32 votes

Today is the day that I have come to Christ.

--------------
Update for those you are criticizing me over my language. I apologize for the error in the use of my language, but know that it is my intent that is important. I will continue pursuing my relationship with God so that I can strengthen my belief in love.
--------------
It has been a day of celebration for me today. Today is the day that I have come to Christ.

I am sharing my story with you to invite you to join in the celebration of my wonderful gift!

I would very much like to share the wonderful news of God revealing himself to me as Jesus Christ! I have been right in my heart with God for a long time, but I have not been a Christian. I have long believed that I died and was reborn a long time ago. However, the message came from God directly and not through the absorbing the teachings of Christ. I didn't understand why God would need to send Christ, thus I never recognized him for Him.

I do believe that when it is said cometh through me, it means that the actual values I am describing did not exist prior to the occurrence of Christ. This was my misconception, because this value was naturally in my heart, and was not taught and was merely self evident, I assumed that prior to Jesus Christ this was the case.

I had heard the words of men “God through Christ” many times and denied them; this is because it is not the case! I am a skeptic of men! I trust no man! God has said to trust only him. And I have written the following and included statements made by Jesus as evidence. This is my testimony.

The problem was that I had not ever sought teachings of Christ words directly. They are nothing more than the truths that I already proclaim in my heart to be self-evident, that I would argue is the core of our libertarian philosophy----Do unto others as you would have them do unto you! Love thy neighbor as thyself.

But we know so little of love that it was necessary for Jesus Christ to come and teach its meaning. I came to Christ through God, from internal reflection –dialogue with God- but I did not come to God through Christ. I was always with God, but the values of which I speak did not exist prior to Christ.

I've spent most of the day today reading the words of Jesus Christ, and sharing my testimony with those who are closest to me. It is cause for great celebration for I recognize him for Him!

John 6:44-45 - So Jesus answered them, "Do not grumble among yourselves. Nobody comes to me unless he is drawn to me by the Father who sent me, and I will raise him up when the last day comes. In the prophets it is written -'And they shall all be taught by God,' and this means that everybody who has heard the Father's voice and learned from him will come to me.

I see now that this message I received from God-- the teachings of Christ, had not been given to world until Christ. I understand that Christ was necessary to deliver the message of the true meaning of God's Law, which is unconditional love. Through this it has been revealed to me and I believe that Christ is the Lord.

We are the judge of no men! We have no jurisdiction over any man, and those who claim they do are evil. I cannot punish a man for anything- when I have no jurisdiction over him to begin with! This applies to murderers even, we must not be angry with them lest we be committing ourselves to stand his trial! We have been told to forgive all men, without condition. It does not matter the crime.

Matthew 6:14-15 - "For if you forgive other people their failures, your Heavenly Father will also forgive you. But if you will not forgive other people, neither will your Heavenly Father forgive you your failures."

Matthew 5:21-22 - "You have heard that it was said to the people in the old days, 'You shall not murder', and anyone who does must stand his trial. But I say to you that anyone who is angry with his brother must stand his trial; anyone who contemptuously calls his brother a fool must face the supreme court; and anyone who looks on his brother as a lost soul is himself heading straight for the fire of destruction.

He taught us that the interpretation of Gods law is not found in the language but it is in the intent, he said it in a way that we could all understand it. He was explaining the law to them! But men are wicked and they do not see their greed and their false belief in jurisdiction keeps them blind for they do not know love.

We pray for the receipt of their grace—their gift! And we must be angry with no one! For we have no authority because we have no jurisdiction!

I did not see the source of this knowledge in the teachings of many who had claimed to come in the name of Jesus. But I see that is because many of these teachers were false teachers claiming to be Christians when they do not know the meaning. Do not know the message. They do not know Christ.

Matthew 7:22-23 - "In 'that day' many will say to me, 'Lord, Lord, didn't we preach in your name, didn't we cast out devils in your name, and do many great things in your name?' Then I shall tell them plainly, 'I have never known you. Go away from me, you have worked on the side of evil!'"

