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Israel Is The Victim Not The Villain? Rebuttal (A Sick Oped)

The first thing I would like you to do is to read this article : http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/53270

Then come back to this post and read what I point out.

****My response to the author****

In the email I said that I request he read ALL of my email.

The world press and the UN vilify Israel as an Apartheid State while all Israel is trying to do is save a tiny piece of Land for their homeland.

So it is OK that the Israeli government acts as evil as its enemies? In reality, the world press overwhelmingly turns a blind eye to Israels tyranical operations. The attitude of "because jews were persecuted, surely they will not persecute" or "because they were persecuted one cannot question what they do" is anti-Christ.

They have been living there for more than 3,000 years and the so-called Palestinians came from all over the Middle East, mostly in the last 100 years.

They? The arabs have been living there for over 3,000 years also. In fact, specifically under the Ottoman empire, Jews prospered in the land of Israel and lived together in peace.

This little piece of Land was deeded to the Jewish People by God Himself…

This “Deed” you mention, please provide the document. If you mean “promise”. This promise was contingent on the people following God. Failure to remain in adherence to the original contract made that contract null/void. How many times in the past did Israel lose this land and why? God restored them to the land, not man. In fact the Hisidik Jew does not recognize the current "state" of Israel as God Ordained.

Nobody has done more for the so-called-Palestinians than Israel yet Israel never gets any credit for her kindness and patience.

Please provide the exact “kindness and patience” that the Leadership of Israel has provided.

By the way I, use the term “so called Palestinians” based on the statement by one of Arafat’s people who said “There is no such thing as a Palestinian People,” and he should know.

I guess one person saying something is a fact? Really? In that case, I guess that the religous leaders of Israel really love non-jews:

spiritual leader Rabbi Ovadia Yosef came out against the Habayit Hayehudi party on Saturday claiming it was a party of "goys" that seeks to "abolish the Torah" http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4334459,00.html

What is a "GOY" dear sir?

How about this one: “Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world – only to serve the People of Israel,” he said in his weekly Saturday night sermon on the laws regarding the actions non-Jews are permitted to perform on Shabbat. http://www.newrepublic.com/blog/the-spine/78490/goyim-were-b...

I guess ALL Jews really do love non-jews, yes?

The world seems to think that wiping out the Jewish race will be the answer to all their ills, but the very opposite is the truth.

No, the world does not think that at all. I know of NO ONE in my sphere of influence that holds to this view. NO ONE, yet you claim to have heard the "World" speak your "fact".

God has said I will bless those who bless Israel and curse him that curses her.

Yes, God sure did. Genesis 12. It was a good covenant also. And how many times did God take it away? And for what reasons? Did God restore Israel in 1948 or man? Additionally, regardless of what you think, the old covenant is complete and the New Covenant is in force. Blessings and Curses now come from the new covenant, not the old. Please provide the new covenenant verse, I would appreciate your help.

He has also said that He will judge those Nations who divide His Land, Israel. The United States under Hussein Obama has cursed Israel and divided the Land. Obama is the judgment of God on the United States. Impeach him or live with the consequences.

Israel does NOTHING that it sees not fit for Israel. And under President Barry Sotoro I recall NO LAND Division. Impeach Sotoro for that? No, there are other things that are more impeachable.

As in the Book of Esther, the Jews will win in the end because they are God’s Chosen People and God will bless them into Eternity.

No sir, the “Jews” do not win in the end GOD wins in the end. And why exactly were the “Jews” chosen by God? You elude to the fact that it is because they were a good people and will always be good. In fact, they were/are equally corrupt as those around them. Their failure to accept the Messiah does not bring a wonderful blessing through eternity it brings a curse. Their failure to receive Jesus bring the eternal curse of separation from God. A Jew following the Torah or Talmud is cursed and nothing can redeem them save Jesus the son of God. Christianities acceptance of the “at all cost” doctrine of Israel, ally themselves with a completed covenant that denies the “New Covenant” and is anti-Christ.

Just as God vindicated His People in the day of Esther, so He will today. It is for us to be sure we are on the side of God. He is in control in these last days and He will show His Almighty Power.

This is the typical drivel spewed from the mouths of ignorant anti-Christian preachers. Indeed, God did vindicate his people under Esther. Indeed he is in control in these “last days”. Indeed he will “show his almighty power” in these days. But for us to be on the side of God, we sure need to know which side? Demonically influenced pastors and priest fail to realize the “end times” and what happens. There is nothing you can do about what is to happen accept to “oppose” God and delay the inevitability of Armageddon. Yes, I said OPPOSE God. This incessant “at all cost” defend Israel is a ANTI-CHRIST agenda. Doesn’t the word of God inform you that “ALL Nations oppose Israel” during the end times? Doesn’t that force the real “Jews” to cry out to God and plead for His help? Does God answer them in the end -after all nations turn their backs on the real Jews? What do you fear more? Do you fear Israel will be destroyed by Muslims or do you fear that Jesus will return and how you currently live will be over? I submit that you actually fear Jesus return because Israel will NOT be destroyed by the Muslims or any other nation for that matter.

No, you fear Jesus return as do almost ALL of Christendom. If you did not, you would be hailing a non-interventionist attitude towards Israel as this would hasten the second coming. Instead, you demand that America and the world DEFEND Israel at all cost. That all nations should war against all of Israelis’ enemies and that we should sell arms, sacrifice our children and our future regardless of what the real “Jews” that live in Israel want. Yes, you want America and all the other nations to defend Israel... to be its MESSIAH bringing safety and salvation. This policy is pure, unadulterated and blatantly Anti-Christ.

