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Glenn Beck: I'm Done With the GOP Establishment, I Support Constitutionalists Like Rand Paul

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Care to explain why these two

Care to explain why these two charlatans are on the front page?

Pffft

Glenn is getting less & less relevant and like any advertisement once you stop watching it, it starts to try new tricks.

Pretty soon he will be looking for a new job...

Do not fall for this charlatan!

Do not fall for this Charlatans tricks! He is not a libertarian, he is a media whore looking for attention.

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A co-op attempt

He sure didn't support him when he was running, and he attracted him over his tweet. He such a fake and a liar.

http://youtu.be/tNdbRNgt8pk

Glenn Beck's thought process..

Haha, Glenn Beck... I finally watched the video of him criticizing Dr. Paul about the Chris Kyle tweet. Here are some quotes from Glenn Beck:

"I've been calling for the troops to come home, and the wars to end for six years." -GB

Meanwhile, GB endorses Rick "Bomb Iran, and be everywhere" Santorum

"Didn't support Ron Paul because of a future tweet"-GB

"Where liberty is, there is my country." -Benjamin Franklin

Don't be fooled by charleton

Don't be fooled by charleton glenn beck.

He is a traitor of the highest order because he is a paid neocon shill who has shown his stripes many times.

Go look at CNN, he acted like a totally different person.

They used Beck to coopt the liberty movement.

Glenn Beck is Going to Give Us a Bad Name

I don't welcome this traitor. Does anyone else?

jrd3820's picture

I do not welcome him, but....

He does not have the power to give ME a bad name only I can do that. Besides, it looks like he is supporting Rand Paul and Rand Paul hardly represents me.

If Glenn Beck is now "The Face" of Libertarians

If your average TV watcher latches on to Beck's new title of "Libertarian," all of us will get lumped in with him. I don't want anything to do with his name. And I don't want this guy to be able to HIJACK the term "Libertarian" for his own popularity.

jrd3820's picture

I get where you are going.

I understand the frustration.

However, at the end of the day none of these people matter and the terms they throw around so carelessly matter even less. All that matters is that you do you.

Spend your time living the principles you promote and leading by example and more people will take notice of that than they will of Beck.

I will not be lumped in with anyone that I do not want to be lumped in with, and the list of people I am OK with being lumped in with is extremely short.

Glenn Beck does not represent me nor will I let him. He can say whatever he wants in the name of being a libertarian, but I know better and I will combat him with my words and actions.

Used to watch Beck all the time on Fox

I don't trust Beck since he didn't support Ron Paul for President. Rick Santorum was his idea of a liberty candidate? Come on. Anyway I used to watch Beck all the time on Fox until the very end when I noticed he was changing. Maybe he was being pressured to tone it down I am not sure but he definitely changed near the end.

I think his show was SO successful because of libertarians and now many of use feel lied to so we aren't paying for THEBLAZE. I think this sudden anti gop shift from Glenn is likely due to poor ratings and he is trying to get his core audience back. Otherwise he is fighting for the same losers as Oreilly and Rush and Levin blah blah blah.

Just my guess, either way I will never buy another Beck product again and I won't pay for his internet tv service.

Interesting interview

It's what he DIDN'T say that got my attention.

No real mention of Iraq.
No mention of specific legislation like NDAA or others.
No mention of the Republican elite 'cheating' to scuttle Ron Paul 2012
No mention of the 47% comment.
No mention of the Neo-Cons.

Ol' Beck was really just payin' lip service to Rand, the Libertarian movement and the Tea Party movement.

I can't help but think the Libertarian 'fringe' he was talking about was us heh.

He at least could have mentioned that the Neo-Con beliefs and the average Republicans' beliefs are polar opposites, and that is why the party is dividing. So obvious, yet he can't bring himself to say it.

Hard for me to say this but......

I know a lot of people on here are not trusting Glenn Beck, myself included. But Glenn's language is FAR better in the point of view of Libertarians then it used to be and that should be noted. I can't believe I am going to say this, but I think we should cut Glenn some slack. Not saying trust him out right yet, but less bashing him every chance we get. He's come our way on some points, maybe he will come more our way if we are nicer to him. And lets face it, like it or not he has an audience. His audience are not made up of bad evil people. They just have been under the covers of the establishment and have false impressions of what is going on. Believe it or not, we have a greater chance of waking those folks up if Glenn starts coming more our way. Just my own opinion.

The Ambiguity of Life

I agree with you.

But that does not mean that I trust Beck. Of course I don't trust him. I would be a fool to trust him. Anybody who trusts him is a fool. The list is just too long. How he has treated, for example, Ron Paul or Debra Medina is enough for me to know that never trust the dude. Just a week ago how he was ripping RP for his Tweet was absolutely stupid.

But at the same time he has a lot of followers and even in DP there are people who found Liberty Movement through Beck or at least in some way their path to liberty was inspired by Beck. And as he also talks, or at least has talked, about Hayek, gives 25 minute interview to Judge Napolitano, praises Rand Paul, says he is all the time becoming more and more libertarian, etc. is great. When he says these things and other good things some people of his listeners will start their own research: maybe they google 'libertarianism', 'hayek', 'ron paul', or whatever. He has even said a lot of good things about Ron Paul, but then he has of course flip flopped them later, but even that might be a good thing; who knows. Maybe some people's eyes will open for Beck's lies when he flip flops.

It's better that Beck says and does some good things than if he did only bad things. For example, who knows how many people youtubed Judge after this 25 minute interview and found fantastic Freedom Watch clips from youtube. Be happy for all the good stuff Beck says and other than that just show the finger to him and even while showing the finger to him at least listen what he is saying, because that will tell us from which direction the winds/farts of his puppet-masters are blowing.