It truly is the belief in unconditional love, and it is the moral baseline for all of the teaching of Christ.

The misconception that I personally attribute not coming to this conclusion is having heard a man say "you must go through Christ to get to God" but I knew this in my heart not to be and that is what I was challenging. I believe this is the meaning of what Jesus said was "through God you will come to Christ"

The distinction is significant because the meaning is that God is actively pursuing a relationship with man through the figure of Jesus Christ but if we don't recognize him as Him, then we are blind. And only the spirit can reveal that.

God has shown me and I have learned. Is that not how we know anything? We see and then we learn? Be careful of that which man hath shown you, because you may learn something that is not love. It is in our nature as man. Trust only in God and you will recognize that which is not love. This is the law.

The is affirmed most succinctly by Jesus in Luke 10:25-28. As Hillel wrote, all the rest is just commentary.

Luke 10:25 - Then one of the experts in the Law stood up to test him and said, "Master, what must I do to be sure of eternal life?"
Luke 10:26 - "What does the Law say and what has your reading taught you?" said Jesus.
Luke 10:27 - "The Law says, 'You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your strength, and with all your mind', and 'your neighbour as yourself'," he replied.
Luke 10:28 - "Quite right," said Jesus. "Do that and you will live."

I would like to add that the commentary is of importance because we know so little of the meaning of love. We must view the world from Gods point of view. Supporting words from Jesus:

Mark 10:5-9 - "Moses gave you that commandment," returned Jesus, "because you know so little of the meaning of love…..”

Mark 8:31-33 – “…. "Out of my way, Satan!" he said. "Peter, you are not looking at things from God's point of view, but from man's!"

I want to add is that this is not about religion or dogma. If it is not love then is breaking Gods commandment as Jesus warns about the dangers of tradition! The warning against dogma was clearly expressed, and it is analogous to those who take an oath and then blindly follow it and commit acts of violence in the name of their oath. Furthermore, he also warned against oaths. I present the following two verses as evidence.

Matthew 5:33-37 - "Again, you have heard that the people in the old days were told - 'You shall not swear falsely, but shall perform your oaths to the Lord', but I say to you, don't use an oath at all. Don't swear by Heaven for it is God's throne, nor by the earth for it is his footstool, nor by Jerusalem for it is the city of the great king. No, and don't swear by your own head, for you cannot make a single hair - white or black! Whatever you have to say let your 'yes' be a plain 'yes' and your 'no' a plain 'no' - anything more than this has a taint of evil.

Matthew 15:3-9 - "Tell me," replied Jesus, "why do you break God's commandment through your tradition? For God said, 'Honour your father and your mother', and 'He who curses father or mother, let him be put to death' . But you say that if a man tells his parents, 'Whatever use I might have been to you is now given to God', then he owes no further duty to his parents. And so your tradition empties the commandment of God of all its meaning. You hypocrites! Isaiah describes you beautifully when he said: 'These people draw near to me with their mouth, and honour me with their lips, but their heart is far from me. And in vain they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men'."

Further, I would like to leave with the following message about false religious teachers. The fruit in reference is to their students. Do their students love unconditionally? Do they claim to speak of their love unconditional yet cast accusations or pass judgment about the deeds of others? They have been taught falsely of their jurisdiction.

Matthew 7:15-20 - "Be on your guard against false religious teachers, who come to you dressed up as sheep but are really greedy wolves. You can tell them by their fruit. Do you pick a bunch of grapes from a thorn-bush or figs from a clump of thistles? Every good tree produces good fruit, but a bad tree produces bad fruit. A good tree is incapable of producing bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot produce good fruit. The tree that fails to produce good fruit is cut down and burnt. So you may know men by their fruit."

