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Rangel introducing legislation to reinstate the draft

http://video.msnbc.msn.com/morning-joe/50821067/#50821067

"Rep. Charlie Rangel, D-N.Y., talks about the two bills which will reintroduce the draft and require all women to register for Selective Service. Rangel also says that “if a president can’t convince the Congress to support the draft than he should not be bringing the question of war in front of the Congress or the American people.'”




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Many of you are too Young to Remember Vietnam

But a generation of young American boys who were one day sitting in study hall, suddenly found themselves three short months later, stumbling through the jungle with a rifle in their hands. TENS of THOUSANDS of them came home MANGLED and DEAD in black plastic bags. And for what?

If any of the big, bad "liberated" fems out there wanna join the military VOLUNTARILY and go get 'em a big double-handful of carnage, then so be it. But, no REAL man would ever suggest FORCING our young ladies into this. We should cherish them to such a degree that the thought itself is simply unthinkable.

I Remember !

http://vietnamwar-database.blogspot.com/2010/11/vietnam-war-...

United States Armed Forces
{VietNam war 1965-1975} Casualties as of 5 August 2010:

58,267 KIA and other dead (including the missing)
303,644 WIA (including 153,303 who required hospitalization and 150,341 who didn't)
1,711 MIA

KIA=Killed in action.
WIA=Wounded in action.
MIA=Missing in action.

And uncountable numbers of destroyed lives.

A side note: Many young men were forced to give up good jobs when they were drafted .

Thanks Gary.

beesting

I support it

As a federal employee, and a man, I was required to provide proof of signing up for the Selective Service before I could be employed by the Government.

Women aren't given the same treatment. That is discrimination.

Make women sign up for Selective Service to become Government employees too or deny them employment, and make it retroactive. It should also be a requirement of all men and women that wish to be elected to Congress or as President/Vice President to show they signed up for it.

THAT MEANS NANCY PELOSI AND BARBARA BOXER AND HILLARY CLINTON SHOULD SIGN UP !!!!!!!!!

This is like saying rich

This is like saying rich people should pay more taxes because they aren't being hurt enough.

Your looking at it backwards

It shouldn't be about making women become part of the Selective Service. It should be about getting men off it and completely removing this abomination of freedom

Another example

of unethical coercion that principally should remain abolished

New Dealer Fossil

Rangel is an ancient leftover of the New Deal days. He is 82 years old. He has been introducing legislation to restore the draft for the entire 20+ years he has been in congress. In his dreams, Roosevelt will still be president. Nobody ever takes him seriously. The defense department and defense lobby are both totally against a reinstatement of the draft. In that way, oddly, our interests are aligned with Big Defense.

40 thumbs down for Mr. Rangel !

I think the American people or the people in his district should draft Mr. Rangel, and I'll personally give him my old military rifle, to protect himself, and I don't care if he is an old man, let him see exactly what real military life is like first hand !

beesting

What A Bunch Of Discusting Creeps

They all are!

skippy

AMENDMENT XIII

Passed by Congress January 31, 1865. Ratified December 6, 1865.

Note: A portion of Article IV, section 2, of the Constitution was superseded by the 13th amendment.

Section 1.
Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Section 2.
Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

(http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_amend...)

I'll serve as a "military historian"

Like Newt did.

ecorob's picture

Anybody that comes for my son for a draft...

Will go through my dead body!

I hope you catch my drift.

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

Go ahead and "bring the question of war in front of

the American people.” The American people will tell the criminals in Washington to get bent!

America is my country and the only one i will defend

if its not for the defense of my country i will refuse, i will not risk my life for Israel and Saudi Arabia. i hate those two countries and want them out of American government. anyone who tries to force that on you should be put to death by gunfire for treason.

That is why i think Kennedy got what he deserved for sending many to their graves for another country. he was a mass murderer for doing so and got his punishment for it like Saddam did.

Kennedy Did Not Escalate The Vietnam War !

Lyndon Johnson did ! In fact by 1963,when Kennedy was murdered, it was said Kennedy was trying to end American involvement in southeast asia, and that may have been one of the reasons he was murdered.

You see how certain people can change history, by feeding all of us false information!

beesting

The draft is slavery.

http://simplefactsplainarguments.blogspot.com/2013/02/slaver...

Simple Facts and Plain Arguments
A common sense take on politics and current events.

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gilrs and boys

Rangel introducing legislation on the draft is perpetual, he does it every year. Why this democrat from my state does this an example of senility. He and his children (if any) are too old to get drafted. And unless you get your passports ASAP, your love one may be stuck here in this crumbling country.

I fought hard to end the draft

While I never would support the draft, maybe if people were afraid of being drafted, they would take a better look at what they were being drafted to do, such as fight special interest wars to rob money from the working class and give it to the wealthy.

But I do not ever see the draft coming back. They will use the "dream act" or something like that to get people to fight the undeclared wars. I never thought they would be able to think of something worse than the draft, but they sure did.

Make all soldiers voluntary.

Make all soldiers voluntary. No war should be fought without the support of the people. Correct me if I'm wrong but we didn't need a draft to raise an army to fight WWII. If the cause is just people will rise to the occasion. Look at the last draft instituted because of a war started with a false flag operation.. hmmmm

There was a draft for WWII and WWI

I would assume that if it was not needed they would not have had one.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscription_in_the_United_States

IMHO, if we did not have a draft for WWI, we would not have had a WWII, because neither side had the resources to continue fighting. WWI would have ended in a truce, had it not been for the USA entering that war. Without the WWI draft they would not have had enough volunteers to win.

I was unaware of the drafts

I was unaware of the drafts for WWI an WWII thank you for the correction. I was asked to interview a soldier from WWII while in school years ago. The man I interviewed volunteered. I dislike the idea of a draft given that they implemented it in Vietnam. The fact that they used a false flag to get us into that mess only to draft citizens to fight a war based on a lie disgust me.

I'm just out of the shot here

bottom right, a few rows back.
It always comes down to personal responsibility.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9x9pb6U7zAU

This is the article that got my posting privileges revoked:
http://bklim.newsvine.com/_news/2013/05/12/18212165-dr-stan-...

He has a point. The bill will

He has a point. The bill will go down in flames or should....ergo the talk of war must cease.

ytc's picture

Thanks for the heads-up, fishy. But "-1" for NO, NO way!

Mr. Rangel, YOU go to the frontline yourself. And not to the joy-stick game-room for flying DRONES, but be there on the ground in Afghanistan, Pakistan or Yemen, where you fight while dodging drones.

100% agreed except that

100% agreed except that Rangel has the I.Q. of mucus and wouldn't stand a chicken's chance on Route 66.

He's agitated for the draft for years.

What does he do, introduce the bill every session?

New Hampshire and Ecuador.

when commies attack

... Rangel is a puppet on a grand chessboard ...

emalvini's picture

Is This The One Where They Want To ...DRAFT WOMEN...

Man, every freaking thing is upside down...Rangel is plain NUTSO!!

Maybe we ought to entertain drafting old worn out aged Congressmen to fight on the front lines, before than can send anybody else.

Then we will see how that goes over..Effing sociopaths!!

The older I get the nuttier the congress gets..

How did that happen?

lol..

We're Going To Be On The Front Lines Next To...

...Sasha and Malia Obama along w/ Jenna and Barbara Bush and Chelsea Clinton.

The Marine Corp just dumped

20,000 troops. Why do we need a draft.?