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What is Love?

Submitted by Micah68 on Sun, 02/17/2013 - 23:40

It's been really interesting to see the responses to various threads here asking questions such as, 'What is God?', 'What is Liberty?', etc.

I think that all (most, many?) of us here would agree that an essential, if not the most essential factor in fostering a r3VOLution for Liberty, is that it be done with Love.

Given that, I'd really 'love' to hear responses to the following questions:

- What is Love? Where does it come from? Is it something transcendent or not?

- Do you agree that Love is the foundation of Liberty, or is it just a nice-to-have thing on the side?

- Will Liberty last in a society that does not have Love?

I think you probably know my views already from other threads (Christian, Platonic view on ideal Love existing and being essential); but I'm interested to hear the variety of views that are out there on 'what is Love?'.

Kind of fits in with us just having celebrated Valentine's Day, I guess. :)

"What's Love got to do with IT?"

Submitted by billybernardo on Sun, 02/17/2013 - 23:49. Permalink

Tina Turner

LOL

Submitted by Cyril on Sun, 02/17/2013 - 23:53. Permalink

LOL

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My name is pronounced like "see real". Its root is "Lord".

"The demand of a great people is always at the scale of their most serious misfortunes." De Gaulle

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

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Submitted by donvino on Sun, 02/17/2013 - 23:48. Permalink

I would like to hear Hollywoods answer on this one lmao

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donvino

To me

Submitted by RonzdaMan on Sun, 02/17/2013 - 23:47. Permalink

Love is my beautiful girlfriend in her tight jeans and 4 inch heels!

OK

Submitted by Liberty_First on Mon, 02/18/2013 - 00:12. Permalink

But will you love her when she does not fit well into her jeans later while other cute girls are walking around?

Man...

Submitted by V1G1L4NT on Mon, 02/18/2013 - 01:42. Permalink

I think we have a hot girl in tight jeans and 4 inch heels burn here... lol

but very true point ;)

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Isaiah 2:4
And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder."

Submitted by Cyril on Mon, 02/18/2013 - 00:26. Permalink

"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder."

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My name is pronounced like "see real". Its root is "Lord".

"The demand of a great people is always at the scale of their most serious misfortunes." De Gaulle

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

and...

Submitted by Foamfoot on Mon, 02/18/2013 - 04:55. Permalink

beauty is in the eye of the beer-holder.

LOL. Yeah... that, too.

Submitted by Cyril on Mon, 02/18/2013 - 05:04. Permalink

LOL. Yeah... that, too.

We can all recall our 20s (30s?), I see... ;)

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My name is pronounced like "see real". Its root is "Lord".

"The demand of a great people is always at the scale of their most serious misfortunes." De Gaulle

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

^^^ This MAN GOT IT RIGHT !!!

Submitted by Cyril on Sun, 02/17/2013 - 23:54. Permalink

^^^ This MAN GOT IT RIGHT !!!

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My name is pronounced like "see real". Its root is "Lord".

"The demand of a great people is always at the scale of their most serious misfortunes." De Gaulle

http://Laissez-Faire.Me/Liberty

Agreed!

Submitted by billybernardo on Mon, 02/18/2013 - 00:02. Permalink

Absolutely!

Love is like giving someone a

Submitted by Unknownuser on Sun, 02/17/2013 - 22:20. Permalink

Love is like giving someone a gun, pointing it at your heart, and trusting them not to pull the trigger. That is love. Trust.

Unless they shoot you

Submitted by Missy on Sun, 02/17/2013 - 23:48. Permalink

in which case it's foolish lol
No offense, I see what you're saying ;-)

Hey that's true though!

Submitted by V1G1L4NT on Mon, 02/18/2013 - 01:45. Permalink

love is foolish and doesn't make sense sometimes. Love is also caring for someone and being loving in very unloving times and situations...that is very difficult and doesn't seem to make sense from an inward point of view.

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This. http://www.youtube.com/

Submitted by Unknownuser on Sun, 02/17/2013 - 22:18. Permalink

This.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVmbhYKDKfU

Don Draper explains love

Submitted by jrd3820 on Sun, 02/17/2013 - 23:02. Permalink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqGhZ8X2G-Q

Too cynical?

