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Check out this commercial for a creepy new teddy bear, created by "christian" Pastor John Hagee, that indoctrinates fundamentalist christianity into your unsuspecting child...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYNACoftcPg&feature=player_em...

My question is, If christ/god of the bible was really real,then why the constant need to trick and scare people into believing?

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most people call it

parenting. By your argument we should not teach kids anything because kids are to young to think for themselves, heck they might not like it when they get older. I personally dont think its right to force kids to take baths or make them eat anything but ice cream, because if you make them take baths when they grow up they will resent it and never take baths, and if you feed them anything but ice cream they will grow up resent it and only eat ice cream. So parents please do not do what you feel is best for your kids because its bad bad. Sarcasm ended.

What if its true that God watches everybody 24/7 and that if you do not accept his gift of salvation you will receive the judgement he tried to pay for you on Calvary? If its true is it wrong to tell someone the truth?

God did command people to tell them about him, see the last chapter in mathew, mark, luke, and john. God uses the foolishness of preaching to show people Himself.

I know a lot of people who did not grow up in church who came to Christ as an adult, who do not want their kids to go through a lot of the things they had to, who do not want their kids to make the same mistakes they made. And the very reason why they send their kids to church is because they want their kids to be better than they were.

Personally I accepted Christ as my savior when I was five. That was my decision, whether you believe me or not no adult was there to tell me what to do when I accepted him as my savior. It was just me and God. I am very grateful for what my parents taught me, and in truth because of that teaching I am grateful for a lot of sins I missed.

You misinterpreted what he

You misinterpreted what he was saying.

He meant kids should only be taught things that we know to be true. Facts, theories, laws etc. Not that Santa is going to give him coal for Christmas because he's been bad.
Things like baths are good in relation to hygiene, so your point is immediately irrelevant. Force obviously should be no part of a child's life but that is why he is saying you should be teaching the child to critically think about EVERYTHING for themselves. They will eventually understand why a bath is a good thing. They will eventually understand why eating ice cream is a bad thing.

What if its true Allah instead of the Christian God is the one that watches you 24/7? You are indoctrinating your child into the wrong religion then, aren't you?

Kids should not be told that Christianity, Islam, Hinduism etc are 100% truth because kids will believe it. You tell a kid Santa is real and he'll give you coal for Christmas whilst the rest of the kids in your class get loads of free gifts, he's sure as hell going to be as nice as possible for you. Obviously this is a good outcome, but your lying to your children. Its like Obama saying "Vote for me and I'll bring our troops out of the Middle East as soon as I'm in office". He's lying to get us to do something for him. You are lying to your child to get him/her to do something for you.

But...

But theories are not known to be true, are they? And can't "facts," often be disputed, as well? And LAWS!? LOL!

Take for example the big bang theory, which is wrongly being taught as FACT in public schools. It's called a theory for a reason. Perhaps scientists THINK that's what happened, but it cannot be proven or reproduced.

the bath thing

is called sarcasm. I even said it was sarcasm and you still missed it.

Furthermore if any other religion is true I am okay. Every other religion on the planet is by good works. If allah is god, then I am good, if the jehovah witnesses are right, I am good, if the hindus are right I am good. but if the Bible is right and Jesus is the only way to heaven then they are all in trouble and need to be told the truth.

As a kid I did not believe in santa and did not know other kids believed santa was real until third grade. My parents did not believe in santa so they did not teach me he was real they did not think lying to their kids was cute. As a kid I believed and still do believe that Jesus is the Son of God, that Jesus is the only way to heaven, and my parents believed that too. So comparing Jesus to santa clause is a pretty bad argument since I do not believe in santa but I believe completely in Jesus.

Really by your argument we should not teach anybody science because their is science and then their is star wars because star wars exist no one should learn about science because they could confuse the two.

I got the sarcasm but you

I got the sarcasm but you used it to back up your main point, which you formed out of misrepresenting the OP's views. What is it with people who are being sarcastic seem to think they're the only one who gets it? Its like you use it just so you can go "HAHAHAHA I WAS BEING SARCASTIC YOU ARE SUCH A FOOL FOR DISAGREEING!!!"

