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Open letter to Glenn Beck; Welcome to the rEVOLution

Glenn,

I welcome you to the rEVOLution, others can speak for themselves. I am optimistic and excited to see an established political analyst pursuing the cause of liberty. Others are still angry over some of the names you've called Libertarians over the years.

I hope that truth is what you seek, if so, you are in a position to do big things. This movement is a giant movement that wants the truth, and the truth ain't pretty. Marxism is inside our borders under a new progressive label. They merge Government and economy, redistribute wealth, and discredit the opposition... this is real Glenn.

The truth is we need you Glenn, just as bad as you need us. United we stand, divided we fall. I see you're writing a book about Agenda 21, that's GOOD! We need more stuff like that. 9/11, JFK, RFK, Chem Trails, Military Industrial Complex... you get the idea. Conspiracy is real and the implications are enormous when you tie it all together.

I welcome you to the movement and I would like see you here on the DP. I appreciate your courage to apologize to the movement and I for one accept your apology. I hope and pray that you will use your new beliefs to do what journalists used to do which is find the truth. Expose the criminals in Government, blow the whistles, and help spread the wonderful message of Liberty.

Keep encouraging those around you and don't let criticism knock you down. Any fool can criticize and most fools do, that's okay. It is their right to criticize and you'd do well to listen.

I'm glad you've seen the light GB, and I'm proud of you.

God Bless You
-J.D.

P.S. If you have something you'd like to say to Glenn Beck you can contact him here. http://www.glennbeck.com/content/program/contact/




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No one's stopping Glenn Beck from being a Libertarian

It's just that we can't have this inconsistent buffoon pretending he's some sort of leader that speaks for the movement. He can't get beyond his own ego.

NJ

Phxarcher87's picture

IF this is he first

kind of entrance into the liberty movement i guess only time will tell now.

"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" - Mark Twain

reminds me of the laughable Sean Hannity intro

On his radio show...."thiiiiiis is the sean hannity shoooow, Welcome, to the Revolution" followed by some flag waving country song "we'll put a boot in your assss its the Murican waaay"

Welcoming Beck to the revolution is equally as laughable. I cant wait until he stabs us in the back, yet again so that people may wake up and realize he works for the same people that Hannity works foe

"I am Troll fighter, number one"

-Ernest

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxWb-ViejPg

Didn't Beck apologize, then

Didn't Beck apologize, then call us fascists?

exactly

Then went on a ten minute rant about how wonderful Rand is, but how awful Ron Paul supporters are. I cannot believe anyone is falling for this.
They are trying to cut Ron Paul supporters from the liberty movement. They will compromise on "a little war."

This is the article that got my posting privileges revoked:
http://bklim.newsvine.com/_news/2013/05/12/18212165-dr-stan-...

Prepare yourself.

For getting knifed in the gut during a clutch moment in the 2016 cycle.

I do not appreciate your pollyanaism influencing newbies who haven't experienced the last two knifings from Beck. You are misleading them.

He's literally just doing EXACTLY what he said in 2009.

Perhaps you weren't around then?

Dont be so naive. Once a

Dont be so naive. Once a charlatan, always a charlatan.

No.7's picture

Not so

I once supported the wars in the middle east, I didn't really have a good reason though. My reasoning was something like "cause 9/11, that's why".

Charlie Daniels made a song after 9/11 called "This Ain't No Rag, It's a Flag (and we don't wear it on our head)" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ReefB4Vd8uE

Now Charlie is singing about the NWO and narrating documentaries like "Behold A Pale Horse". He even sings about the NWO now http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkw24J1GU7A

It is possible that Glenn Beck has opened his eyes or gained courage to speak the truth. It's also possible he is mooching or trying to alter the message. Either way I'm happy to see the words Libertarian and Agenda 21 in the MSM.

The individual who refuses to defend his rights when called by his Government, deserves to be a slave, and must be punished as an enemy of his country and friend to her foe. - Andrew Jackson

You don't understand the meaning of Charlatan apparently

Because you were duped doesn't make you a charlatan. A charlatan is someone who intentionally misleads people and is a fraud.

So your support of the wars in the ME because you were misled is not the same as misleading people through a national platform to an audience of millions for the purpose of being a fear-monger, alarmist, MSM shill.

Glenn Beck is nuttier than a squirrel turd and lies for a living.

He doesn't need an invitation because people can see through his fraud. Nobody before him needed an invitation and only someone who is trying to commit more fraud would cry and complain about not having access.

The old myth about vampires is probably steeped in a common sense truth;

vampires can't enter your home to kill you unless you invite them in.

History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid.
Dwight D. Eisenhower

Do you know what the "Con" in Conman stands for?

Confidence.

This is precisely how the scam works. Earn their confidence with the truth so you can steer them astray when it matters (at election time). Sadly, even well-meaning folks here at the DP fall for it and start salivating anytime the likes of Hannity, Rush, Levin say something truthful.

Truth is great. But learn to recognize when it's being used to manipulate you.

Beck is a textbook Conman.

Live and learn.

