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What is Love?

It's been really interesting to see the responses to various threads here asking questions such as, 'What is God?', 'What is Liberty?', etc.

I think that all (most, many?) of us here would agree that an essential, if not the most essential factor in fostering a r3VOLution for Liberty, is that it be done with Love.

Given that, I'd really 'love' to hear responses to the following questions:

- What is Love? Where does it come from? Is it something transcendent or not?

- Do you agree that Love is the foundation of Liberty, or is it just a nice-to-have thing on the side?

- Will Liberty last in a society that does not have Love?

I think you probably know my views already from other threads (Christian, Platonic view on ideal Love existing and being essential); but I'm interested to hear the variety of views that are out there on 'what is Love?'.

Kind of fits in with us just having celebrated Valentine's Day, I guess. :)



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I agree....

That's Y I got a box 4 Valentines day.....

Because: Some animals are more equal than other animals. -Animal Farm-

What the? > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MTIwY3_-ks

I Have No Idea What the Hell LOVE is!

I Really don't. I thought I did but I was wrong big time! I think that the REAL meaning of LOVE is FAR deeper than the crap that we are taught. Like, caring for an elderly person we don't really WANT to take care of, or caring for a child with serious issues that is really hard to care for or living with someone with serious mental or physical disabilities that makes your life a living hell but you take care of and LOVE them anyway. There are MANY more IMPORTANT meanings of LOVE than the crap I have seen in modern society that require REAL giving in order to show love besides SAYING IT!

Definition of love (v)

bing.com · Bing Dictionary

love

[ luv ]

1.feel tender affection for somebody: to feel tender affection for somebody such as a close relative or friend, or for something such as a place, an ideal, or an animal
2.feel desire for somebody: to feel romantic and sexual desire and longing for somebody
3.like something very much: to like something, or like doing, something very much

Synonyms: affection, adoration, friendship, tenderness, feeling, fondness, devotion, passion, ardor, amity

skippy

it's THIS...

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

John 15:13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

Forgive me, but...

I would suggest that defining love, and pointing to the effect of love, are two different things. I personally fail to see how your two quotes in any way define love... Just saying...

And you say you have no idea what Love is

Liar :)

Not knowing it and not seeing it as often are two different things.

"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience; we are spiritual beings having a human experience"—Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

check out Glenn Allport's writings on Strike-The-Root

Here is a list of his writings:

http://www.strike-the-root.com/user/8

“The welfare of the people in particular has always been the alibi of tyrants.” — Albert Camus

Love

Love can exist only when the self is not. That is, when you are more important than anything else, love cannot be. We tend to use the word love for the things we like or the things we find pleasing or pleasurable, but these are the things of thought, they are the response of the brain to external sensation/stimuli. If one loves one more than another, is that love? Does love divide, separate? Is love measurable, as in 'I love her more than him'? When love is personalized it becomes narrow, for it becomes the idea of love which is a product of thought. Thought, which can only understand as for as it has experienced, has no access to a living thing like love. Love can be found when all that is not love is put aside completely. Thought cannot pursue love, but it can see the false in that which it has contact with, the ending of the false is the movement of the truth,and love is truth when it moves as 'What Is'

Enonesoch

Love/liberty is like an

Love/liberty is like an onion, we all have layers that help us interpret what we feel/see at the core, when we peel back the layers we find our cores are all one and the same, our bonds stronger for it, in recognizing that fact

Love blossoms from tolerance.

Love blossoms from tolerance.

Mr. President, it is natural to man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren till she transforms us into beasts.
-Patrick Henry

check out the look on your dogs face

when you open the door of your truck and say "c'mon"

"The two weakest arguments for any issue on the House floor are moral and constitutional"
Ron Paul

As I was

reading your comment I immediately thought you were going to say "open the lid of a pet food can" :D
But I know what you mean and it makes me smile.

Freedom is a byproduct of acceptance - judge not.

You hit the nail! This is the only true love I've ever known -

unfortunately :-)

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know Peace." - Jimi Hendrix

Love is unconditional.

It comes from the heart and it contains compassion, nurturing, and a deep caring. For me it is a very maternal feeling for all living things and all people, and that feeling makes me want to bring comfort and alleviate suffering, and to make others feel loved and protected, and at peace.

It is transcendental and of course survives this lifetime. We do not stop loving those that pass over. Love is our spiritual connection and that is eternal.

Love is the essence of the prime creator or God, and that is a caring, compassion, and empathy, beyond words. A sparrow does not fall from the nest without God seeing it and caring.

To Care is an action verb.

Talking about something does not mean you care about it. It means you like to indulge yourself in your own thoughts and opinions.

If you care about something you ACT. You take ACTION. Action means up off your bum and away from the keyboard.

Those who act, care about what they are doing.

Those who jawbone without action like indulging themselves which is not caring about anything or anyone other than yourself.

Great point...

"Dear children, let us not love with words or tongue but with actions and in truth." (1 John 3:18) So much easier to talk about love in the hypothetical than to actually live it out.

To love a plant is to give it

To love a plant is to give it water, pull back the curtains. To love my children is to feed them, read them a story, tuck them in bed. Although I do this often, I am insane to sit, reflect and ponder how much I love my children. Perhaps I am still a bit insane, but I am much more worthy to sit, reflect and ponder how much I have loved my children.