The Santa example was just that; an example. You can even substitute the ethics of liberty in place of Santa, and it would still be a forced viewpoint on to the child. There is no critical thinking involved, they just accept it without question. Isn't this the same thing we were trying to show the GOP this has been their downfall? They foolishly believed what they were told without critically questioning their own viewpoints. Teaching a child Christianity, Islam etc are true without giving them the resources and time to critically question whether one is true or none of them are true is just like Fox News airhead calling Ron Paul an isolationist, and their viewers going "Yeah! What an idiot!" without actually questioning the statement. That airhead may believe wholeheartedly Paul is an isolationist, but they are ultimately wrong and their viewers who also take that stand are now also wrong.

Do you not see the problems in this?

Give the child the knowledge in how to think for themselves. And then let them.
I would have not reached this website had it not have been for my own critical thinking.

I like questions

I teach a sunday school class and I teach junior church and I love questions. The kids who dont ask questions dont care. I prefer kids asking questions.

your argument is pretty much you dont think any of it is true so no one should teach something that you do not think is true. Thats your opinion but dont try and act like you are encouraging freedom with it.

You are not understanding my

You are not understanding my argument if you think that is what I'm suggesting.

I'm arguing you should give children the resources to think critically for themselves, so they can examine and evaluate differing points of views on different subjects instead of telling them Jesus rose from the dead, or the left is wrong on everything, or Israel is the true enemy of the US and not Iran, or whatever you, I or anyone else may or may not believe. Tell them what you believe, why you believe it and then give them the knowledge and critical thinking skills so they can grow up and decide what is true and what is not for themselves.

I am an Atheist and I would most certainly teach my children the reasons why I do not believe in a God and why I believe others do, but I would give them the opportunity to evaluate the subject themselves.

I believe

that you personally have to accept Christ as your savior and that no one can make you do that. I believe that Jesus is the only way to heaven. So I try to teach young people to accept Christ as their savior.

Again, this is what I have a

Again, this is what I have a problem with. Do not teach them that he IS their saviour. Tell them why you believe he is their saviour, give them the resources for them to explore the subject in its entirety, and then give them the knowledge to examine your claim themselves.

Are you afraid that if you don't tell them that Jesus is unequivocally their saviour and of that there is no doubt, they might not believe you?

Religion is only objective to the insider and those who are not able enough to comprehend the subject (which includes the easily fooled as well as children). To the outsider, one need only look at the number of conflicting religions to see that it is subjective.

If it is subjective, then stating that your subjective belief is 100% correct and everyone else's has differing sizes of errors is conditioning. And depending on how you teach religion to your children, I believe it can be a very real form of child abuse.

But it's ok children to be brainwashed

by a godless society to believe in multiculturalism, evolution and many other destructive ideas and false theories. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. Perhaps parents should not be allowed to teach their children anything and just leave it up to the state who's teachings your brainwashed mind adheres too.

Get a life and get out of other peoples business.

The United States always has

The United States always has been, and always will be, a multicultural society.

Some would say

that by labeling multiculturalism, evolution and godlessness as destructive and false, you are brainwashing people. Hopefully you don't spout that garbage around your kids!

Getting out of other peoples' business is what atheism is all about for many people. It's about stopping the oppression that a blind faith in what you're told (which goes against ALL PHYSICAL SCIENCE KNOWN TO MAN) is right and that you should do tons of ritualistic things because a mythical man in the sky who loves you so much he killed his son, might get mad and put you in a fiery pit to burn for all eternity.

If you want to live under this charade, you go right ahead. Just don't vote, don't push your wild claims to history on others and don't brainwash your offspring. Some of us hope the world will start to change for the better one day and that simply can't happen with religious egos influencing power centers.

If atheism is getting out of

other peoples' business, then why does an atheist order other people to not vote, to not say anything about their beliefs, and to not teach their beliefs to their children?