You can try to teach and explain to them, but unless they have lived it long enough, they can never realize it.

But I will say this: the young generation is steps ahead of where I was at that age. They are intelligent, and energetic. They are the future, and I have high hopes :-)

Josie The Outlaw http://www.josietheoutlaw.com/

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

Ha

to the Ha

:-)

robot999's picture

Buck Feck...

http://youtu.be/Kp2c5gK18xA

"Government is the entertainment division of the military-industrial complex". - Frank Zappa

You seem to be trying to

You seem to be trying to convert Glenn into some sort of truther. If you can do that, it might have one advantage. It may go a long way to discrediting truther idiocy.

No.7's picture

He's writing a book on Agenda 21

I think he might have swallowed a red pill.

The individual who refuses to defend his rights when called by his Government, deserves to be a slave, and must be punished as an enemy of his country and friend to her foe. - Andrew Jackson

jrd3820's picture

Old.No7.JD, hear me out for a min?

Glenn Beck did not write Agenda 21. Harriet Parke wrote Agenda 21 and Glenn Beck liked her words enough to buy them and put his name on them.

Now, the words are important no matter what. And in the interview with Harriet Parke it sounds like the deal was fair and everything is good between the 2 of them so I am not even claiming he "stole" the words from her and as I stated the words are still important.

http://blogs.seacoastonline.com/seacoast-nh-books/2013/02/15...

http://www.dariadigiovanni.com/7-questions-for-agenda-21-aut...

What this makes me wonder and what a lot of Becks words make me wonder is... how do you know when he is being genuine or when he is just cashing in on something?

I liked your comment somewhere around here about Upton Sinclair. I did part of my masters thesis on a guy named Theodore Dreiser who wrote similar stories as Upton Sinclair.

But Glenn Beck is no Upton Sinclair, he simply found a story from someone else, he liked it, he bought it and put his name on it. Again, I am not arguing that the words don't matter because I think literary dystopias are extremely important. For any ounce of not being woken up by my father that was left in me, literary dystopias woke me up. Atlas Shrugged slapped me in the face in 8th grade. I used to read the giver over and over and all it ever gave me was nightmares. Glenn Beck wanted a masterpiece dystopia, he wanted to be included in the literary classics cannon, and instead of working his way in he bought his way in.

Anyways, what I am getting at is how do you know what is real with him and what is him simply cashing in on another persons words or ideas?

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Even so, it's still a good thing in my opinion

Glenn Beck isn't Upton Sinclair now, but he could be. GB has over 2 million likes on Facebook. Glenn Beck has an established following and could wake up a massive amount of people. If anything, Glenn Beck should be encouraged by us to tell the truth instead of ridiculed.

From my way of thinking it seems like nothing in the MSM will never be trusted by certain people here. It's like trying to criticize the NRA to people who worship Charlton Heston. It's like criticizing Bear Bryant in rural Alabama... Bear Bryant is God in Alabama and he could do no wrong you see. It looks almost like conservatives condemning Obama for war in the middle east, even if it's something they like they will say it's bad just because Obama did it. Glenn Beck, Rand Paul, Judge Nap, Stossel, Ben Swann, and everyone else who's brought Libertarian principles and philosophies into mainstream media is attacked here.

I think many people here would have nothing bud bad things to say if Ron Paul himself got a show on Fox or CNN.

The individual who refuses to defend his rights when called by his Government, deserves to be a slave, and must be punished as an enemy of his country and friend to her foe. - Andrew Jackson

jrd3820's picture

As always, fair enough

But how do you know when he is being genuine or when he is just cashing in on something?

Or, are you saying it does not matter if he is just cashing in as long as he is talking? As I type this, I am thinking that is probably what you were getting at am I right?

Oh, and if he could be Upton Sinclair he would have written the book himself.

No.7's picture

Pretty much, I'm trying to be optimistic

I want to see the good in Glenn Beck, and encourage him to to good things. If he is just mooching off the market for liberty then I take that as an encouraging sign we are winning. Either way I'm happy Glenn Beck is exposing his neocon followers to Agenda 21 and the liberty movement. Most people don't blindly follow too many TV pundits, but they do research an intriguing idea when they see it. I think Glenn Beck is waking people up, even if he's just cashing in on an expanding market. What does it matter if the ends justify the means?

The individual who refuses to defend his rights when called by his Government, deserves to be a slave, and must be punished as an enemy of his country and friend to her foe. - Andrew Jackson

jrd3820's picture

What does it matter?

It matters a lot.

This is what I see as a problem with the Becks of this world. He starts out by proclaiming he is a libertarian. He convinces his audience they are libertarians... yay more votes for us! Then he justifies the wars and taxes he likes and he simply puts the word libertarian in front of them and his audience justifies it also because let's face it... people blindly follow the Becks and Limbaughs of this world.

Then we have people proclaiming that wars and taxes are great because the word libertarian is there. Eventually the true meaning gets muddied up and lost to the abstract meaning created by Beck and Limbaugh.

That's why it matters to me.