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I bet half of the readers on here at some poing supported the

War
voted Bush
and had many other neocon symptoms.

I know i did before being woken up by Dr. Paul and the liberty message the remnant bring.

We must be welcoming as Dr. Paul said in the farewell speech,

"To achieve liberty and peace, two powerful human emotions have to be overcome. Number one is “envy” which leads to hate and class warfare. Number two is “intolerance” which leads to bigoted and judgmental policies. These emotions must be replaced with a much better understanding of love, compassion, tolerance and free market economics. Freedom, when understood, brings people together. When tried, freedom is popular."

Heck even Tom Woods talks about being a neocon listen here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BN3EryUG0EA

The sour pusses who are judgmental and unwelcoming of people to this revolution do more harm than the one who says nothing.

"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" - Mark Twain

they have good reason to question people like

Beck. He was instrumental in the Tea Party co-opt as we all know. However I do agree with you. Many folks on here probably used to be neocons themselves. Myself, I actually was a socialist after college and between working in the real world and Dr Paul's teachings have made the conversion. So I think we should use Beck, not because we like him, but because it gives us a better chance to reach his audience. And it does appear that they do at least want to meet at the constitution. And that is good start. Things will not change over night.

I do believe it is a big step for him to say he is done with the GOP and to do so on FOX of all channels. This should count for something.

Again not saying we should trust him or let our guard down. But I think not calling him names and going out of our way to bomb his inbox at every turn is a step in the right direction to possibly getting him to come our way more. Besides, the negativity is unproductive.

Phxarcher87's picture

Yes

always question, but some of the critics on here seem to have hatred as their first line of defense. This is where i have to speak up.

"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" - Mark Twain

i do agree

the negativity is not productive. I understand where they come from as I am guilty of knee jerking some inflammatory words about people. But hopefully they will move past that as I have in recent times.

Phxarcher87's picture

Conalmc my name is Kirk nice to meet you;)

Love must be the foundation of this movement if we wish to see it spread faster than a snail.

"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" - Mark Twain

nice to meet you as well.

=)

Talk is cheap. There are a

Talk is cheap. There are a lot of cheapskates.

again

I am not saying trust him. I certainly don't and am keeping any eye out for any type of co-opt attempt. But I don't think bashing him at every turn is going to be productive. His audience just needs to be woken up. We need to co-opt him, not because we like him. But because his audience is made of good Americans that have just been blinded for to long. And we need them (not him), regardless if some of us want to admit it or not.

Phxarcher87's picture

So it is not

possible that he was blinded for so long like you and I. How can you throw a stone at someone when you were once on the other side? Should we reject you because you one were a socialist. Appears there is a double standard here.

"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" - Mark Twain

I think you need to re-read my comments.

I am one of the few speaking out in favor of cutting Glenn some slack. I have threw "stones" at Glenn in the past, but not in any recent posts. I have no problems admitting that. But I am one of the few on here saying we should stop bashing him to see if he comes our way more.

Yes I was socialist after college. Many if not most CS majors were when I graduated. But neither of us (before we saw the light) went out of our way to take over movements through manipulation, or propagate lies against people like Dr. Paul for our own benefit or for the benefit of establishment parties. Because of actions as such, there is good reason for people to not out right trust Glenn. We could have had far more success if people like Beck were playing a fair game. Not like we were asking him lay out the red carpet for Dr Paul. We just wanted people to give him a fair shake. We both know this to be true. So to say I am holding him to a double standard is inaccurate. I am holding him to realistic standards based on his actions. Step by step my friend.

Not sure what your goal is, I am one of the few that agrees with you. Instead of trying to point out a double standard with me, which there really is no grounds for, would be more productive trying to convince the ones on here completely turning away at any chance of using Glenn to reach his audience.

Glenn Beck, Tea Party Shepard, will flock his sheep into GOP

This is what Phil Donahue did to those "radical leftists" each and every time..... and this is what Glenn Beck will do too.

Glenn likes to pretend he doesn't know what it takes to "be" a libertarian. Israel and the War on Terror are his achilles heel, the dead give away, the reasoning that is so poor and un-Libertarian that "outs him" each and every time.

Even if you came down on the side of Israel right to defend itself, you do not, as a libertarian, allow Israel off the hook when it comes to war crimes, launching wars, 'preemptive' invasions, property theft of farms and land CLEARLY owned by Palestinians and being the biggest USA welfare/warfare aid recipient of all time. You just don't.

I often wonder for all the money the USA has sent to Israel for arms and aid if we had just instead paid each and every Palestinian to move to the USA, what would have happened. Or, not allow Jewish Americans to hold "dual citizenship" what would have happened. Or, not allowed Israel ANY foreign aid, military or otherwise. There must be a thousand ways that we Americans can STEP back and leave Israel on its own. It reminds me of the Ringer "Full Employment Theory: Take away welfare and people will find work, sure as hell."

We need a "Israeli/Palestinian Peace Plan Theory: Take away ALL foreign aid, and people will find peace, sure as hell."

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Use GB for all he's worth...

Use GB for all he's worth... (knowing he could turn at any moment). It will be an opportunity to teach evangelical fundamentalists how to speak to others without bible-thumping.

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STOP! He's worthless. Don't

STOP! He's worthless. Don't associate with people like that.

Never stop assosiating with people.

Ron Paul associates with everybody. If you stop associating with people how in the world there will ever be a chance that they will get some new and right ideas that might give them push towards good.
Judge Napolitano was just talking 25 minutes with Beck. He is associating with him.

US Government does not associate with Iran, North Korea, etc. Do you think that's a good thing?

"Air is the very substance of our freedom, the substance of superhuman joy....aerial joy is freedom."--Gaston Bachelard--

yuck

If that isn't a clear signal to distance yourself from Rand Paul, I don't know what is.