It may be too much to handle but

those are the ways that religious views are PUSHED on others. If you wanted to live your way and NOT push your beliefs on me, my kids (via school or the media) or my politicians (litmus tests for them to do a non-religious job) then by all means, go ahead. Since it's become obvious that you can't just go your own way without feeling compelled to influence my world, I request that you stay out of my world. Simple.

When you learn to leave others alone, you can come back and play.

People like you are why the

People like you are why the rest of the society laugh at anyone associated with the right.

yawwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnn.....

yawwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnnnn..... someones butt hurtiness is showing...

Nope! LOL Funny how you are ok with brainwashing tho,

as long as YOU agree with it, Hippocrite

you are the hypocrite... and

you are the hypocrite... and looks like you are to full of yourself to realize it.

funny how all the christians are OK with brainwashing!

If there was an "Obama Bear" or "Environmentalist Bear" they'd be flipping out!

Brainwashed hippocrites.

There is you IDIOT.

It's called the public school system of which you are apparently a product of.

Hypocrite!!!!!!!

What if it were an atheist

What if it were an atheist bear denouncing all religions?

Southern Agrarian

I wouldn't buy it.

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That would be wrong too. I'm not atheist btw...

kids are too young to be taught this stuff. if they want to be christian when they are old enough to decide, that would be fine.

What is the

cut-off age for being taught Christianity is true? What is the cut-off age for being taught that secular humanism is true? What exactly is that age? And by what authority? Who decides what is fine for everyone else?

It is immoral to implant by

It is immoral to implant by law, morals and beliefs of a Democracy on the family unit or individual. What if I were in charge of the Democracy and chose to prevent you from imparting knowledge on your child until they turned 18? How old is 'old enough to decide'? What if you don't agree with my morals? These are dangerous ideas to have.

Southern Agrarian

Kids are too young to be taught to love?

I have withheld posting here because Christian bashing is beginning to hurt a little and I suppose that I am somewhat tired of it. I do not hate my Liberty Brothers and Sisters who believe differently from me, so why should hate be put on me and my way of raising the Children that God gave me?

I became new in Christ at age 7. I could not be more thankful that I belonged to Jesus all this time...I did not have children until I was nearly 40. I have sang them "Jesus Loves Me" almost all of the days of their 9 and 11 year old lives. They love one another, they love their "neighbors." They try to follow the golden rule and each one at his own time gave his heart to the Lord Jesus. They are not perfect, I am not perfect, but our Father in Heaven is Perfect and we are to try to be as He is.

A mind is a blank slate. Something will be written on it. I am thankful that the Word of God has been etched into mine and that it is being etched into theirs as well.

I am also a 5th and 6th grade Sunday School teacher. This is my 3rd year to teach. Right now I am teaching my students about prayer. Prayer is simply talking to God. Why would anyone not want children to learn to talk to God? God loves them. God created them. God cares about them, individually. What greater truth is there?

IMO, it is plain divisive, so that leads me to ask why? Why beat up on fellow Liberty Lovers? And especially why beat up on the message of love? I just listened to the video. The Teddy Bear is playing I Corinthians 13…love is patient, love is kind…

What is wrong with love?
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Love is Great! But "god" is not love. God is a concept

And everyone's idea of it is different but love came before humans created the idea of a "god" that watches us, punishes and loves us.

Believe what you want but you are not preparing kids for life if you teach them to believe in a man in the sky that watches them.

And any "talking to god" is imaginary and in your head. no offense.

Our brains are incredibly powerful.

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“There are those who hate

“There are those who hate Christianity and call their hatred an all-embracing love for all religions.”
― G.K. Chesterton

THE CLASS OF CITIZENS WHO PROVIDE AT ONCE THEIR OWN FOOD AND THEIR OWN RAIMENT, MAY BE VIEWED AS THE MOST TRULY INDEPENDENT AND HAPPY.
James Madison

God is NOT a concept at all unless you and I are concepts.

Genesis 1:1;26 KJV
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth...And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

God is a spirit:
John 4:24 KJV
God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

God is love!
1 John 4:8 KJV
He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

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You are using the Bible to prove that the Bible is true.

Do you see the flaw in that?