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China's New Aircraft Carrier,(artist rendering)

http://crisisboom.com/2013/02/15/china-s-new-carrier/ Our trade deficit is giving China the funds to develop these weapons,

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Oh, please.

China only recently crawled into the First World. That "carrier" is a dream in the mind of some Chinese general that'll only exist in his dreams. Remember: artist's rendering. That's all it is.

I am convinced that this is just Cold War-esque propaganda to make us scared... again.

Even then, let's say this is real. Here's how we shut it down.

1) Stop or reduce purchase of Chinese products - if enough people do this, it deprives China of funds.
2) Eliminate minimum wage laws - increases job market while reducing labor costs.
3) Reduce stifling regulations - allows start-up businesses better chances at success, encourages innovation.
4) Eliminate income taxes and any other taxes we can afford to eliminate - economy will race forward, far outpacing China.

If all four steps are taken - or even just the last three - China will soon once again become a second-rate nation until their government gets their act together.

Wall Street built modern China

US capital, technology and trade agreements are fueling China's growth and building China's military. It sounds like you think the way to compete with China is to become more like them. Well guess what, China has some of the most protectionist trade policies in the world.

For two hundred years prior to free trade, America practiced trade protection and this produced the most prosperous nation on earth. Bipartisan leaders said free trade would transition America to a "low wage service economy". Transitioning from the world's largest manufacturing and export economy to a low wage service economy is, by definition, a massive economic contraction.

China's unprecedented military buildup is real and may be used to create another Cold War, but unlike the conclusion of the last Cold War, Communist China will win and America will lose. That's what globalization is all about, i.e., picking winners and losers in the global economy. Wall Street has picked America to lose because Communism is very similar to crony crapitalism, and that's the economic model Wall Street prefers. For more info on the subject go to:

http://www.standupforyourrights.me/?p=115

http://www.dailypaul.com/277342 (Rand Paul: One person can make a difference)
http://www.StandUpForYourRights.me/?p=1264 (Fast and Furious hearing)

Drumming up some Sinophobia.

Increase the money channeled to wasteful behavior.

These are banker wars. They get rich financing stupid government schemes on both sides.

Free includes debt-free!

Nothing to see here....keep moving.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-492804/The-uninvited...

American military chiefs have been left dumbstruck by an undetected Chinese submarine popping up at the heart of a recent Pacific exercise and close to the vast U.S.S. Kitty Hawk - a 1,000ft supercarrier with 4,500 personnel on board.

By the time it surfaced the 160ft Song Class diesel-electric attack submarine is understood to have sailed within viable range for launching torpedoes or missiles at the carrier.

So...let me get this straight...we spend TRILLIONS and TRILLIONS on defense, and our defense systems don't even work? If they did, why could this Chinese sub just sneak up on our fleet? And more importantly, if our defense systems did work, why did Pearl Harbor and 9/11 happen?

I'm a serial entrepreneur and liberty activist from Texas!

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www.NonNetwork.com

Why did 911 happen...

It was a false flag to kick off the War on Terror, Patriot Act, warrantless wiretapping, Homeland Security, NDAA....US leaders are helping China build up their military as a means to feed the perpetual war machine. For more on this thread, scroll down and look at some of the comments, or click on this link.

http://www.dailypaul.com/comment/2967936

http://www.dailypaul.com/277342 (Rand Paul: One person can make a difference)
http://www.StandUpForYourRights.me/?p=1264 (Fast and Furious hearing)

ditto

for Pearl Harbor and WWII.

This is what's funny. The

This is what's funny. The aircraft carrier is now old tech. The us has a supersonic missile that can hit anywhere in the world within 45 minutes. Now the Chinese are going to dump a boat load of money in something that ban be sunk easily. The only thing these floating tubs are good for is projecting power over 3rd world nations.

It's a photo shopped

Pontoon party boat. They forgot to remove the bow mounted trolling motor.

On some great and glorious day, the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be occupied by a downright fool and complete narcissistic moron.

Hogwash.

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Free includes debt-free!

Resources

They have trillions to play with and have growing beligerent upper middle class due to their corrupt bureaucrats.

They will have a massive Navy imo. ie. I read they are building many subs and thus India is forced to do as well. I think China must have around 50-60 subs already. 5 of those are nuclear.

