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Glenn Beck apologizes to libertarians, begs them to welcome new people into the movement

Glenn Beck is upset about how he's received by libertarians. He says we're unwelcoming to newcomers and compares some libertarians to Nazi's. He even goes as far to apologize to libertarians for not knowing about liberty sooner... he's begging us to be nice and teach him and everyone else about liberty.

"Libertarians, I'm begging you... please... see the opportunity you have with 30-60% of the nation... people will come your way."

http://www.video.theblaze.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=256...

Glenn Beck famously once called Ron Paul supporters terrorists. In spite of that, he makes some good points about how we treat new people like him, who used to not agree with or even be downright mean to us. I was one of them. This is worth listening to.



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It would have been fine if he

It would have been fine if he left it at, I'm sorry for being wrong. But you need to read up on passive aggressiveness. By saying "I'm not as smart as you," it automatically makes him the victim and implies we think he's less intelligent.

Oh Ok

Shrinks need shrinks.

I couldn't make it past 3 minutes

He is such a two face, lying bag of dog poo! He gets why we hate him, he just wants to be the victim and demonize us.

Beck doesn't get the folks

Beck doesn't get the folks who came to the liberty movement through Ron Paul.

He doesn't get that many of us first heard through a guy who isn't that great of a speaker. Who never gained acceptance in some Big Club. Who said what he meant despite -- DESPITE -- the fingers in the wind pointing elsewhere.

Who didn't seek acceptance as some kind of litmus test.

This may be the ultimate anathema for the Becks of the world. It's like speaking Hindi to an Irishman.

Beck thinks the liberty movement is some cult of personality or some cult of group think. He's bound up in thinking in terms of following the cool guy or the cool crowd. He's obviously never been a part of the discussion. He doesn't know that we disagree about abortion, the death penalty, education issues, definitions of marriage...the list goes on. He's obviously never engaged. It may well be that the Becks of the world are handicapped by their obsession with people rather than ideas. People will always disappoint. And always give you an excuse to languish and lick both real and conjured wounds.

My response

to you Glenn, is the same as it was to Mitt, GOP leadership, and the establishment.
Here's a big F U to all of ya's.

He has a point

I'm not going to pretend to know Beck's true feelings or motivations. He can say all the right words, but his future actions will determine if he is sincere. However, the large majority of us here were not always libertarians. A lot of people use their membership in the movement as an ego boost and end up hurting the liberty movement. We saw this last year with the elitism of some of the people who had supported Ron Paul in 2007/2008 and looked down on those of us that were newer members of the movement. The bottom line is that for our movement to grow we can’t shut people out just because of their past actions. In 2008 I was fresh out of high school after 12 years of statist brainwashing and was a rabid neocon, but slowly over 3 years (with the help of my libertarian best friend) I opened up to the message of liberty. If my friend had just said to me “you can’t be in our movement because you still believe X Y and Z and you supported and voted for McCain in 2008” then I wouldn’t be here. I saw the same problem at my state's convention last June. A lot of people who agreed with 70% of our principles that we could’ve used to block Romney from getting delegates were unwilling to listen to us because of a few of our members that chose to get into emotionally heated arguments.

I’m not defending Glenn Beck, in the past he has said horrible things about Ron Paul and the movement. However, we need to realize that many of us would’ve said those same things years ago before we were awakened. Instead of trashing Beck and the other “70%ers” that we agree with most issues on, we should concentrate on spreading the message of liberty to these people. We have plenty of time between now and 2016 to observe Glenn Becks actions to see if he truly means what he says.

Glenn Beck is shutting us

Glenn Beck is shutting us out. It's not a mistake or coincidence that Beck is talking about Libertarians, his haters, and Ron Paul in the same thought. It was part of his script, he planned to talk about these things. He's calling you Ron Paul supporter closed minded and, what did he say, "fascist". Like another poster here said, Glenn Beck is trying to play the victim, while demonizing you ROn Paul supporter.

You really want us to believe you are sorry Glenn?

Prove it.