My brothers and sisters, believe this, you need not worry! for those who claim jurisdiction over the earth are in contempt of its court, and if they do not recognize their contempt a judgment will surely be placed against them.

Written on 16th and 17th days of February 2013.

Comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.

Just a reminder...

...Ezekiel 16:55-61 describes Sodom (which was utterly destroyed) being restored from exile when Jerusalem is restored. Verse 61 says that this new Jerusalem will receive Sodom (younger sister) and that God Himself will make Sodom a daughter of restored Jerusalem. God's actions in the short-term may be described as 'hate' from a short-term human perspective, but over and over we see the theme of reconciliation and healing and ultimate return from seemingly final judgement -- even with Sodom!

You are only

proving yourself to be childish. Obviously you worship yourself, money, television or other extremely minuscule things. If people want to worship God and trust in Him for hope there is nothing wrong with that. The difference is that you are trusting in things that are very temporal that cannot save you. And we Christians are hoping in something greater than ourselves that will bring lasting joy and hope no matter the outcome of eternity. Your faith and worship of yourself is what's kooky.

Isaiah 2:4
And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

BMWJIM's picture

I'm Sorry your

HEART is so BLACK!

You live without hope. That is sad.

Jim

1976-1982 USMC, Having my hands in the soil keeps me from soiling my hands on useless politicians.

We still need to be loving

please, let your approach be to draw in nonbelievers not push them away.

Here is what Christ says:

John 3:1&17
16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

Isaiah 2:4
And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

What does...

What does Sponge Bob have to say?

nothing relevant to this

nothing relevant to this conversation

Isaiah 2:4
And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

If you want to accept

If you want to accept christian dogma as fact that's fine. Do what makes you happy. However, it's annoying to see people posting about religion on a libertarian poltical website.

True, I could just ignore these kinds of posts, and in the future maybe I will.

This site is the daily

This site is the daily Paul.... After Ron Paul the christian... God loving congress man.

When fascism comes to

When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross.

what do you mean

"when"?

"The two weakest arguments for any issue on the House floor are moral and constitutional"
Ron Paul

Ron Paul

is also very adamant about not wearing his religion on his shoulders.

But congrats to this poster If this makes his/her life happier.

Yes he didn't want it to

Yes he didn't want it to appear he was using it to simply get votes... He truly Loves God

Congratulations on your new walk with Jesus Christ.

May the Lord continue to bless your life.

Now the Lord is the Spirit, and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom. - 2 Corinthians 3:17

Get yourself

a King James Version Bible (only), read it every day and do what it says.

AD in NV

Yes!

And here's a good resource:
http://useKJVonly.com

King James

all the way.

Isaiah 2:4
And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

Congrats. I picked up my

Congrats. I picked up my cross a few years ago. U will never regret it. I will pray for u my friend that you grow in your faith and service to the Lord.

Christ

Ignoramus is the first term that comes to my mind.

"Christ" is not an individual but a title. There have been many christs.

Secondly, there is orders of more evidence for Sasquatch than for a living creature Jesus Christ. Anthropologists, historians and archeologists agree that there is no credible evidence that Jesus Christ ever existed. The entire story is an amalgamation of much older stories that were plagiarized by ignorant shepherds who also believed that the earth was flat.

I pity you for having such a limited mental capacity.

History

100% backs the existence of Jesus Christ and the Bible. More and more the things mentioned in the Bible are being discovered. The Bible even mentions many things that science has just discovered in the last thousand or so years about cleanliness and in the last couple centuries about how 'life is in the blood.' Which if President Washington's doctors would have understood he may have lived.

In the field of archeology alone, there have been a huge amount of discoveries that prove the Bible right. Pontus Pilate, sodom and gomorrah, the ark and many more all have been discovered to be Biblically accurate.

If you are refusing to believe that Christ even existed then you are just willingly ignorant.