I think they also have 25 destroyers and 50 frigates

Australia has 4-6 subs I think btw.

http://gcreport.com/index.php/analysis/190-the-naval-balance...

donvino

China's Unprecedented Military Buildup

America is running an annual 300 Billion trade deficit with Communist China. And this trade deficit is subsidizing China's military buildup. This is treason considering Iran and North Korea are client states of China and China is using them to threaten the United States. The video clips below are from a Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing. They're each about 2 minutes long and demonstrate that China is arming Iran with nuclear and chemical weapons.

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/clip/4062076
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/clip/4062085
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/clip/4062088
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/clip/4062073

Many US leaders refuse to tell the truth about China's gov't, i.e., it's a totalitarian Communist regime and is a State sponsor of terrorism. Chinese State owned companies control all major industries in China and are buying Trillions of dollars of assets around the world, including America. Last year, Chinese wives testified before Congress about the torture and imprisonment of their husbands who advocated for political reforms. You can find links to all this information at:

http://www.standupforyourrights.me/?p=115

http://www.dailypaul.com/277342 (Rand Paul: One person can make a difference)
http://www.StandUpForYourRights.me/?p=1264 (Fast and Furious hearing)

Yes

Sooner or later China will feel the need to use the weapons for other than defensive purposes. Countries around them will continually feel the heat. I do not think Thailand's motorized canoes will be much of an obstacle. ;)

ps.

Chinese city bans dogs

http://www.geekosystem.com/china-dog-ban/

donvino

We do the same

While China is arming Iran, every Democrat and 22 Republicans in the US Senate voted to give away 20 F-16's and fifty tanks to the Egypt's Muslim brotherhood government. Only 18 Republican Senators voted against this giveaway.

I agree

Security issues are framed in an faux "us vs. them" context as part of a global divide and conquer strategy, i.e., the US, China and Saudi Arabia work together to play both sides of global conflicts. Syria is a prime example, China backs the Assad regime and the US backs the Free Syrian Army. Another example is Iran, the US frames Iran as a bad guy while China, a US partner, arms Iran. Another example is Al Qaeda. Saudi Arabia is the financial and ideological safe haven for Al Qaeda, but the US calls Saudi Arabia an "ally". This duplicity guarantees profits for mass murdering war profiteers.

The links in my previous comment demonstrate that China is arming Iran with nuclear and chemical weapons. The following links demonstrate that Saudi Arabia is the financial and ideological safe haven for Al Qaeda. And we're aware of the US MIC's wars of aggression.

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/clip/4350335
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/clip/4350463
http://thecounterpunch.hubpages.com/hub/Saudi_Arabia_recogni...

Bottom line, the Globalized Military Industrial Complex (GMIC), is opposed to governments based on individual liberties and unalienable rights. So our Constitutional Republic is number one on their hit list. Free trade, two wars off budget, and the financial crisis are designed to bankrupt our Republic. The bankruptcy of the U.S. gov't will be used as an excuse to demilitarize while China continues its unprecedented military buildup. Global financial elites have chosen China's totalitarian regime to be the new host of the GMIC. Welcome to the new world order from hell. For more on this subject check out the section "Closing the loop on terrorism" in the pdf file "Knowledge is Power". Here's the link.

http://www.standupforyourrights.me/?p=1026

http://www.dailypaul.com/277342 (Rand Paul: One person can make a difference)
http://www.StandUpForYourRights.me/?p=1264 (Fast and Furious hearing)

Exactly the point

We are subsidizing our destruction.

What is the mystery?

The link between the criminals running "our" government and the criminals running Chinese criminal government is easy to see, isn't it?

http://www.reformed-theology.org/html/books/bolshevik_revolu...

http://www.reformed-theology.org/html/books/wall_street/

http://www.reformation.org/wall-st-fdr.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwYA5dansz8

Boom/Bust/Currency Wars/World Wars

The most powerful humans (Legal Criminals) print money to buy wars, that is how they keep the victims powerless.

A third grader could figure it out.

Joe

No, I think it would take a 4th grader.

The problem is, people, even intelligent well educated people, are too trusting and or busy to think critically about "free" trade and "free" markets as adjuncts to anarchical militarism. Sorry about the delayed response, I'm new to DP and just started using my account info to track replies.

http://www.dailypaul.com/277342 (Rand Paul: One person can make a difference)
http://www.StandUpForYourRights.me/?p=1264 (Fast and Furious hearing)

Which one?