Help purge the Neo-Con influence from the Republican party.

That is: Paul Wolfowitz, Bill Kagan, Anne Coulter, Eric Cantor, Joe Lieberman, John Bolton, Lindsay Graham, Bill Kristol, Charles Krauthammer.

There is no Neo-Con voter base. Turf the lot of them.

Neo-Cons want wars, deficits and deficit spending. They don't support 2nd amendment rights.

What Conservative would possibly want any of those things? Seriously.

I think we need to be rather blunt here ...

Glenn ... Mr. Beck

I do not trust you.Let me rephrase that I can not trust you EVER
In short FUC U Glenn

Thank You

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Ok Glenn...

So your not a neocon and definatley not a libertarian, your a neocontarian.

Glenn Beck reaches out.

I used to love Glenn Beck...then I didnt and I stopped listening to him when he endorsed santorum. I think he did that. I think he deserves the benefit of the doubt. He did, after all, say he was a slow learner...that could be true. YOu know it was very very difficult for me to accept that I was so wrong for so many years...AND if you are older when you start waking up...it's even MORE difficult because you've been brainwashed longer. I think Beck deserves a chance....he seems to want to belong to the libertarians. We need more people...even if they aren't 100%...i don't think I am 100% myself. I still go round and round with some libertarians who think atheism is a prerequesite to being a libertarian.

RON PAUL 2008 Jazzloversinc

You shouldn't waste your time

You shouldn't waste your time with people who think being an atheist is a prerequisite for being a libertarian. Just tell them "you're not libertarian" and let them learn on their own what it means to respect personal choice. Anything more is a waste of breath and time.

just watched the full video, near finish now

his emotion is real, "we were the only guys there to cover rand paul. was cnn there? was fox there? nobody was there. yet what did you guys do? piss all over us" he was referring to rand paul finding half a million in his senatorial budget and no msm covered it

if he was faking then he must win oscar, cus i grew up in single family house and i know how to read emotions and people thank you. he wants in, he feels hurt by people's snobbish attitude and you can tell he's the 'i want to accomplish things kind of guy' because he mentions 18month time line before another election cycle kicks in and gop starting their full on narrative offense again, saying we only have 18 month right now to destroy both parties and help rand paul. all of this is real judging by his emotions, twist what you want, but there it is.

you always wanted an emotional kind of guy that can iterate libertarian message without appearing inhumane and wanting to push grandma over a cliff, right? well, if glenn beck's in, there you have it. he is probably the most eloquent of all libertarian speakers in speaking to average joe or emotional soccer mom aka the mass, and yes if he is fully converted less gay marriage and abortion issue, he already is on drug wars reform, he is a libertarian.

Last I checked there's no

Last I checked there's no gatekeeper to a way of thinking. If he's looking for that, he's looking for influence which means he's not sincere. If he was sincere he'd continue to speak what he feels and pay no mind to people who criticize him. Was Ron Paul looking for acceptance? Ever? Think about it.

There's no gatekeeper

That's why he wasn't asking for a group effort. This was a message for each individual to evaluate and decide on. We don't have polls on things like this where whatever the majority decides is the official action of the DailyPaul. He is addressing people who criticize him in order to address it, just like you would want to give your side of the story when someone criticized you about something.

This isn't to say you should agree with or like Beck, but make up your own damn mind based on logic and research. If your instinct is to just label him a neocon and to therefor mindlessly conclude that he is the devil then you are doing the virtual opposite of thinking for yourself and are essentially on par with hardcore liberals who hate all republicans (including Ron Paul) because they are republicans.

I label him a neocon because

I label him a neocon because he believes in preemptive aggression. If you don't think so, you're not listening to him closely enough. But I appreciate you insinuating I'm following some group think. Fortunately, to me, your opinion means nothing.

P.S. Take note, regarding your other reply to one of my posts... this is passive aggression.

And you believe in labels because you are lazy

Why do liberals hate Ron Paul? Because he is a racist and a republican.

Why does njcarlos hate Glen Beck? Because he is a neocon. See where I am going with this?