Here, how about this... this is love...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j379JbL-xM

Either one works.

Love is love and to answer OP's question about liberty working in a society without love... well... I guess any society without love is going to have a hard time functioning.

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jrd is still here... kinda in a weird sort of way. She also just might be the happiest girl in the world because she got exactly what she wanted which was a perfect summer wandering playlist.

Sorry, religious folks,

Submitted by Liberty_First on Sun, 02/17/2013 - 21:44. Permalink

LOVE is selfish.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2u193L-EME

How very sad

Submitted by stm on Sun, 02/17/2013 - 22:54. Permalink

you are. Why such intolerance?

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If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.
James Madison

Tolerance?

Submitted by Liberty_First on Sun, 02/17/2013 - 23:44. Permalink

You mean it is tolerable when the King of Love condemns libertarian muslims to torture in hell?

Capitalism finally ended slavery and torture. Why do you tolerate torture from the most "loving" entity? But back to real thing. The link I posted above refutes rationality of "love for your neighbor."

Also...

Submitted by V1G1L4NT on Mon, 02/18/2013 - 01:55. Permalink

God is God. If He wants to just damn everyone to hell and get rid of us all no matter our choices that is His Devine right as the Creator of the universe...

Or can we keep this discussion about love please? :) God is judgement, but He is first love.

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Do we really have to bring that

Submitted by V1G1L4NT on Mon, 02/18/2013 - 01:52. Permalink

to this thread too? We are judged by our own choices. God is loving enough to let us choose. If we choose against Him and our sins are not whipped away we cannot come into His presence. It doesn't matter what your race, religion or political preference is. If you deny Christ He will deny you before His Father and if you accept the free gift of salvation He alone offers then His blood will cover your sins and you will be saved.

Let's focus on this thread as being a more light-hearted discussion please. If you want to debate religion, relationship with God and so forth please do it on the other discussion posts.

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The function of the mind

Submitted by stm on Sun, 02/17/2013 - 21:33. Permalink

is to separate, group and categorize experiences then a judgement is formed based on the character of the individual. One can 'change one's mind' based on new experiences and insight.

Love doesn't divide, but it does conquer all.

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If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy.
James Madison

It is the opposite of......

Submitted by dailypauler on Sun, 02/17/2013 - 21:20. Permalink

Evol....

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All EVIL is being done in the guise of "Some people being better than others." Because: Some ainmals are more equal than other animals. -Animal Farm-
What the? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MTIwY3_-ks

lol so true

Submitted by V1G1L4NT on Mon, 02/18/2013 - 01:57. Permalink

lol so true

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Love is ...

Submitted by LibBerte on Sun, 02/17/2013 - 21:14. Permalink

“Love is by definition an unmerited gift; being loved without meriting it is the very proof of real love. If a woman tells me: I love you because you're intelligent, because you're decent, because you buy me gifts, because you don't chase women, because you do the dishes, then I'm disappointed; such love seems a rather self-interested business. How much finer it is to hear: I'm crazy about you even though you're neither intelligent nor decent, even though you're a liar, an egotist, a bastard.”

― Milan Kundera, Slowness

That

Submitted by Liberty_First on Sun, 02/17/2013 - 21:41. Permalink

is Kantian dogma rooted in religious morality of sacrifice.
Ayn Rand debanked it 50 years ago.

There Is A Difference Between

Submitted by LibBerte on Sun, 02/17/2013 - 22:55. Permalink

There Is A Difference Between Com-passion And Altruism

http://hlamann.wordpress.com/2011/01/10/milan-kundera-and-co...

The Art of Selving Outside

http://jsse.revues.org/index123.html

So many good...

Submitted by Micah68 on Sun, 02/17/2013 - 21:01. Permalink

...thoughts and posts! Unfortunately, the 'honey-do' list is needing some attention this evening :) (guess I better go show love in action...lol). But I am still enjoying reading everything on my iPhone as I work. Thanks, everyone. :)