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Where is the New Testament church in this revolution?

Dr. Common Sense's video inspired me...( http://www.dailypaul.com/274439/blacks-will-follow-obama-to-... )

What he did, is EXACTLY what we all need to be doing; but, I see a common thread in our expressions! Frustration .... Frustration with talkers...

The "state of the union" being broadcasted at us through CONTROLLED media(and the churches) has us not only angry that it doesn't reflect the TRUTH about what is happening to our nation in her waning days, but...it has us jealous and envious of these Tea Party hijackers, congressmen, their staffs, and every other last millionaire talking head as they seem to be prospering personally, at a time when we're all going literally bankrupt on the sinking ship.

More of us need to find our niche in this liberty movement, and fill it...go public...tell the truth, speak from the heart, and just demonstrate the contrast between sincerity and acting with respect to having an ACTUAL concern for Americans not yet born. Where is the New Testament church in this?

What we have been speaking recently, really shows the dichotomy of what a REAL bona fide patriotic movement laying out a path to LIBERTY looks like, against, the EXPENSIVE Hollywood production of the political/religious age old bread and circus show that produces the necessary political lethargy the PTB need in order to complete their quest to destroy America and give it to those same people who Andrew Jackson swore he would "rout..out!"

Americans either think "somebody has my back, so I need not get involved", or, "it's too far gone now, I'll just vote for my own self interests and enjoy THIS life now as best I can".

There is a MARKET out there for bold, truthful, sincere, patriotic speech and ORIGINAL ideas and sentiments regarding what we have seen for years now, what we've been involved in personally since Ron Paul ran in 2008, and what it is we are still DEMANDING at this very hour...but they keep shoveling so much political dung our way; and they just keep hiring and financing and promoting stupid people on the television and the radio...people with mere book knowledge, who live in luxury off camera, and have NEVER ONCE sacrificed anything for people they don't even know...

This is OUR movement; and I am convinced it is still a growing success underneath the political & media surface...and if we restrain ourselves from becoming destructively envious of those who seem to think they are the face of this liberty movement, or the original Tea Party; I think we will continue to be very influential, and we will draw the truly concerned, truth-seeking folks that make up the incessantly weary and disappointed electorate our way...and we will revive them, refresh them with knowledge, provide them solace by confirming that they were right all along in their concerns; and then we will send them to WORK towards the solution!


I recorded this in my travels today[above]...

Proverbs 3:31 Envy thou not the oppressor, and choose none of his ways.

Proverbs 6:34 For jealousy is the rage of a man: therefore he will not spare in the day of vengeance.

Proverbs 14:30 A sound heart is the life of the flesh: but envy the rottenness of the bones.

Proverbs 23:17 Let not thine heart envy sinners: but be thou in the fear of the LORD all the day long.

Proverbs 27:4 Wrath is cruel, and anger is outrageous; but who is able to stand before envy?

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From pre Emmanuel (Jesus) until about 350 AD

reincarnation was taught and accepted. Death wasn't as feared and a burning Hell wasn't known. That was all changed by design to gain control over man and money, by established churches. If one truly belies that the Father God is within each of us, and each lifetime is an opportunity to become closer to God, then he has no fear of death and will not cower before any man. The churches support TPTB because fearful and confused people will take solace in believing that Christ will save them and follow church doctrine without question, giving that church money that they can't always afford to give, hoping for salvation. This is the power that churches have, and they cling to that power, Truth-be-damned.

Free God above all, free

Free God above all, free others as you free yourself, and yes free you enemies.

That is pretty revolutionary.

Two thousand years later we are still asking. Was Jesus right? I don't know about this, Enemies too?

I listen to the MSM and think, these are apple eaters. They have become like gods judging good and evil.

Fox News feeds us the apple, lets us decide.

Revolution is literally re-turning or re-rolling.

Only an individual can turn around. If we all turned around as needed that could be called a revolution.

Returning to sound ideas long tested and proven true, well it begins with me.

I am always being tempted, always returning.

Free includes debt-free!

The New Testament and...

...the King James Bible was, and is for all practical purposes, a government publication. King James I of England was a devout believer in the "divine right of kings," a philosophy ingrained in him by his mother, Mary Stuart.

