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Louis Farrakhan: The Liberty Movement's Missing Speaker?

Louis Farrakhan endorsed Ron Paul

http://youtu.be/X5QAbVcFojE

Farrakhan is a speaker of Liberty, and he's got much more to say than Alex Jones IMO. http://www.youtube.com/wa...

I'd like to invite a Louis Farrakhan thread and how we can achieve Liberty together.

http://youtu.be/GSazUpgBuuQ

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He is persuasive....

for a "long time racist."

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is argument of tyrants. It is the creed of slaves." William Pitt in the House of Commons November 18, 1783
"I know major allies who fund them" Gen. Dempsey

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I think he is a pawn....in the Hegelian Dialectic of

"Divide and Conquer."

The Illuminati will use whatever means of deception to make appearances of "liberty".

But I understand and agree with the general direction of his speech here.

However...beware the tares among the wheat. They are legion.

You always have to look beneath the surface.

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

TY ((((((Chris)))))))

And that's all I'm doing is looking.. which really seems to have upset a few posters. Anyways, besides government, it would seems the liberty movement comes closer to any movements, including 911 or occupy, to being able to form a treaty for national liberty for ALL.

What are you talking about?

"to being able to form a treaty for national liberty for ALL."

What treaty? We need a treaty for national liberty? I thought that was called the Constitution.

Nation of Islam

To me, the name, Nation of Islam, would appear that they would be seeking a treaty, not another unconstitutional right under a constitution that never worked for them.

For example, The Catholic Church is universal, it's not the only gloabl Church, so is the Nation of Islam, (many more)they are global.

As a Catholic, and I suggest this could be true for other religions, our history tells us that governments come and go. Where I live are families that lived here when it was Mexico. Governments come and go. So whatever government is occuping the land and making laws, a religious nation would want treaties to thrive where the occupation is. That is my guess.

That's why I suggest treaties, because some believers always put GOD first and never the governement, and why they feel so oppressed under a government that denies God exists except with their dealings with the federal reserve bank notes, "in God we trust".

Why doesnt the constitution work for the NOI?

What do they want in their treaty? How does a government deny that God exists? This group started in the 30's by a white man and then one of his converts claimed to be God. Are you saying any group can start, claim they are God and therefore should get a treaty with the United States?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Nation_of_Islam
"The original Nation of Islam was founded in Detroit in the United States of America in 1930s by Wallace Fard Muhammad. Wallace Fard Muhammad (1877, 1891 or 1893- 1934?), is believed by the NOI to be “the long-awaited Messiah of the Christians and the Mahdi of the Muslims”. [1]

One of Fard's first disciples was Elijah Poole, whose name Fard later changed to Elijah Muhammad (1897–1975). Elijah Muhammad deified Fard by preaching that he was literally God in person."

Because TPTB made segration laws

Same reason it is not working for the Catholic Church. Catholic Church has hospitals, and those hospitals REFISE to prescribe birth control or abortion. The government has said that Catholic hospitals MUST prescribe birth control and provide abortions.. so the Catholics are closing their hospitals.

Nation of Islam is connecting to Muslim faith, which is universal.. Detroit opened a chapter.. a cult. It has thousands of people who also want liberty. And from what I've heard, they would LOVE to see the constitution restored FOR ALL MEN, not just whitesm as they feel happened.

Thank you for the informative post.

Granger, the problem is not the Constitution it is the

Unconstitutional exercise of government. If the criminals in the government will not follow the constitution, do you think the will follow a treaty?

The unconstitutional exercise of government has no right to tell Catholic hospital anything. My favorit hospitals are Catholic. They are different. They are not sterile and cold. They are warm and there is a spirit of care about.

We have a rogue government and that is why Ron Paul and the goal of the Daily Paul is to RESTORE CONSTITUTIONAL GOVERNMENT.

Not government by will, but government by law.

We have people in government exercising their wills and making laws that make their illegal activities legal.

There are many factions in the muslim faith. I suppose like Christianity. That is why Malcolm X was killed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Nation_of_Islam :

"Eventually, Malcolm X took the name El-Hajj Malik el-Shabazz after rejecting the Nation’s beliefs and accepting traditional Islam."

