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Open letter to Glenn Beck; Welcome to the rEVOLution

Glenn,

I welcome you to the rEVOLution, others can speak for themselves. I am optimistic and excited to see an established political analyst pursuing the cause of liberty. Others are still angry over some of the names you've called Libertarians over the years.

I hope that truth is what you seek, if so, you are in a position to do big things. This movement is a giant movement that wants the truth, and the truth ain't pretty. Marxism is inside our borders under a new progressive label. They merge Government and economy, redistribute wealth, and discredit the opposition... this is real Glenn.

The truth is we need you Glenn, just as bad as you need us. United we stand, divided we fall. I see you're writing a book about Agenda 21, that's GOOD! We need more stuff like that. 9/11, JFK, RFK, Chem Trails, Military Industrial Complex... you get the idea. Conspiracy is real and the implications are enormous when you tie it all together.

I welcome you to the movement and I would like see you here on the DP. I appreciate your courage to apologize to the movement and I for one accept your apology. I hope and pray that you will use your new beliefs to do what journalists used to do which is find the truth. Expose the criminals in Government, blow the whistles, and help spread the wonderful message of Liberty.

Keep encouraging those around you and don't let criticism knock you down. Any fool can criticize and most fools do, that's okay. It is their right to criticize and you'd do well to listen.

I'm glad you've seen the light GB, and I'm proud of you.

God Bless You
-J.D.

P.S. If you have something you'd like to say to Glenn Beck you can contact him here. http://www.glennbeck.com/content/program/contact/




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Where is the Spin?

YOU used the term "inside job". Nobody, and I mean nobody, else use it here. Just you. Not just once. But to begin with and then as main substance in some argument you are having alone in the post above.

Using "truther" and "conspiracy theorist" as pejoratives is small minded (as evidenced by this discussion no one is surprised).

You can apply labels to others and then argue against those labels but substance is your want and its lacking.

Its quaint that you dont mind JFK research...quite a novel sentiment. BUt to qualify your sentiment with an empty and misleading criticism that "many conspiratorialists" prefer "turning a warmonger into a hero" begs the original critique: approach to this whole discussion is light on substance and accusatory in nature.

It stands to reason you are simply scared of what you dont understand. The comments alone support the contention that "you hacent read 'all the theories' about any of this. Or you would a lot more to add. You should quit while you are way behind.

Nice speech but there is no

Nice speech but there is no substitute for plain words and truth in any conversation. Do you believe that the 9-11 attack was an "inside job?" If you can't answer that question plainly, then a conversation is impossible.

Plain words were used throughout

We just had a conversation and apparently you didn't absorb too much of it.

If you had, you may well understand that "inside job" is a vague term used by Fox and others without definition. Its another pejorative the same as "truther", "conspiracy theorist", and other concepts you repeat without knowing where they came from or why they were coined in the first place.

You then try and throw down "was it an inside job or not". Once again not realizing you are using an establishment term meant to discredit one who argues against it.

I am not looking to have a conversation with you on someone else's terms, coined to preserve an agenda, of which you are ill-prepared and ill-researched to discuss.

But, if you really want to continue to find a way out of the mess you created, and you are able to provide a detailed definition of what you mean by "inside job", I can try and answer your currently meaningless question.

If you are relying on the context used in a Fox debate..then we can just let it go right here. But if you have any original though on what you mean by it....then by all means....define it...and we can continue on with the "conversation".

In the end...it seems you are afraid of the truth or at least what you do not understand. It seems that you are comfortable having your language and reality defined by others (why else use loaded terms that cannot be called plain or truthful). You haven't done the research. And name calling doesn't count on the score sheet of debate. I only wish i could call your input a speech, but, a speech needs to have a point.

In the end....i wish you wouldnt call people who disagree with you names coined by the CIA, the Mass Media, and others who have an obvious need to maintain the status quo. I would imagine that both being members here we have a lot more in common than differences.

So define "inside job" with some critical thinking...or just let it go and agree that disagreeing on 911 doesnt mean we are enemies.

I'm not interested in playing

I'm not interested in playing games. I asked you if you thought it was inside job (e.g. an attacked carried out by elements in the U.S. government) and you responded with double talk and evasion. Bye.

No games. Just Discussion. You lost.

No double talk. No evasion. Just simple discussion. You present nothing and run like you should.

But since you provided a definition as i asked I will answer. No. It wasnt an attack carried out by elements in the US govt 'solely'. It was an attack carried out by finance capital, secret societies, and intelligence agencies, from multiple countries in coordination from the same types in the US including some elements of the US govt.

If you weren't such a baby...this could have been the beginning of a discussion. But you dont know anything you were not told by a television. So enjoy going away.

Whew....finally after much

Whew....finally after much evasion and double talk about invesigations he answers the question, though the "no" should be a "yes,: since nobody on either side ever claimed that "inside job" meant solely.

I believe that most of the

I believe that most of the people on the 9-11 Commission now reject their own report, because that is what they say. I believe the families deserve an investigation. I KNOW that a crime was covered up, it is a very serious crime to disturb the scene of an arson with fatalities before the investigation is done. On 9-12, the crime scene was destroyed. It seems "too big to fail" was preceded by crimes "too big to investigate" and people like you are content with a "Commission Report" instead of an investigation.
Plain words? The crime played out on my TV for weeks. The government destroyed the scene of a crime. No ifs, ands or butts. Did you miss it? Or must refuse to see it?

Ron Paul supports a new 9-11 investigation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH9nOWnp5G0

If you are right, the great

If you are right, the great Dr. Ron Paul is a either a fool or liar. I don't think he is either.

Ron Paul supports a new investigation.

