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Glenn Beck apologizes to libertarians, begs them to welcome new people into the movement

Glenn Beck is upset about how he's received by libertarians. He says we're unwelcoming to newcomers and compares some libertarians to Nazi's. He even goes as far to apologize to libertarians for not knowing about liberty sooner... he's begging us to be nice and teach him and everyone else about liberty.

"Libertarians, I'm begging you... please... see the opportunity you have with 30-60% of the nation... people will come your way."

http://www.video.theblaze.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=256...

Glenn Beck famously once called Ron Paul supporters terrorists. In spite of that, he makes some good points about how we treat new people like him, who used to not agree with or even be downright mean to us. I was one of them. This is worth listening to.



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I have

No problem joining together but the bashing on Ron Paul was ridiculous and hateful. And to call us the 1 percent is load a crap. We are way more than 1 percent. If a Libertarian like Ron Paul took Romneys spot, we would have won, so we are way more than the 1 percent. Also Coutler calling us a bunch of wussies confuses me. Didn't Romney get his butt smacked by Obama. Who are the real wussies? Neo-Cons Took it up the you know what. I remember when Beck said even a frog can defeat Obama. Riiight...... It sure seems like he just losing lots of money and his show is on the verge of going down in flames.

I don't not like Glenn Beck

I don't not like Glenn Beck only because of the terrible things he's said about RP and RP supporters; I don't like him because he's just a despicable person and a terrible actor. IMO Glenn Beck has nothing to offer the Liberty movement. Glenn Beck only wants to take from the Liberty Movement. If you can't see the type of person that Glenn Beck is than you're still asleep.

No matter which wolf comes

No matter which wolf comes calling, the sheepskin disguise remains the same.

I stopped the video

about half way through. I couldn't take any more of him lecturing us. When Beck first started, I learned alot about Obama and the various inner workings of the progressive agenda. But, I think he became an opportunist. He said awful, vial things about Dr. Paul and the movement. Now he is trying to attach himself to anything that keeps the ratings up and the money flowing. He is welcome to come here or to read the works of Dr. Paul and others. But I am going to be very cautious as I question his sincerity and am leery of a set up.

Glenn is right

Glenn's right guys; we have standards and we'll call out a statist faker when we see one.

He still won't acknowledge his shameful treatment of Ron Paul, Ron Paul supporters and the ideals that unite us. He still won't admit that he fought/fights for statism and against liberty during the elections.

Actions speak louder than words Glenny boy. We'll be happy to work with you where we agree, but you'll always be treated like the charlatan that you are. We'll work with Barney Frank where we agree, but we will stick to our beliefs.

He will never apologize to

He will never apologize to Ron Paul because he doesn't like Ron Paul and he doesn't agree with Ron Paul.

Notice how he speaks of Rand returning budget surplus like it's something new? Why not credit Ron for doing it before his son? Not possible. Rand has his support because Rand supports sending our men and women in to defend Israel in a religious war, that's why he supports Rand Paul.

Pretty is as pretty does, Glenn.

It seems that Glenn wants a prominent seat in the libertarian in-crowd without paying his dues, or . . . as he complained, atoning for his past. I have been on the Glenn Beck yo-yo since the 2008 campaign and every single time, what comes up always goes back down again.

Dr. Paul's movement started the Tea Party, but GB did his best to co-opt it and pull it away from Dr. Paul. Isn't this just more of the same? What about what he did to Debra Medina? How about the way they tear people apart over silly things, such as Ron Paul's voice. Everything he said here sounds more like a veiled threat.

Imagine Glenn is in college majoring in Theater and this soliloquy is his senior project. It looks more like acting than sincere curiosity or an actual change of heart. Otherwise, why not bring Dr. Paul back and sincerely apologize, then sit back and be instructed . . . on a weekly basis?

Because being easily duped

Because being easily duped and being libertarian isn't mutually exclusive, and he knows this well.

Id say cut him some slack

Beck wasn't there when it counted - when Ron needed his support and if he had given it - would have been a huge boost and maybe would have made the race even closer. This is where I think we are so pissed at Beck. He cut us down - when he could have helped. Now that the campaign is over - he's all of a sudden coming our way. It is enough to make you want to never utter his name again.