I see you recently completed a Psych 160 course, congratulations! Now, have you ever met a psychologist? If not, venture out and meet one ASAP, hopefully that is enough to convince you to never take another psychology course in your life.

Oh you're one of those

Oh you're one of those "anti-label" folks. Interesting.

What is the color of my text? Or the color of the background of the container holding this text? Or the color of your username hypertext link? All those answers? Labels.

What do labels achieve? Abstraction. I don't need to go into every detail about what a neocon believes, I just have to say... Beck is a neocon, and I've concisely stated what he believes in.

He believes in authoritarianism as long as the authoritarian ends are what he believes in, so if you don't believe in defending Israel with your life, you're at odds with Mr. Beck.

And regarding my education, I graduated over 4 years ago majoring in Poli Sci and minoring in Criminal Justice. And yes, I've actually been to 4 different counselors and settled on one that was objective and intelligent. What's your point? Whatever it is, I'm sure it's fleeting and insignificant.

Now excuse me while I go feed my dog. Er, sorry, no labels. This 4 legged animal that house a pointy nose and likes to fetch balls and make a sound similar to "woof."

And to some

that label may be blue and to others it may be violet. So the proper label depends on the perception of each individual. This may not matter with colors, but could become more of an issue with humans.

Liberals hate Ron Paul because he is a republican and they don't need to go into every detail about what republicans believe, they just have to say... Ron Paul is a republican, and they've concisely stated what he believes in.

Ron Paul was trying to

No, a label represents a commonly accepted definition. Some sure could think blue is violet, but they won't get very far with everyone living in this world.

Ron Paul was trying to redefine the label of Republicanism. He made that very clear. How else do you interpret the fact that he wouldn't endorse the Republican nominee?

Was it a mistake for him to align himself with that label (those specifics planks of a platform that define a Republican)? I think so. Others don't. Such is life.

The only time someone is lazy is when they see a label and immediately dismiss an individual without listening to them speak and represent their position on issues.

I've listened to Beck. His words put him squarely in the box of a neocon. Why am I lazy again?

Lol

I don't know what's funnier--the fact that you form absurd and unfounded conclusions based on illogical arguments or the fact that you think you are some brilliant individual.

Have fun at Cooley.

Ah, arguments with no

Ah, arguments with no supporting evidence, like, what arguments are absurd, what conclusions are unfounded, what is the flawed logic within my arguments, and when did I say I thought I was a brilliant individual? Projection much?

You've shown your intellectual depth in the insult-filled response on my other post. Civilized debate seems to enrage you. I wonder why.

hahahahahah

hahhhahah

have fun at Cooley you smart boy you!

Very well said

I'm all for working together with people I don't agree with 100%. Even if they agree with me 30-50% it's pretty good.

Beck just seems too eager to be the leader and teacher. If he is slow to understand, as he's said in the past, why would I want that kind of person to be my leader? I feel like I need to be HIS leader if he's going to be that slow, sheesh lol Or maybe I don't want a leader at all. And maybe that is the point.

All that jockeying for position he seems to be doing does not appeal to me at all.

If it's working for you, then go with it

I personally don't trust him. Wish I could.

Fuck You Glenn.

If you don't embrace the Non-Aggression Principle, then you aren't a libertarian.

End of story.

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OK watch this, he'll try to isolate us and disenfranchise us.

This is classic. If he can paint it like we alienate him, he can paint himself as the victim, isolate us and disenfranchise us as fringe. Leaving him as the leader.

Be brave, be brave, the Myan pilot needs no aeroplane.

I Can Understand

I can understand where he is coming from. I have been a Glenn Beck basher for years. I rarely agree with him. However, if he is wanting to learn then brother you are gonna learn. I wrote an article about this - for anyone that cares to read it:
http://www.unleashindependence.com/76/post/2013/02/glenn-bec...

"We need to understand the more government spends, the more freedom is lost...Instead of simply debating spending levels, we ought to be debating whether the departments, agencies, and programs funded by the budget should exist at all."
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