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How Many Black People Dig Ron Paul/Liberty? How Many African-Americans?

In preparation for taking out my digital video camera to collect interviews relative to this subject:

Are you black and into Ron Paul?
Are you African-American and into Ron Paul?

Orientals and/or Asian-Americans please wait your turn for this question - right now I want to focus on just this ONE area:

Are you black and into Ron Paul?
Are you African-American and into Ron Paul?



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LOL!!

You made me laugh out loud at work. I hope no one noticed.

I wonder what the Amish would think of

zero point energy. It's zero emissions wouldn't cause any harm to the enviornment but are they just opposed to using anything automatic in nature (or anything not made by hand)?

All of this Amish talk is making me thirsty for some raw milk.

Ron Paul for POTUS!
Judge Napa for VP/AG!

If you don't know your rights, you don't have any.

Actually

In order to overcome lighting issues in their expanding facilities, they are using zero point to some degree; they have found inventive ways to 'funnel' light [and I'm sure heat as a by product] from overhead fixtures to dimly lit areas.

They are opposed to anything that has to do with 'record keeping' and 'registration'. That is why they oppose having photos taken, or owning automobiles/trucks, etc. They will offer some form of payment to ride as passengers with someone who owns a vehicle.

What I find troubling is that they are now utilizing antiquated computers that serve as 'word processors' only. They completely oppose internet, video, etc. which is good, imo. But once you start going the technology route, it becomes more difficult to abandon it.

I often wonder what would happen if/when the fed attempts to take their guns away.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

kind of a weird question to

kind of a weird question to be asking haha...but there are a few guys in my college libertarians group that are African American

Chris, upvote for guts

Not everything controversial is raaaacist!! Again, substitute Native American for black, and you won't hear a peep from the PC police.

I'm really confused

To me, the Liberty Movement represents constitutional goverment that believe the role of government is to protect the individual's rights.

It has nothing to do with special rights or interests in groups defined by "God created", race, sex, age, ability or disability.

ALL are equal to the government, given the understanding that each INDIVIDUAL has conditions in their lives that are beyons anyone's abilty to change, even themselves (even transexuals are still transitional because we do not know much about their lives after the MSM headlines.. anyone have a dioc on that, I'd be facinated).

Wouldn't have mattered to me if chris has said Native American. Liberty doesn't care about skin color because ALL skin colors care about LIBERTY.

I think I got it. I'll make a TOP post to make my point.

While I respect what

you are saying and agree in one sense, I think that the issue is trying to increase the number of people who love liberty. Not everyone responds to the same stimuli, so when talking to people who never thought of liberty as we do, wouldn't it be better to know how to approach them? I live in the South, and while most whites might respond to the smaller gov issue, many blacks would think smaller gov would mean less protection for them. I have black friends and I've heard this before. I'm not trying to compartmentalize groups, rather find ways to get them interested in at least one issue we care about, then the learning begins. If I didn't care about them as people, I wouldn't even be talking to them.

I made a top post

I lived in the south. I'm a Ragin Cajun 86. Back then it was called USL, now it's called ULALa and we had a college within the university feature a black hero that represented that college, arts and acience, to promote the college and the appreciation of the rich and underappreciated gifts the the American Black people.

Louis Farrakhan has been speaking about Liberty far longer than Ron Paul rEVOLution. How hard is it to show up to a speach by Farrakhan, as he speaks frequently?

The problems are anti- Israel, yet, it appears many in the Liberty movement are anti-Israel. How do we connect anti-Israel with Ron and Rand Paul's message, "Israel is our friend?"

So, I made a top post if anyone want to disscuss this issue

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I'm really confused

To me, the Liberty Movement represents constitutional goverment that believe the role of government is to protect the individual's rights.

It has nothing to do with special rights or interests in groups defined by "God created", race, sex, age, ability or disability.

ALL are equal to the government, given the understanding that each INDIVIDUAL has conditions in their lives that are beyons anyone's abilty to change, even themselves (even transexuals are still transitional because we do not know much about their lives after the MSM headlines.. anyone have a dioc on that, I'd be facinated).

Wouldn't have mattered to me if chris has said Native American. Liberty doesn't care about skin color because ALL skin colors care about LIBERTY.

this seems to have become a powder keg--

I think that because of the slave issue here in the U.S. (and elsewhere) it is important to know what those people whose ancestors were once enslaved THINK.

If you want to leave color out, fine--

the Irish were the first American slaves, but too many of them died, and the 'owners' (*shudder*) lost too much profit--*shuddering again*--

so Africans were captured and 'tried' and found to be stronger--

could have been the heat; slaves were mostly needed in hot places; Irish aren't acclimatized to heat; Africans are. Simple really--

so--

ignoring their history isn't helping anyone.