Let’s not be naïve here, the people of Israel want peace. They do not agree with the actions of their “Synagogue of Satan” rulers. Why don’t you read Revelation 2:9 and 3:9. Ask yourself who this is and what is their origin. Who are these that “Claim to be Jews, but are not”? Might they be those in the leadership of the government of Israel? The typical “Jew” is opposed to what its own government policies are, but you and the world media don’t want that news to get out, do you? And it is the same way here in our country, most of us are disgusted with Americas policies at home and abroad.

As a final footnote I provide no evidence to my view just like ZERO evidence was provided in this OPED piece. The next time a author decides to “spew inaccurate vomit” to the masses, lets consider providing reputable facts and links to support ones view.

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/53270




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This video by Anthony Lawson,

a former jigle writter who saw all the coruption in his line of work, and decided upon retirement to due further investigations and expose this unethical corruption. No, Israel, the victimization is of your own mystical creations. Apparently, they are following the books of the Talmud, instead of the Torah, as they would read in Job 4:8 - Even as I have seen, they that plow iniquity, and sow wickedness, reap the same. http://youtu.be/eptPeSmA37U

An interesting video.

An interesting video even if I do not agree with some of it.

Jews

Are not the Israelites of the Bible. Archaeological and historical evidence, from Assyrian phonetician scripts, will tell you who really is.

Who is Edom Esau
The 13th tribe

Luke 3:38
Isaiah 43:3-5

Carter say's what's happening in Israel is worst than Rwanda?

He had no idea what was going on in Rwanda http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwandan_Genocide

What Carter is not saying, and is true, is that the problem Israel has, are so many Jews want to move to Israel, and these occupations are really like feeding guppies to pirana. Those moving to Israel have no idea when they go that they will be taught how to use a gun and live in a form of encampment, depending on how much money they came with to live behind walls, or gates, or "occupied" areas, that have neither, but many times, built on bad agreements or understandings.

Israel is and has been a rotten neighbor.

The Stern gangs terrorized natives in Palestine since 1920s.

In 1947, the gangs and newly subsidized drove the Palestinians out of Israel proper with murder, rape, theft and terror. Israeli Historian Benny Morris used used government records to tell this story.

Israel has proven to be a rotten neighbor, time and time again. Just another Marxist stronghold.

Free includes debt-free!

Sounds like a bunch of lame

Sounds like a bunch of lame excuses to torcher and murder people. Not really worthy entertaining a response to them if you ask me.

Well done.

I am struck by the irony of accusations of "racism" against anyone who questions a murderous political agenda being justified because they are "God' chosen people."
I cannot think of a more racist comment to make.

This is the article that got my posting privileges revoked:
http://bklim.newsvine.com/_news/2013/05/12/18212165-dr-stan-...

Thank you

Ignorant of me to actually never have thought of that in that way. How true your statement is.

The myth of the Jewish

Yes indeed

I heard about this but never looked for it... Published by Israeli Phd's in Israel.

Basically shows that most that claim to have the ancestry of Abraham do not. Putting it in simple english.

They CLAIM to be Jews, but are NOT Jews
Rev 2:9 and Rev 3:9

Wonder how the "christian" Pastors handle that one?

or is this a different study.. if so I need to find that other study.

exactly..... this is what

exactly..... this is what made me research zionism. As a Christian we were told that the Jews were Gods chosen people. I agree with that, BUT, those claiming to be Jews do not have a drop of Hebrew blood in their veins.

Indeed

Brian,

Revelation 2:9 and 3:9 are the words of Jesus. This is in a future tense and not the time of the writing.

It is clear that Jesus appears to be speaking along the lines of what you researched.

here is what I was talking about.

I have a INTERESTING Question..

Is America a State? Is England a State? or Germany, Libya, Syria, Russia... or you pick one?

How is it that Israel is a "STATE" and not a Nation or Country?

I do not know the answer, so I ask.

Did Anyone Notice

That the author is living in Costa Rica? That's where a lot of people are fleeing to in order to avoid the tyranny that's on the horizon. What a hypocrite! Typical

skippy

interesting

and funny in a way...

Deceived in his religion and deceived that he is safe in CR.

The standard method of operation is

to blame the victim. This tactic had worked well for a long time. While they beat the victim they cry out in pain as if they, the agressors were being harmed, while in fact they damage their victims. This confuses the victim as well as any onlookers, and always their media can propagandize the lies.

sovereign

Or, claim to be the victim

as has been the standard montra since WW II.

Ha... I just saw this

The world press and the UN vilify Israel as an Apartheid State while all Israel is trying to do is save a tiny piece of Land for their homeland.

So... the author is justifying and concurs that Israel is a "Aparthied State".

They are trying to save a tiny pece of land for thier homeland, therefore it is OK to be Apartheid.

Apartheid is a rascist form of governing.

well said

Well argued and well written, and I do think you honor your God by pointing out truth, in as much as most Christians today are christian-zionists, whatever that is supposed to mean. Just because are supposed to be the 'chosen', I don't think God supports racism, murder, theft, and continual war. Good post.

krp

thanks, but as I have said before, please do not confuse my DP name for anything other than what it is. I constantly get attacked from all sides over it. Maybe I should change it and maybe not.

Please be advised that although I consider myself a Christian, I would say that I am the poorest example.

My Name is derived from the Greek translation of my actual english name" Timothy in greek it means Honoring God, ergo honorgod. Sure, I could change my DP to Timothy, but that would be boring.

Thank you for your kind comment. o7 <--(army salute)

OK, so maybe

Timothy is boring, lol But truth always honors God, whether you meant to or not.