It is also interesting that their original "white" leader went missing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallace_Fard_Muhammad :

"Wallace Fard Muhammad (born 26 February 1877) was the founder of the Nation of Islam. He made himself known in Detroit in July 1930. He taught Islam among the city's black population. He disappeared in 1934. Most researchers identify Fard as Wallace Dodd Ford, a former restaurateur and Moorish Science Temple leader. The Nation of Islam has rejected this claim and considers him "Master Fard Muhammad," the manifestation of Allah."

I think if the US government starts making "treaties" with American groups, we will be devided even more. There should be no rules better or worse for anyone and when the Government lives within and upholds the Constitution it will be so. The problem is that there are many criminals in government offices and their thoughts are not for the people but for control of the people for their own evil purposes.

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I agree bear

it's not the constitution bu the unconstitutional preciedents that begat more precidents rendering us to the likes of the Nation of Islam.. all these tribes with no treaties in the USA.

But the government is telling Catholic hospitals.. and that's one reason I'm motivated to be involved.. I hear the voices and see the wrongs, so I'm stepping up to restore the republic.. and my Church supports me, in my support if it's right to operate without unconstitutional government control.

Ron paul and the DP talk about we. We learn and discuss ehre.. we debate and vote at conventions and I'm proud to be standing for this community and my own.

No matter how one looks at it, the Nation of Islam is a hard story to tell, very sad, from outseod and self inflicted. Still, there are many people, who if we met them on the street, we may not know them as a member, and if we found out that they were, would we not invite them in? Everyone is an individual.. so I say yes.

No one has to agree with RP or LF 100% to appreciate liberty 100%.

"Everyone is an individual.. so I say yes."

Yes, I can go with the individualism. One changed mind at a time. I am open to being friendly with anyone and discussing Liberty.

What I am not so open to is to suppose that Farrakhan speaks that message. I hear Glenn Beck is trying speak the message of Liberty.

Time will tell.

In his own way

LF is speaking a message of liberty to a large group of people who identify with him. I would have never heard a messageof liberty if not for Ron Paul, and that is true for most folks here. But the lines will meet and possibly cross one day, and for this thread, I am better educated and more open, to listening and sharing the message of liberty.

Now I will consider, maybe the person heard the message, but is far more angry and apathetic than anyone here dares imagine even in our darkest hours.

Christ is the light, the way and the truth. Everything else is THE WORLD, as it was, is, and will be forever and ever. ((((bear))))

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(((((((GRANGER)))))))))))

I will defend you with my life if necessary. God bless you!

~Chris
Norfolk, VA

Time to INVESTIGATE the investigators of 9/11. PROSECUTE the prosecutors. EXPOSE the cover-up.

God Bless You

And may your life be protected by God and happy and healthy and long.

Thank you for being you (((((((((((((sharkhearted)))))))))))))!

Plus vote for getting down-votes...

from simply posting some good videos.

It was probably the pandas

Really?

How about that 2nd Amendment?

Obviously Farrakhan is

Obviously Farrakhan is entitled to his many opinions. Doesn't mean critical thinking goes out the window, as Granger seems to prefer.

I like him

I think he's an important voice and should have his say. I strongly disagree with him on most stuff though. I'm not sure how islam and liberty would work together exactly but at least The Granger wouldn't be able to start threads without permission from a man in the future. Or vote.

lol

p.s. I'm really hoping the granger is bringing points like this up with the rnc etc. hopefully youtubing them too. I could do with the laughs.

While dragging Dr. Paul's Name thru the Mud?

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I would rather have David Duke

as a speaker for the Liberty Movement, Farrakhan is not for Liberty. I will agree he does speak the truth on some subjects, the Fed, Zionism, and the such, but he is a Black Nationalist. I'm not saying I want David Duke as the speaker, but at least he speaks truth to Liberty, and really doesn't play the race game like he once was affiliated with. He only points out the facts about how the White Europeans created much of the prosperity in the world most every race has benefited in some way or another, and how the Zionist Rothschild Cartel is using different race factions to eliminate the white population. Being he was made the poster child for racism by the Zionist controlled media when he gained traction as a Congressman, he can never be a leader. Most have seen how Pat Buchanan pointed out much of the same facts in his last book, that got him fired at MSNBC, even though he used a more PC method. The major difference between Duke and Farrakhan is, that Duke is a Christian who want people to wake up to the Zionist matrix they have been manipulated by and use non-violent resistence and justice to solve the dillema, Farrakhan on the other hand, not because he' Muslim, would condone a violent overthrow of all white people if the blacks had the numbers. In reality, Farrakhan is either controlled opposition or a foolish victim of the same people he claims to be against.