That said - So many republicans and conservatives listen to him and his show. If he is starting to espouse ideas and positions we agree with - then why not just focus on embracing that -

Hard to trust -

Maybe we should forgive - for our own benefit - not just his

The problem is that Glenn

The problem is that Glenn Beck is only an actor. He's pretending with everything he does. He's putting on a show. He's only trying to make himself marketable. He's not as smart as he tries to pretend to be and his principles pale in comparison to even that. He's a showman, looking for a niche. His rhetoric is not even Libertarian; it's still that same type of authoritarianism. He's still that same big gov't neocon.

my blood is boiling.

What this douchebag fails to wrap around his puny little brain is our philosophy. He called us fucking terrorists in 07.

Screw this asshole.

'Peace is a powerful message.' Ron Paul

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But P. Nicholson...

He apologized for calling you a terrorist, and in his apology he called you a Nazi and a Fascist. How could you not accept such an apology?

:)

j/k just wanted to see if I could bring the boiling blood down a little.

“I like nonsense, it wakes up the brain cells. Fantasy is a necessary ingredient in living.”
― Dr. Seuss

....

;)

'Peace is a powerful message.' Ron Paul

"CO-OPT WHAT?"

"Co-opt the 1% that you get"...

"Co-opt What?"... Really, if you think we are not a powerful force worth co-opting, then you are FAR stupider than I previously asserted in another post... Ha!

This is why we don't trust you.

With all sincerity Beck... your level of knowledge has yet to meet the requirements of the position you would love to have as a Spokesman for Libertarianism. You yourself openly admit that you are still learning... yet, I would bet dollars to pennies you know about 1/20th of almost anyone here on this site and others from other Libertarian / Pro-RonPaul sites. These people have not just paid Lip-service to Libertarian Ideals, but have taken significant time out of their lives to Learn and promote libertartian ideals through grass-roots action and creative educational services... without the desire for Financial Compensation.

I can't speak for everyone, but when I hear you talk... despite however much you "Say" you have Awoken and realized the errors of your previous beliefs,... I hear someone who perceives Libertarianism as a Team in the sport of Politics. You seem to feel that since the Republicans are done with, you want to use the Libertarian party as a soapbox for your relevance in politics.

Libertarians HATE politics... at least the ones I know.

Your DISAGREEMENT with Ron Paul is nothing short of Ignorance.

Your AGREEMENT with ANYTHING that comes out of ANN COULTERS mouth, is a testament to your true mentality.

You like to say "Libertarianism is about a set of Ideas... MAXIMUM FREEDOM... not about a Person". To this I would like to state that what you peddle does not correlate to MAXIMUM FREEDOM. Either you have yet to learn that most of the crap you say is counter to the Ideals of MAXIMUM FREEDOM, or you are intentionally subverting the message of Libertarianism.

We here know what you and people like you did to the Tea-Party Movement.

We here know that you and people like you are not to be trusted.

We here know that you are a scorpion... and we know your nature.

We here see ignorance as the greatest enemy to FREEDOM.

We here see you as ignorant.

Therefore, you are the enemy.

It isn't about us simply dis-agreeing... it's not about Tribes... it's about what you peddle.

Unfortunately, You and people like you are who "Ignorant Sheep-minded Americans" listen to and form what they believe to be "FACTS" from second-rate, ignorant, behind the curve "Opinions".

As much as we among the Liberty community would love to have another very "visual" person to represent our Ideals. Especially, one that can reach the audience of "Ignorant, Sheep-minded Americans", but... you sir are not qualified for the position.

Our concern is that your backwards notions of Libertarianism will become what the "Ignorant Sheep-minded Americans" will come to believe with absolute certainty what Libertarianism is all about. You sir are a man with a very powerful weapon and no training... the things you say have consequences, and serious effects on the "Ignorant Sheep-minded Americans". These people need to be AWOKEN and not REDIRECTED for your personal profit.

If you truly care about the cause of Liberty, then take some more time to learn before going off on Ignorant and Self-indulgent Rants about Ron Paul or Libertarians.