Some 4th graders can think their way out of boxes I'm still stuck in, and I have two kids, each one has proven the case to me personally.

As for the specific box needing to be though out of, unfortunately, I let my children go to school, so much of their natural curiosity has been beaten out of them by lies, threats, but no violence.

There is still much hope.

I took a look at my daughters high school economics "book" and found references to The Federal Reserve, for example, and so I offered to my daughter a few words of advice, having to do with the fact that the "book" was filled with lies. She said something along the lines of "I know, dad, I know."

See?

Joe

One which....

has a parent who can point out the lies. My niece is a straight A student in an engineering program, but she, like her parents, doesn't have clue. But I believe people will eventually wake up and create a sane world based on fundamental shared values.

http://www.dailypaul.com/277342 (Rand Paul: One person can make a difference)
http://www.StandUpForYourRights.me/?p=1264 (Fast and Furious hearing)

bear

Connected to this forum are a few people I can call Friends in Liberty, you are one too, or I'm wrong, and I've been wrong often.

I'm going to point you to two places; make that three.

The first comes from bear, and she got it from someone else.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQiW_l848t8&list=PL463AA90FD0...

That is where I am at right now. That confirms about 25 or 30 years worth of my own investigating and reasoning, and in that source of information are many new paths to go and gain more power. I hope it helps you close to as much as it helps me.

http://freedom-school.com/private-property-rights.html

I am partially done with that link and the previous link, but that link on Land Patents is helping me specifically since I am now a broken down Laborer who was making about 70,000.00 per year busting my butt, and ruining my heath, with the obvious result, bad health, and now I paid for a Real Estate License so as to help my wife who had the wisdom to ask me to turn in my 401K plan so that she could start a Real Estate business about 15 years ago. I have a working retirement.

Land Patents are at the root of Real Estate POWER.

I think you know what I mean.

Lastly:

http://www.beatthecourt.com/LAWDAWG%202.pdf

Other people on this forum have helped me move to that place, and I can go on and on and on as to the significance of that information in general terms and specific terms and all terms in between.

OK one more link because a warning is needed. The next link is a link to someone who was my friend awhile ago. He was a truck diver awhile ago, when I knew him, and then I heard about him recently in Arizona, I heard about him through Youtube, and the link you will see if you follow the link. The warning is a warning I found out about when I tried to contact Bill Faust again. It turns out that Bill Faust is no longer my friend in Liberty, he is dead, shot by a person hired to protect and serve, or whatever.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55MO8tBSwsk

I am not as caustic, and not as much a character as Bill Faust was, and I am nearly certain that his "way with people" contributed to his death. I'm not a "Conspiracy Theorist", and I have not been one actively for over 25 years. I even ran for Congress in 1996. I'm just trying to convey to you that you are not dealing with a 10 year old, as if that would matter.

Joe

Theres no ship on your link

No ship there. All I saw was a great big sign read "do not sequester! the military needs your tax dollars!"

Lol!

Lol!

Boom

China is on the schedule to win World War III and then take over the command of the World Reserve Currency Power officially.

If you prefer not to know exactly how traitorous the supposed "leadership" is in this country then that is definitely a problem.

http://www.ushistory.org/paine/commonsense/sense2.htm

"Society in every state is a blessing, but Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one: for when we suffer, or are exposed to the same miseries BY A GOVERNMENT, which we might expect in a country WITHOUT GOVERNMENT, our calamity is heightened by reflecting that we furnish the means by which we suffer."

You get what you invest into.

http://www.usdebtclock.org/

http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/constitution_amend...

Section 4.
The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned.

The few people on the receiving end of war for profit may appear to be unreachable while they currently control the Dollar, and when they start collecting DEBT payments out of China, do you think you can complain better at that point in time?

Joe

Pure Fnatasy and Hoax

Delete this thread.

The design of the rendered ship has many, many, many operational design problems.

It is worthless.

It literally is exactly what you should not do in ship design.

I suspect that most here are

I suspect that most here are not experts in ship building. Could you please elaborate?

BTW

Google: twin hull cruise ship

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Are you sure this isn't just

Are you sure this isn't just a toy rendering from the upcoming The Avengers 2 movie?