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That's it, I quit! Glenn Beck just suggested we "bring all the troops home."

Right before the 9:30 break.

"Imagine how uniting that would be!"

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Thank you!

I'm always thinking of arguments like that in my head, it feels good to put it down on (digital) paper once in a while :P

hrmm

Why is this bad? Know it for what it is, but don't denigrate it. This is good, even the hardcore beckians (there are a lot) will now more closely endorse this idea. That's a good thing.

"Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of liberty."

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NOT BY WHAT THEY SAY...

BUT BY THEIR DEEDS YOU WILL KNOW THEM.

Beck is a fraud

Less than 4 months ago Beck was chief cheer leader for that amazing libertarian Romney. How you can go from Romney to libertarian in less than 4 months beats me!

My personal turn around has

My personal turn around has been rather swift. Once your eyes open and you see clearly, there is no going back. Things are happening rather quick and the walls of illusion are crumbling at a fever pace.

For it before he was against it

For it before he was against it before he was for it?

glenn beck is a grade a ron paul ripoff

Anyone who has closely followed his "transformation" knows that he is the high priest in the church of demagoguery.

Sorry to the poster below me...but he isnt "waking up" he is trying to corral people who are slowly waking up and lead them astray. Confuse, divide/distract whatever you want to call it.....if you had watched the guy since the beginning you'd also know he never said a peep about the constitution, freedom and liberty, founding fathers, bill of rights, the fed etc etc etc before Obama got into office. Once he saw Ron Paul was catching on he, (or his handlers) seized the opportunity to jump ahead and be a pied piper for the neocons.

Im really quite fascinated by the guy. Go to my account and read my GB post from 2009 where I was pointing out how he was doubling down on his attempt to hijack the tea party.....the guy now calls himself a libertarian. He constantly cites Hayak, Rothbard and Mises. He constantly cites MLK and GHANDI as being his heroes....he talks about precious metal and the fed/hyperinflation etc....and now he is saying bring the troops home??? Who is he starting to sound like? Anyone? Aaaah thats right! Ron Paul!.......hell ya. So he must have endorsed him and gives him props all the time right? Given that he just sorta adopted pretty much his whole philosophy.....eeeeeagh, no. He bashes him ANY chance he gets. Why?

Please question beck's motives as I am certain they are sinister, he is one of the more dangerous of the neocon propagandists because he has convinced so many people he is anything but.

"I am Troll fighter, number one"

-Ernest

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxWb-ViejPg

You are

wrong. Glenn Beck did support the Constitution. See my response above.

I could care less what his

I could care less what his personal beliefs are. He is a conduit. He has a network with which to reach the masses. All I personally care is that his message is accurate and displayed genuine.

Glenn Beck is a paid actor.

Glenn Beck is a paid actor. He as well as all of the other actors talk great when the other party's guy is president and the next election is far away. Don't believe for one second someone isn't pulling his strings.

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You mad bro?

No need to quit, this means we're winning!

Liberty is hitting the mainstream

The individual who refuses to defend his rights when called by his Government, deserves to be a slave, and must be punished as an enemy of his country and friend to her foe. - Andrew Jackson

Only to be twisted later

When the political winds change.
Can't trust him

Beck must be losing

Beck must be losing subscribers

Do you really think that

Do you really think that libertarians get huge audiences? The Judge couldn't even get more than 25K to watch his show on Fox, which si why it was cancelled. The only person who has some success is Stossel.

If you disagree with me on anything you are not a real libertarian...

Stossel is only on once a

Stossel is only on once a week, not that many people have fox business channel or even know it exists

+1

Not much money in the message of Liberty, for either big government OR big business.

The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.
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Right on

Obvious then why they want to do away with the Constitution. I think the fact that Ron Paul had 2/3 of the House members vote to audit the fed tells us, the more support for freedom and liberty, the more they come out of the woodwork to support it. I just hope it is time as it's not looking good.