King James did not encourage a translation of the Bible in order to enlighten the common people: his sole intent was to deny them the marginal notes of the Geneva Bible. The marginal notes of the Geneva version were what made it so popular with the common people.

irrespective of any man...

...does mankind have access to God's Word? Was it preserved, allbeit by the hands of sinful men handling it, and getting it to the printing press...is there an actual accounting of God's revealed Word, so that man is without excuse when he rejects it by choice...and...ends up in a Christ-less eternity?

Did the founders reverence a Creator of their own minds, or, did they pray and court the FAVOR of the God of the Bible who gave His only begotten Son?

The wisdom of our founding, the perpetual longing for Liberty and the urge to secure God-given rights comes from something; and although the ecumenists want to say it's from our inner-female emotions, and follow your Jeremiah 17:9 desperately wicked human heart and make up your own code of conduct; I have to remain dogmatic that that 1611 KJV is a good place to start, as well as agree to long for them marginal notes...because, after all, it seems that's what the contemporary progressive church "leaders" are attacking that the most...hmmmm


"...does mankind have access to God's Word? Was it preserved, allbeit by the hands of sinful men handling it, and getting it to the printing press...is there an actual accounting of God's revealed Word, so that man is without excuse when he rejects it by choice...and...ends up in a Christ-less eternity?"

Just wow.

The church has been usurped.

The church has been usurped. It has the unique ability to garner and fracture the political power that comes from the dependency of the poor. It's why it was put down and eventually usurped in Rome. The preaching and presentation of the Gospel isn't going to be enough to cause actual liberty to spring forth. But the church does hold the keys to the liberty of the earth, not only spiritually, but also in a political sense.

Check it out:

this begs the question...

WHO has the gospel in America....WHERE is it being proclaimed?

John MacArthur summed it up nicely once... 21st Century Christianity in :90 seconds...

mid-afternoon bump...

For discussion...I just renamed the thread...

I can't help get over it...how can we think we're going to really have an American-style revolution, when the New Testament church is too busy managing their budgets and worrying about remaining relevant, yet secretly holding onto their creature comforts and contemplative lifestyles insomuch as they must not draw the ire of the government?

How can they honestly look themselves in the mirror, allow their congregations to pay them and sustain them, as they deny and figit around the edges of what is killing this nation from the inside out? I'm just aggressively going to go after these government-fearing men-pleasers...like that Missouri Lutheran Synod I mentioned in my video... ( http://m.washingtonpost.com/national/on-faith/newtowndebacle... )

Where is the New Testament model for AVOIDING offending people because you stand on Christian principles, doctrines, and His deity? This is the love of money, NOT 'love thy neighbor'...now we can see what a joke ecumenism is; spiritual fornication for no other purpose than to achieve the American Dream! What a bunch of selfish wimps....Jesus said BOTH hands on the plow, and NO turning back...let the dead bury the dead, or you're NOT fit for the Kingdom!

I'm sorry folks, I am overwhelmed and dumbfounded at this hour; Dr. Carlson's prayer breakfast speech put the majority of America's churches to SHAME with his bold points in front of a hostile crowd....

What are we putting in our ear-gates and our eye-gates on a daily/weekly basis, and why?

Thank God we have this venue and technology now, to fight it, re-educate, and by all means COMPETE for minds in this age of confusion, deception, and well-financed media conditioning; we best take advantage of it while we can....we're all itching to bounce this occupant of the White House, but 2016 is a looooooong way off!



I imagine part of the problem is the whole 501c3 status acting as a sort of self-inflicted muzzle on free speech from the pulpit, which discourages much-needed discussion on ALL areas of life -- that and the cranks in the congregations who will flip out at the slightest hint of something political being discussed in the church. The colonial preachers sure didn't act like today's preachers!

That's not to say there isn't a danger in expanding the scope of the church's discussion, if it pushes the actual gospel to the back burner. But that's already being done with fights over whether or not to rip out the old pipe organ and bring in a drumset, or gossip-driven egotistical power struggles over who gets to control things.

There are genuinely good Gospel-preaching churches out there, but they're becoming harder to find.