And, yes, they have been exploited politically, which is one of the reasons that those who love liberty really like to reach out to African Americans.

Some of *us* want to see political (and economic) exploitation shut down--

so it's kind of a natural response to reach out to anyone who has a history of being exploited.

Doesn't make *us* racists--

I have some black blood (VERY little; at the most maybe 1/64th) myself; I don't qualify as African American, but my ancestors were--

I think this just shows that the OP cares.

I got hot under the collar (I admit) the other day when a 'friend' of mine (someone I do respect but with whom I differ politically) made a comment about African Americans supporting Obama, because *they* want a 'hand-out'--it took all my strength to control my anger--

I did; I did. One of the ways I kept my calm was by responding with, "I know quite a few African Americans who do NOT want hand-outs."

I HATE that assumption, because I do not believe it's true--

I think the welfare state was deliberately imposed to make people dependent; I know some 'white' people who got trapped in that, too; it doesn't matter what 'color' someone is; once you get trapped inside welfare for several generations, it's hard to break out of it--

a terrible thing to do to a 'people' who have already been displaced--

I'll calm down now--

it's hard to be awake; it's easier to dream--

Valid question... will make a great video I am sure

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Take it from MJ

... It doesn't matter if your black or white !

Life is a sexually transmitted disease with a 100% fatality rate.
Don't Give me Liberty, I'll get up and get it myself!

Not surprised you get downvoted

You have a valid question but you should never question "black" thinking or motives because it immediately makes you a racist.

Interesting question

Though individuals are indeed individuals, with their own thoughts and feelings and history, the majority of America has been in the group mentality for so long, with several cultures based on skin color and geographical location, that it is difficult to separate the individual out of the group-think. Many people are this way (having an opinion on a matter not because they have thought it out themselves, but because the "group" they belong to feels that way), and if we acknowledge it, maybe we can find ways to tackle it effectively so individuals become more aware of their individuality.

I have a Black, African-American friend who fully supports Obama because she believes him to be a good guy, who also said that she really liked Ron Paul, too, because he seemed like a good guy. Romney scared her to death, and she saw him as evil, but Ron Paul was a very different story. Like most people, she doesn't study politics much, so I doubt she knew much of their policies, but I feel that if her choice was between Obama and Ron Paul, she would have learned more about politics to figure out who would have been the better president. (Actually, scratch that. The media would have painted Ron Paul as evil beyond imagining if he was the nominee -_- That, and my friend was going through hell during the entire election process, so deeply studying the policies would have rightly been very low on the priority list.) I do not believe she would have voted based on skin color, but on whether someone was a "good man" or not.

Interestingly enough, that is very similar to how my white mother voted. She saw Obama as evil, and Romney as a good man. The politics didn't matter nearly as much as whether the president was "good and virtuous" or not. In this way, my mother and my friend are very much alike. They just looked at different evidence.

"Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice." -- Thomas Paine

Chris, I voted you UP

It is a valid question. I am NOT prejudice against race, nationality, or otherwise.

Most black people in my area and in the next state overwhelmingly voted obama [TWICE] because of skin color. When I ask about specific issues, the response that I get is I am white and do not understand. So much for understanding, when as long as obama is of the same race, it is ok to strip rights away, invade other cultures and murder innocent people.

Many [NOT most] blacks in this area are on govt. assistance. While many are perfectly content, some scream because there is no opportunity. The point that I try to get across is that this affects ALL of us, not just race or area. Then I am told again that I am not black so I will never understand.

I do not intend to begin making this a race issue. However, it MUST be recognized that groups of race, religion, etc. do exist and those are extremely difficult numbers to sway. We must look for commonality and do our best to educate about what Liberty, and liberty, truely mean. If I do not understand because I am not black or another color or religion, then perhaps somebody else can explain the truth of what is going on in our country. Because tptb and msm will NEVER promote the truth.

Thus this:

http://www.dailypaul.com/275483/tmot-hits-the-streets-in-you...

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

TMOT, Benjamin Carson

((((((((PAF)))))))

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1iiWJb53u-M

What is there to understand? The message of Liberty is resounding, and people everywhere are waking up. I don't know anyone in the rEVOLution or Liberty Movement who would put out a person of color.

Truth is in the Bible, the rest is the world as was, is and will be without end, forever and ever..

Now if this is some call out because you think there are hispanics, blacks and asians lurking DP, too afraid to post because of the rabid Rand Paul GOP GOP GOP repugnants on DP, then you only expose your difference with me is prejudice.

(( Granger ))

"Now if this is some call out because you think there are hispanics, blacks and asians lurking DP, too afraid to post because of the rabid Rand Paul GOP GOP GOP repugnants on DP, then you only expose your difference with me is prejudice."