Ron Paul is no God and although a few worship at the Alter of Paul, A Large Majority do not see him as infallible. We do however agree with his Reasoning on MANY THINGS... THINGS that you don't... THINGS that are the epitome of Libertarian Ideals.

The reaction you have received from the people here is merely the consequence of you attempting to acquire, as an Audience, people who are capable of Critical Thinking.

If you don't like the heat, then stop trying to appeal to people who are not "Ignorant Sheep-minded People"... we see through your crap... even if you don't yet!

With the Utmost Sincerity,
Victor Escobar

You arent wrong, for the most

You arent wrong, for the most part.

However, I do think some of us can be a bit more paranoid than is healthy regarding other peoples' motives. I have known a lot of people personally, who had similar neocon thinking to what Beck has peddled at times (and who never listened to Beck).

I think something worth keeping in mind, is that many peoples' views are shaped by the political atmosphere itself. If there is a prevailing false dichotomy in the public dialogue of neoconism vs leftist-type socialism.. the neocon minded folk arent necessarily bad people, just duped into buying into the false dichotomy.

Once someone is set in their ways, the first reaction is usually to defend against other views in a hostile manner. Beck has obviously been guilty of this in the past. But so have many of us at one time or another.

I think it sets a bad precedent to reject people based on their prior stances and beliefs. I also think it sets a poor example to assume that everyone who does or has disagreed in the past, even publically... or even disagrees in the present does so due to some sinister or selfish motive.

Sure, there are some that do. But I think it is unbecoming of us to assume as such in all cases by default, and treat people poorly as a result.

That is not to say that I think we should by any means welcome Beck or others as any type of representative or spokesperson.. because I certainly do not. ( I would argue our best spokesperson right now is The Judge )But I think forgiveness and understanding for past differences shows good character on our part.

If the Judge can go and have a conversation with the Becks of the world, in a friendly and informative manner - we should be able to as well. The future of this movement is in winning people over, not in hanging on to anger of past transgressions and " I told you so".

I'd buy what you're selling

I'd buy what you're selling if Beck were my brother-in-law, a guy who pays attention to politics for about two weeks during an election year. But Beck has a soapbox and he's been standing on it screaming at the top of his lungs for years.

So what's more likely, that Beck's experiencing an awakening or that he's attempting to lure more of the crowd over to his soapbox?

I must be willing to give up what I am in order to become what I will be. Albert Einstein

I agree with everything you said

... but I do not believe I was making my argument for the average ex-neo-converts, just Beck and people like Beck. I put him in a VERY separate category based upon his position and influence. I welcome any neo-convert... the more the merrier... even if they don't understand Libertarianism 100%... I don't,... and don't think anyone here can say they do either.

Peace,
Victor Escobar

I understand. Something I

I understand. Something I think is important to be mindful of though, is the symbolism. To me I guess it really isnt about Beck, or what he really does or doesn't think. Its that how we are perceived to treat him, is how his follows will perceive that we would treat them.

Just like if we do not feel quite welcomed if w walk into a room and people are bashing Ron Paul... Beck's followers probably will not feel welcome if he is contrite, but we arent very forgiving to him.

The message we send to Beck is, for good or ill, the message we send indirectly to his fans. Those are the people who I really think are important here. To me the question of whether Beck himself has truly turned a corner, or is just saying what he think his fans want to hear and will make him more money is irrelevant.

Coming to good terms with other segments of society - such as Beck fans - in hopes of future political understanding that will give us a smaller , better and Constitutional govt is far more important.

Glenn Beck could be a good

Glenn Beck could be a good thing. He is the kind of person who would've done whatever got ratings. He is a morning Zoo Keeper .. seriously .. and he went to what was hot. When you're at Fox News, you've got to be a neocon (more or less), but even they got rid of him. He has said some terrible things, but maybe he is jaded by being thrown out in the trash by Fox and is ready to "fully embrace" truth. If so, he could be powerful. My Grandma used to listen to ALL of his BS like it was the Gospel.

Isn't it ClearChannel that

Isn't it ClearChannel that signs his $100m paycheck? Is it true that ClearChannel is owned by Bain? Or was that just an urban legend? I just figured he is a bought and paid for pawn.

