'm wealthy?

The U.S. can print money at will, but the "wealth" is illusory.

If we had a currency backed by gold/silver then we'd be genuinely wealthy.

"It's just paper money, it's all made up."

Give me a break, we're all

Give me a break, we're all rich off of monopoly money? We're getting taxed upwards towards 40% - 50% of all our funny money not to mention inflation. I'm pretty broke. The entire country is in a depression right now... you think we are rich???

"According to their estimates, government states that the assets are worth $128 trillion.

That’s almost eight times the national debt."

good I gotcha so the government has all the oil and guns and resources, smart thinking.


It isn't half our income. It

It isn't half our income. It is about 35%. About a 1/3rd of htat is from taxes on businesses. If you take out social insurance taxes (which you get back), taxation is actually quite low.

Plan for eliminating the national debt in 10-20 years:

Overview: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2010/09/12/my-plan-for-reducin...

Specific cuts; defense spending: http://rolexian.wordpress.com/2011/01/03/more-detailed-look-a

Maybe not

When they are added together, the self employment tax and income tax came to about 50%. That is what I paid when the powers that be allowed me to practice medicine. I, eventually, was bankrupted into oblivion by well positioned competitors!

There is a big difference

There is a big difference between being wealthy and having a seemingly endless line of credit via the Fed.


We're buying drones with borrowed or printed money. Or future higher taxes.

I choose to believe Dr. Paul because he was up close and personal with the budgets.

Of course when you have the biggest guns on the block, you can bully your way around and who's going to do anything about it.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

Bingo! Cigar for you! we are

Bingo! Cigar for you! we are broke Government is living on a national credit card sot to speak with the ability to create money from thin air. However such creation debases the currency so it will soon make it worthless and the credit card will give the insufficient funds error....

End The Fat
70 pounds lost and counting! Get in shape for the revolution!

Get Prepared!

We are so

poor we cant pay attention! The only thing holding this fiasco together is people still accepting worthless paper in hopes it will continue to be accepted. When China, Russia or any other big player decides that this debt isn't going to be repaid and says they are not going to accept US dollars anymore this whole paper empire is going to come crashing down and you will see how broke we really are.

The bold effort the present bank had made to control the government ... are but premonitions of the fate that await the American people should they be deluded into a perpetuation of this institution or the establishment of another like it-Andrew Jackson

The money that buys these

The money that buys these drones and supports the military/socialist spending is money that is borrowed and "printed" out of thin air.

What you are seeing is fruits from "debt". Think about it, any smuck with a credit card can buy fancy expensive things. Does that make them rich? No, because he will have to pay off his debt in one way or another eventually.

Now the person who buys all his fancy things with 0 debt afterwards would be considered rich.

If this borrowing would continue perpetually without any consequences then we would be rich, but the fact is that debt eventually catches up with you and it has caused us to be enslaved by those who own our debt.

Economics in One Lesson -

Economics in One Lesson - Henry Hazlitt

The Law - Frederic Bastiat

please read those