I'd rather see neither.

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Likewise.

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Agreed

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Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That'll teach you to keep your mouth shut. Hemingway

Absolutely right. Farrakhan

Absolutely right. Farrakhan is a major part of "Black Liberation Theology", a creed all about violence, hate, and theft.

Farrakhan has some communist

Farrakhan has some communist leanings. He is also financially backed by foreign nations.

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I can't believe I watched the whole thing! But I must say...

...there is no denying, Louis Farrakhan is a man of truth.

When he started talking about the Federal Reserve and the devaluation of the dollar he said "Don't go to sleep now - you've been sleeping for 400 years!"

Cracked me up.

This man is utterly amazing in his depth and scope of knowledge.

Yes, he IS one of liberty's missing speakers.

Whether you agree with his religious ideals or not, this man tells the truth.

"We have allowed our nation to be over-taxed, over-regulated, and overrun by bureaucrats. The founders would be ashamed of us for what we are putting up with."
-Ron Paul

Really?

Your quote:

"This man is utterly amazing in his depth and scope of knowledge.

Yes, he IS one of liberty's missing speakers."

Really?

Perhaps your should view and digest the following, then come back and tell me how utterly amazing his depth and scope of knowledge is, k?

Hell, the collectivist-trash can't even read Amendment II correctly, let alone his either stupidity or his being duplicitous related to our founding and related issues.

Yeah...his depth and scope of knowledge is utterly amazing all right.

http://www.firstpost.com/topic/organization/federal-reserve-...

I hope that you will spend time reading the thread because

there are many issues with Farrakhan regardless of religion. There are many links in this thread that show the following:

1) Does not uphold the constitution. Specifically regarding the 2nd Amendment and Trial by Jury.
2) Blames wives for husbands rape of daughters
3) Speaks with a forked tongue regarding Ron Paul closing bases, but not going far enough to bring troupes home.
4) His handlers say that God speaks when he speaks and then he proceeds to twist Scripture as well as truth

I have sent a few hours this weekend working on where Farrakhan stands and I am by no means an expert, but as far as far as I can tell he does not speak the message of Liberty.

I agree

I've made several comments here about being discerning. I don't think I'll make any more comments, because the bottom line for me is, does he or does he not believe, live, and educate others on the non-aggression principle? No, he does not, and he never has.

Instead of wasting precious time trying to find "leaders" who seem to sound like Ron Paul in some ways, or who seem to support the liberty movement, why not spend time reading Rothbard, Bastiat, and other similar authors and then educate others, even if it is only one at a time. The best way to spot a counterfeit is to study the real thing.

The problem with politics is that everyone is looking for "leaders" of a movement. That is what got us into this mess in the first place - the people clamoring for a king and the mass following of that king.

The problem with most charismatic leaders that draw large crowds is that they quickly become infiltrated, and/or, they want to draw larger crowds so they water-down or twist the message for broad appeal.

Another problem with a charismatic leader and mass movements is the use of emotions above logic and education to get people to support them.

Maybe I'm old-fashioned or out of touch, but imo, educating people one at a time (using logic and reason) on the non-aggression principle is the best way to spread liberty, not look for people who can mesmerize a crowd. Ron Paul does draw large crowds, but it is not because he is charismatic, it's the MESSAGE. And he not only speaks it, but he lives it and does not waver.

“The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion.”
― Albert Camus

Very well said! One at a time!

http://www.dailypaul.com/comment/2970831

"Perhaps the new blood will come one at a time."

Submitted by bear on Sat, 02/23/2013 - 21:25. Permalink

Way too long

have I listened to FaraCon to look at or up to him in Liberty. Just do a simple search for Farakan + gun control and you see he is an ardent supporter for taking away all the guns and letting government have them all.

Ah heck, here I did it for you.

http://privatelee.qrobe.it/search/?q=farakan+gun+control&s=sbv2