You know full well that that is not my intent.

Did you wake up on the wrong side this morning, lol?

:-)

Edit: wow, you must have, since you voted me down :-(

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

(((((((((((((PAF)))))))))) It's a cold and beautiful day

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMUGJZrR9Jg

No downvote from me. I would rather you understand that while I'm getting email from CA GOP candidates in the GOP about reaching out to races.. Ron Paul made it really clear to me, LIBERTY is something ALL people can relate to, and no one fo color wants to be on the front line just because they are a person of color..

Lead by example.. take your gig a step up and do as much as TMOT and Dr. Carson.. To me, "reaching out" is racist because you admit YOU have a gap between yourself and peoples of color.

Let me tell you how you lose that.

Just be you.

Now, some folks have so many onion skins they don't know who the hell their you is, so lose the skins and just be you.

Tell you what.. let's go have chicken wings and I'll point to all the people of color so you have a way to find them?

((( Granger ))) It is freezing here.

There is reality. I have many friends of many, many backgrounds, some in our family. We have fun, we bicker, and do all the things that friends and family do.

People are set in their ways. This is true of republicans, democrats, pro-abortion and anti-abortion folks. It is true among others as well. So when I am told that I do not understand why he or she voted for obama because I am not black, then there is a major problem that still exists. The same holds true when I speak about opposing abortion. Some women tell me that I don't have a right to an opinion, that I will never understand why they are for it, because I am not a woman myself.

These are realities. I want and promote freedom, liberty, for every person on earth. But it is there choice to accept or reject it. There is nothing wrong with reaching out if for the right reason(s), as long as one doesn't overstay/overspeak their welcome :-)

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

Nothing wrong with reaching out, until you get bit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh78GzxWIck

See my top thread about Farrakhan?

((((Granger))))

I did see your thread, thanks.

Wow to that video. So they fix the snake up in order to train the kids at that age. Interesting :-)

I just hope those kids don't see one out in the wild and make a really bad mistake! Isn't that a lot like 'conditioning', like what obama is doing here, lol?

You are reading too much into my posts and forming wrong conclusions. Relax a little, ok?

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

I'm giving you an invitation

to go see Farrakhan, bring your Amash flyers and give me a report.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Xvn_Ku55cI

Invitation declined.

I know what the outcome would be. That is what I have been trying to say, and why I made that TMOT thread :-)

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

What would the outcome be?

I apprecite your TMOT threads even though I don't always agree with him :-)) (((((((PAF))))))))

I vote you down for your racist remark.

Calling someONE a name is not racist but your back handed remark that single out one race in a demeaning manner is. Yet your racism is acceptable in society because it is racist toward white people.

what back handed remark?

What race did I single out?

When I see people, I see people, and I think much of that has to do with growing up in the military, where there are many races, and many with rank, and I grew up with kids of all races in many places and it boled down to people being people..

I don't see where you get off saying my racism is acceptable.. no racism is acceptable, and as for being racist against white people.. the is the same old stuff that goes round and round and why we just avoid the whole race issue, because really, it's a have and hove not issue. There are plenty people of color, including white, who have, and have not. We all have cultures that may cross race or not. WE ALL DESERVE THE FREEDOM TO ENJOY OUR CULTURES IN PEACE.

Is the rEVOLution or a Liberty Movement a cult in the white race?

NO. It appeals to all people who have their own paths to step into the arena.. whi did better than anyone schooling Obama? Dr. Carson.

Why you got the downvote from me

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The rEVOLution/ Liberty Movement doesn't see race or color, not that it isn't a part of the individual's perspective and perception, but that the Bill of Rights defines no race, or sex, to have special rights. Special rights focuses on the individual's perspective and perception, but the only one who wins is the government and the institution they subsidize to "award".

We know that we do not grow a rEVOLution or Liberty Movement by focusing on a race.. we are not part of the "WE NEED MORE HISPANICS, WE NEED MORE BLACKS". We don't. We need more people who are waking up to tyranny and understand the solution is to restore the republic to constitutional government that protects our bill of rights, and respects other's (tolerates others).

Right now I'm being sent candidate campaign information for the CA GOP convention.. when I see, "We need more Hispanics in the GOP", I know this is not a liberty candidate. We need everyone to wake up and stop the tyranny.

peace be with you.

Question:

Who will reach out when you are not listened to?

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

I'm not the message

The message is LIBERTY. I think TMOT and Dr Carson have done a great job. People of color have lives and brains and communities filled with people they LOVE (and some not so much), just like you, but apart, some by design, some by choice.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgVOR28iG_o

im black

im black