The video is here before he

The video is here before he interviews Judge Napolitano. First 15 minutes. He sounds like Ron Paul now... better late than never.

http://www.dailypaul.com/274571/25-minute-judge-napolitano-i...

If you disagree with me on anything you are not a real libertarian...

Thanks!

Thanks for posting this video. Great stuff. Frustrating that he is just now coming out and saying this but its about time

"When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there is liberty."

-Thomas Jefferson

Better late than never. How

Better late than never. How long did it take you to accept all libertarian ideas?

If you disagree with me on anything you are not a real libertarian...

How long? Almost 19 years

Well to start I am only 24 years old and my parents are diehard republicans.. I always considered myself 'republican' but never was too interested in politics because I couldn't agree with either side. I discovered Ron Paul on youtube in 2007 and it opened up my eyes to beliefs that I already had but never reflected enough to discover; my libertarian side. So it took me almost 19 years. I am very thankful that I did 'AWAKE' and I try and respectfully help others awake through intellectual conversations as often as possible. I say conversations, not debates, because I always try and keep my cool when others just get annoyed of being wrong and feeling anxious. Often people will disagree but cannot back up their beliefs with any substance. This usually helps my stance because they see how I keep my composure and stick to basic facts.. Anyways.

I wasn't ragging on Glenn for coming to know libertarians; I am happy that millions saw his interview with the judge. That is why I thanked you for posting the video. I have a new cautious respect for Glenn. for now

"When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there is liberty."

-Thomas Jefferson

Maybe...

the establishment GOP is starting to get it after all: either support liberty, or no longer exist as a relevant party.

I don't play, I commission the league.

Don't hold your breath......

or let down your guard.

The individual has always had to struggle to keep from being overwhelmed by the tribe. If you try it, you will be lonely often, and sometimes frightened. But no price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself.
Friedrich Nietzsche

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I'd say this is a victory.

Just remember how Ron Paul was treated at the debates for even bringing the subject up.

I want the troops home.

I am completely against the wars we are in, the amount of bases we have worldwide, the amount of troops we have deployed, and in general the mainstream idea of governing the world as we try and do. But after reading some of these comments and pondering motives for Glenn Becks statement.. If Obama declared he was bringing the troops home, I would be weary of his motive as well. With all the new legislature allowing Americans to be detained, held in secret prisons without trial, or even murdered, etc.. Now, DO NOT GET ME WRONG; I want the troops home. Just sayin, I might be a little scared of the 'game plan' as to why they were being brought here.. UNLESS THEY WERE RELIEVED OF THEIR DUTIES

Any thoughts??

"When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there is liberty."

-Thomas Jefferson

Beck makes me fume

It drives me nuts that he bashes Dr. PAUL yet tells America we now need to bring the troops home. No apologies for sabotaging Dr Paul's campaign but now glenn gets to quote almost word for word what Dr Paul has been preaching for years. It's mind boggling. They all hated Dr Paul's foreign policy during the campaign but now its okay because Glenn said so.

yes--

a little bit--

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it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

Most of us were once "neo-conned"

I don't presume to have inside knowledge of anyone's motives, especially Glenn Beck's, but I believe most of us were once neo-conned. When we "saw the light" it drove us into deeper research and toward the path to liberty. We ended up here and elsewhere fighting for the cause of liberty.

You can take two approaches to this news:
1. Assume his motives are disingenuous (there's plenty of reason to believe this)
2. Assume his motives are genuine and he has finally seen the light.

I personally would start with #2 with the addition to wait and see where he goes from here. It should be obvious based on what he says from here on out whether or not this is genuine.

I agree. I do not understand

I agree. I do not understand why some people are not open to the fact that some others can change. No one was a libertarian their whole life. So like you said some were neocons and probably took a LONG time to convert. Even Tom Woods admits that...

If you disagree with me on anything you are not a real libertarian...

Agreed. But...

If Beck saw the light, then he would have apologized to Dr Paul. Nope. It get more ratings to bash him on the air.