I think the bigger point is,

I think the bigger point is, no one cares whether you think he'd be good, or I think he'd be bad, or 50% of libertarians think he'd be bad. The point is he needs to stop seeking validation and believe what he believes. If he's waiting for validation he isn't going to get it, point blank. If he wants respect? That needs to be earned. But that'll be one individual at a time, so appealing to a collective is pointless and quite asinine.

Right but he is testing the

Right but he is testing the waters to see what is "hot" that he can tap into. He was a seventh-tier morning radio DJ and become a "conservative" to make money. He is trying to do the same thing here. But, maybe he can reach people for us. Who knows. Or maybe he can't.

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Just think about how many neocons in his audience ...

... will be hearing these ideas of liberty for the very first time.

Google is government.

No, they won't. He can't get

No, they won't. He can't get off the Israeli gravy train. He will never endorse non-aggression. He will never endorse closing empirical bases supporting the military industrial complex for the benefit of their corrupt bankers. There is simply no money in it...

Beck has no principle. There is no money in it.

“Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian.” ― Henry Ford.

Keyword, "audience". He's

Keyword, "audience". He's still only just putting on a show. This is no different than promoting Hannity or Limbaugh to conservatives. It's all just a big dumb show. How many people here would call themselves "conservative"? Out of those people, how many of you like Hannity or Limbaugh? Beck is as Libertarian as these guys are conservative. It's all just a show really; and Beck thinks he's hopping on the next big gravy train. They are all just talking-head pundits trying to fill up time with words.

he is damaged goods

no matter how sincere he may be, (which he isnt)just having him around would only hurt us. would you trust the Bush name if any one of them endorsed Rand Paul or even Ron Paul?would you want them campaigning for Ron or Rand?would you want mitt romney or rick santorum or john mccain or karl rove campaigning for our candidate? hell no!we dont need that bloated bag of puss either. how many times do we have to fall for this guys BS!

Letter to a friend newly

Letter to a friend newly interested in the liberty movement and asking about Beck.
From: 1/9/13
You once asked me what I thought about Glenn Beck. This latest article kind of sums up what I have thought about him watching his career in media and his evolving positions.

He is now trying to shift his brand a bit to capitalize on the growing liberty movement and people are pointing out a bit about his conflicting history on the subject of small government, true freedom and strong non-aggression.
My personal thought,,, he is not to be trusted as his positions are not derived in principle or of any long held conviction. He seems a mouth piece for hire and at this point, nothing more.
Worth reading this; http://www.mediaite.com/tv/dear-glenn-beck-please-dont-call-...

“Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian.” ― Henry Ford.

One thing that *may* be worth

One thing that *may* be worth considering, is that he has his own gig now. Instead of being beholden to Roger Aisles, he is beholden to his own paying audience.

Whatever his motivations may or may not be... if the people someone is financially beholden to are their own voluntarily paying constituents.. I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.

I really do think that in this type of case, its possible to co-opt them. That they may not be some sort of plant to co-opt us. Where the money flows from the bottom-up instead of the top-down, I think it is at least a possibility.

"his own paying audience"???

"his own paying audience"??? Don't buy into his bottom up money stream. That dog don't hunt financially. If it did NPR wouldn't need government funding to spread their socialist propaganda. LOL

Regardless of working for Fox and Ailes or not, he will be driven by advertiser and underwriter dollars (maybe even contributors http://wrongkindofgreen.org/2012/06/19/watch-foundations-of-... looking to hit his demographic to cover their bases).

I doubt any subscribers he may get, that are foolish enough to give him money directly, are going to be demanding a liberty message for their dollars. I also doubt that that subscriber money even makes a full percentage point of his annual revenue. I am sure that he must laugh at that revenue stream each time he talks to his accountant. "fools" ha ha ha.I can hear the accountant now. "These people really pay you to hear your advertisers messages?"

“Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian.” ― Henry Ford.

hmmm we have to trust you

hmmm we have to trust you glenn beck, once we trust you and you show us, we can trust you. Then this is for you:) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMwl6pbCg38

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