2 Timothy 4:3&4
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

Isaiah 2:4
And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

Denise B's picture

It is I who pity you

mcbennett that you have shut your heart and your mind so tightly as not to even allow a ray of light or truth to enter it. Your statement is patently false, and quite the opposite is true. There is no doubt that Jesus Christ was an actual person who walked this earth and no serious historian or archeologists would dare to deny that at this point. Our very system of dating (that you use every day) is based on the date that Jesus Christ was born. One can argue whether or not they believe that Jesus Christ was God in the flesh (of which I myself have no doubt), but to try to argue his very existence is sheer ignorance of the facts, or an intentional outright deception.

I will pray for you mcbennet that God will soften your heart and open your eyes to His truth.

AMEN ;-)

AMEN ;-)

You forgot a couple of gems

You forgot a couple of gems from the bible. Here are my favorite scripture passages. THE WORD OF GOD!!!!!~!!!

You may purchase slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase their children. You may treat them as your property.
- God
(Leviticus 25:44)

When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)

The servant will be severely punished, for though he knew his duty, he refused to do it. "But people who are not aware that they are doing wrong will be punished only lightly. Much is required from those to whom much is given, and much more is required from those to whom much more is given." (Luke 12:47-48 NLT)

I love when people bring up these verses :)

I understand that you are not a Christian based on what you said below about Christ. Slaves in the Bible are different from the slaves we have seen in the last couple of centuries. They were 'bond servants.' This means they worked (like a job many work for today) to pay off an owed debt. Now, have you ever heard of someone working off a debt? Think of it this way: anyone with a credit card or loan, etc. is working off a debt. In other words, we are all slaves to the big banks and corporations and governments above us.

Further, we are all slaves to the law. Even bad laws which the liberty movement seeks to reform. We are ALL slaves to ourselves. One of the things Christ seeks to do is liberate us from ourselves and give us forgiveness.

When you sight single verses from the Bible, or when one does, it's usually in an attempt to take the text, purposefully or not, out of context. I believe that you are looking for reasons not to believe and not really intending to take it our of context, but are reading it for what it says and thinking of it in today's interpretation. That is a wrong way to look at it.

Isaiah 2:4
And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

"Slaves in the Bible are

"Slaves in the Bible are different from the slaves we have seen in the last couple of centuries."

Disagree with you 100%. They are the same.

So it's fine when the OP takes little positive pieces out of context, but woooahhh hold your horses on anything negative. There's a reason for that!

So...

I can't agree with your negative comments? Of course, your comments are welcome! But, as a Christian I am somewhat responsible for giving an answer to nonbelievers. That is what I am doing. Also, I understand that you don't agree with me on the slaves thing because you don't really understand what the context of those passages and the references to other passages are. That is very understandable and I am not trying to judge you for that. I am just trying to answer that concern.

Isaiah 2:4
And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

I never said you couldn't do

I never said you couldn't do anything. Do as you wish.

Unfortunately, I can't spend all afternoon arguing with an internet avatar I don't know over unimportant matters like religion. I wish you health and happiness in life.

you too and thank you

you too and thank you

Isaiah 2:4
And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

lol, this is a joke right?

lol, this is a joke right?

if not I hope someday you can see through the lie that is jesus christ

Cyril's picture

Mind sharing how your life achievements are greater than Jesus?

If Jesus is a lie, do you mind sharing how your life achievements are greater than what is, according to you, only "the lie that is Jesus Christ"?

That shouldn't be too difficult for you to demonstrate most evidently, would it?

Besides, don't you think it'd be a more positive way to defend your presumably more righteous views?

Just curious.

"Cyril" pronounced "see real". I code stuff.

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

"To study and not think is a waste. To think and not study is dangerous." -- Confucius

I've turned water into

I've turned water into whiskey which I believe one ups jesus. Besides, jesus isn't a real person.

And what do my life achievements have to do with the bible. Nice try jackass. Never said I was more richeous than anyone or that anyone should follow my views. Your pulling words out of your ass to incite an argument.