Love is

seeing oneself in all others and all others in oneself, and loving all others as you love yourself, realizing that we, along with every single thing in the universe, make up Creation, which is the total Oneness. To realize that we are tiny parts of the greater whole, and by truly loving all others and things as self, then we understand the great and total of love of Creator, which is all that love really is.

I feel the love in this room

I feel the love in this room

Love is the source of all creation

What I have learned in recent years is that there is an energetic "force" at the foundation of all sub atomic particles that some call the field, source, consciousness or even Love.

We as humans have the biological ability to feel this energy's motion through our emotions (e-motion = energy motion). The more one is tuned to this sensation of Love the more the world yields it to you. Call it Karma if you wish. We are like biological electromagnetic beings. Whatever our output, we will receive as input as a reflection of sorts to be able to correct our ways.

It was only in about 400 AD that the division between science and religion came to be. Before that, in cultures like that of the Egyptians, there was no separation. The study of spirituality was very much a part of "faith" and it was understood quite well. But these esoteric teachings were not for peasants and thus became the lure of secret societies to this day. Passed through old books kept in private libraries far from common eyes.

But those days are at an end. Now these ancient teachings are being confirmed with modern science, such as quantum physics, and a reunion of science and faith is among us.

So what's Love? Go look in the mirror and you'll see it looking right back at you.

"We are not human beings having a spiritual experience; we are spiritual beings having a human experience"—Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

Yeah

this is the closest answer to what I think that I have read so far.
Thank you !

Freedom is a byproduct of acceptance - judge not.

I've Read Years Ago...

"Universal Love, Universal Compassion, and Living in Truth."

http://www.dailypaul.com/270001#comment-2961923

"I bow my head to the beauty of music, the Blues carry my soul."
- JC444

"I, __________, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oath_of_enlistment

There is no duration defined in the Oath

Understanding your imperfections and treating you fellow man as

...such. To be human is to be beautifully flawed. Recognizing that we are not perfect and accepting that...is love. Forgiveness, acceptance, patience, understanding, to be willing to swallow your pride in order to facilitate a better outcome from a disagreement. Putting aside one's ego for the betterment of the relationship. IDK, just throwing out a couple things. I've been trying to figure it out for years. Acceptance w/o judgement combined with truth and understanding. That's all I got.

The Absence of HATE is Love

If you can correct one another with firmness, kindness and understanding without hating - Tha't Love..

Jesus didn't hate..He could call a spade a spade without the negative energy of HATE...

Love one another as I have loved you...

Speaking the truth isn't mean or hateful...It depends on weather you angry in a judgemental way (resntful is judgement)

The absence of HATE is Love..

The story of the "Good Samaritan"...was the outward manifestation of the inner love for his fellow man..

IMO

Spiritually it is the substance of life
Philosophically it is the idealization of self
Politically it is the conscionable element which says "thou shall not violate"

Keeping his commandments

By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments. 1 John 5:2 kjv

And this is love, that we walk after his commandments. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it. 2 John 1:6

I could go on and on here. Just search the 4 Johns.

Basically, love is keeping his commandments.

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Hear, O Israel: YHUH our God YHUH one. And thou shalt love YHUH thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.

Question:

Is "keeping his commandments" an effect of love, or is "keeping his commandments" the cause for love? It is my experience that most (unwittingly) ascribe to it as being the latter, when I would suggest it is the former.

This Guy Knows a Lot About Love & Happiness

Check this out...

http://youtu.be/G4HJgoKnjss

This guy knows a lot about love and happiness. If there's anything about liberty in here though, it's about giving your mate the freedom to be themselves, make their own decisions and not trying to restrict their behavior due to your own fears.

Love is understanding that

Love is understanding that the golden rule is the essential truth for interacting with others. It is being responsible for yourself so that you are not a burden to others but at the same time standing ready to lend a helping hand to those who have fallen on hard times.

Love is respecting the essential fact that you are part of a greater whole, yet that you are indispensable - that your life has meaning and that you have a right to live it free. It is about respecting the freedom of others while demanding your own.

Love is using all of your faculties to the greatest extent that you are able. It is about facing reality at all times, and living a life in search of truth. It is attempting to always act in ways that are in harmony with nature, using your resources to improve conditions, not wasting them on folly.

Most of all, love is about cooperation, because you know that it is through cooperation that love survives and prospers.

I must be willing to give up what I am in order to become what I will be. Albert Einstein

To use a metaphor of

To use a metaphor of sorts
"Im in love with liberty, my metaphysical lady liberty"

As with anything you love, you want to protect her, you wont stand for anyone slandering her.
You thank every moment, through good and the bad, that you found her, hope you help her shine as she makes you shine inside, and pray that nobody forces her from your soul.

Not ashamed to say it, i feel like im in love with liberty, and god bless her and to all your lady liberty's for bringing us alltogether, i hope we grow, i hope we shine, i pray no one forces us apart

Forgive a confused atheist, but, god bless you all, who have a lady liberty or perhaps, liberty knight, in their hearts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zlViU5PBPY

Love is a smile...love is happiness, love is peace, love is affection, love is simplicity, love is pure goodness...love is the closest thing to God any human will ever experience here on earth. Love leaves a lump in your throat, love makes one cry at the beauty of creation.

Love is happy, and funny.

Never be afraid to ask simple questions.