No.7's picture

GB said we should bring all the troops home recently

So is it wrong to bring the troops home because GB said so now? As Kevin Cosner said in JFK "I've always wondered why every time a prostitute was in the courtroom she had to have bad eyesight".

I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. He is probably just cashing in on whet he sees as a hot market. I doubt he has anything diabolical in mind and as long as he's talking to libertarians he might learn something along the way. We all have our roles in the rEVOLution. Why can't we show GB some love and encourage him to spread the message, kindly reminding him when he's putting out the wrong message instead of ridiculing him.

I find it pathetic and saddening that I see more criticism of fellow libertarians on here than criticism of Government criminals like the Clintons, Bushes, Obamas, Boehners.... the list goes on forever.

Why not fry the fish declaring war on us instead of the fish trying to help us?

The individual who refuses to defend his rights when called by his Government, deserves to be a slave, and must be punished as an enemy of his country and friend to her foe. - Andrew Jackson

jrd3820's picture

Of course that is not what I meant

Yes we should bring the troops home.

What we should not ever do is let someone like Beck/Limbaugh/Hannity.... distort the meaning of the word to fit their views.

We all have our roles. Correct. I can't find it my role to promote him. I try to give people the benefit of the doubt, but there are some people I just do not trust.

I think we don't bash on the Clintons, Bushes, Obamas, and Boehners as much because it would be kind of like preaching to the choir, yes?

No.7's picture

Yes, and I know that's not what you meant.

I still think the socialist lot and the warmongering lot could afford a lot more hate than Glenn Beck is seeing right now.

The individual who refuses to defend his rights when called by his Government, deserves to be a slave, and must be punished as an enemy of his country and friend to her foe. - Andrew Jackson

jrd3820's picture

As always

Bingo.

"Then we have people proclaiming that wars and taxes are great because the word libertarian is there. Eventually the true meaning gets muddied up and lost to the abstract meaning created by Beck and Limbaugh."

I will NEVER give relevance to the likes of him. I keep explaining that hidden agendas, chess moves, trying at any cost to get a single man elected will never turn this nation about. It is honesty and truth that must be spread in order to change the dynamics of this nation. People have no core anymore. It is 'follow the leader [gb, matthews, and others] because intentions seem good', that get us into the trouble that we are in.

Josie The Outlaw http://www.josietheoutlaw.com/

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

You seem to revel in ignorance

It may go a long way to allowing the powers that pull off such events greater control of everyone. Well done.

If you are right, Ron Paul,

If you are right, Ron Paul, who properly rejects the "inside job" theory as nonsense is "ignorant." You must be on the wrong site.

Convenient

Its convenient to claim Raul Paul's answer to a moronic question(generally an ambush question during a Fox News debate) in which he said he doesn't believe the "US Government was complicit in 911". This obviously doesnt fully captures his feelings about what took place on 911. And your using it to pretend you know what he really thinks is weak at best. At worst its dangerous and intellectually lazy.

You dont have look too hard to find out that he supports a new investigation because "the investigation was inept which is what government does when it investigates"...with a follow up condemning those who support the official story because they may find (via a new investigation) "that the wars were fought for no good reason"

SO not only does the Original Poster not use the term "inside job" nor does Ron Paul in any way call people nor the idea of questioning the 911 investigation "nonsense" but you continue to miss the point.

There is a reason that a large percentage of people here believe it was not 19 people with boxcutters and they are joined by: Heads of State, Heads of Intelligence, Leaders of Judicial Systems, Architects, Engineers, Pilots, Military Veterans, Intelligence Veterans, Legal Professionals, and Scientists who have collectively all pointed to corrupt mechanations in the false reasoning of the 911 commission report (a known pack of lies and deciet).

Stay true to your beliefs...but have some substance to them. Stop trying to spin the words of Ron Paul to defend your ridiculous assertions of knowing truth of something you are obviously ignorant of let alone what he beleives based on his ability to comment publicly.

"Conspiracy Theory" is a pejorative by way of the CIA in the 60s to prevent JFK research. All you do with trite retorts of this kind is perpetuate the most evil elements of the state. And pretending it serves liberty is an absolute joke and a dangerous one at that.

Nobody, and I mean, nobody is

Nobody, and I mean, nobody is more likely to "spin" or ignore Ron's plain words rejecting the inside job theory than a truther.

When truthers are reminded of the cold-hard fact that Paul rejects their "inside job theory" (after calling people who question that theory "ignorant") they try to turn into an "investigation" issue. I have yet to hear of of anti-truther libertarian who is against an investigation of 9-11....so that argument to say the least is a diversion and red herring. Supporting an investigation has NO necessary relationship to a belief in inside job nonsense.

I also don't mind "JFK research" (I've read all the theories) but that doesn't mean I am about turn a warmongering murderer like JFK into some sort of hero, as many conspiratorialists do.

Ron Paul suports a new investigation into 9-11.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH9nOWnp5G0

From the horse's mouth. Now stop being the other end of the horse.

This is the article that got my posting privileges revoked:
http://bklim.newsvine.com/_news/2013/05/12/18212165-dr-stan-...