Nice try at diversion. No

Nice try at diversion. No libertarian critic of the inside job theory that I know of opposes an investigation. This is a non-issue in this debate and Ron Paul has properly, and repeatedly, dismissed the inside job theory as wrong. The real question here is do you agree with Ron and reject the inside job theory. I do. How about you?

9-12, Government covered up scene of arson with fatalities

before the investigation. That is what I know, I watched them do it.
I don't know what happened 9-11, I want an investigation into it. All we have had so far is "Commission Report" that most of the commissioners now reject.

Ron Paul supports a new 9-11 investigation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH9nOWnp5G0

Hold him accountable and never turn your back to him,

I want beck to be a friend to liberty but beck must learn one thing accountability will be served live if he strays back to big gov neo-con ways. I look forward to beck building alot of trust. He has to build like these guys(doozers if he wants to be taken seriously) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOKBGqgi75Q beck must prove he is the best doozer out there ,beck must be king doozer and show the work to earn that title;)

beck has to earn this trust and show it by action,especially after years of his misleading and straight out lies.

Ron Paul 2012

Woof!

That's how a dog says 'bump'

Reporting on the world from an altitude of 420.

He's not welcome

Seriously go re-watch his "apology", it's a blaitant spin of libertarian ideals to marginalize those who are not accepting of HIM. It's not about the rejection of "newcomers" it's about the rejection of HIM. He's not the typical "newcomer" he's been in the spotlight, sorry Glen you're the "Boy crying wolf" and this is the last cry of that story.

Beep beep boop beep... I am a Paulbot... prepare for liberty and prosperity!

While I agree

with welcoming anyone that shows willingness to learn with the possibility of advancing the cause of liberty, I disagree we need Glenn Beck.

What we need is caring, patriotic Americans. It's less important who that is. The truth can't be stopped and that is what's spreading with or without anyone that wants to jump on board.

We will know...

Beck is serous when he starts promoting liberty minded media (other than himself, if you buy that he is truly liberty minded) and truly tries to get the word out...That is when we will see that he is for real...And I, personally, think it will never happen...I think he is about the money or to disenfranchise the liberty movement...

Bad food, worse weather, please rEVOLution the states so I can bring my family back home!
Rosa Koire for for President!

This turd just realizes that

This turd just realizes that the neo-con Republican Party is as dead as the dinosaurs, and is trying to get out ahead of the curve. If he portrays the proper message it is a good thing because he is established and has hordes of "listeners" who vote. But I'm not holding my breath....

A nation of sheep breeds a government of wolves.

Only thing I agreed with Beck on

Is we have to get behind one candidate soon to get out in front.
If it has to be Rand. Then so be it. We are not going to find another ideal candidate like Ron that has the notoriety and name recognition to capture the republican nomination for president. He very well be our best shot to get a foot hold.

***********Ron Paul for POTUS 2016***********
*************Obama Is A Communist!************
**********Repeal the 17th Amendment**********
Double the size of the House of Representatives
$$$$$$$$$AUDIT THE FEDERAL RESERVE$$$$$$$$$$

Huh??

It is the message, and ACCOUNTABILITY, that is most important - NOT just one man for 1 term.

It is most important to explain to the American people the truth. Once that is done, then we can have 'ideal' candidates all across our nation. Otherwise, it does nothing but perpetuate r, d, r, d. People learn NOTHING that way.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

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It looks like he's trying to tell some truth

Agenda 21 is real, GB is talking about it. http://www.amazon.com/Agenda-21-Glenn-Beck/dp/1476716692

"Any man worth his salt will stick up for what he believes right, but it takes a slightly better man to acknowledge instantly and without reservation that he is in error." - Andrew Jackson

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I understand that he did not write that book.

The nice lady at the precinct meeting yesterday purchased that book. I told her that I did not read that book, but showed her my flyers on Agenda 21, Justin Amash, and a few presidential comparison sheets which explained their positions. Her husband is on the board and holds elected office. She and I spoke for about an hour. She believes gb is like Moses, who is one of the most honest persons alive. She campaigned for bush not once, but twice. I chuckled calling her a 'neocon'. More into the conversation, she informed me that she wept when romney lost, but can not stand Ron Paul. It was 30 minutes into the conversation when she told she wept, at which point I accused her of being a democrat. The look on her face was precious and one that I will not forget.

Her husband overheard and entered into our conversation. He remembers me from high school and knows my popularity in town, and knows just how blunt I can be. I informed him that if he did not hold true to core values and the Golden Rule, he will have me to contend with next election. He explained how the republican party must move to the center and even left if they were to remain 'in power'. I told him that 'his' republican party is dying, and that I will see it through to the end. Toward the end of the conversation he asked me to run for school board, handed me a petition form, and gave me his cell phone number.

Before I even offered the lady the flyers, she had already cleared a spot on the table, took them from me and placed them there.

When you slouch and give an inch they take a mile. When you stand tall and firm, they listen.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

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You make a really good point

I'm not giving an inch when it comes to money or guns. Except that I'll follow all current gun and money laws even though they are unconstitutional. I keep using dollars even though they are unconstitutional. I don't exactly know how to petition my boss to pay me in silver....

That's the thing, we're all compromising the countries laws and founding principles every day. I like that you don't want to give an inch but face it, We the People are all giving miles more than the Constitution allows. I see the movement moving into the mainstream and I sense that many here are skeptical. I think the message going mainstream is an encouraging sign that critical mass is near.

Does it matter if the lade you speak of learns of Agenda 21 through the original author, Glenn Beck, or you? I don't think it does, all that matters is that more eyes are opening to the truth. I think Glenn Beck is doing that right now, but I also think you are right that he should not be trusted for a long time.

"Any man worth his salt will stick up for what he believes right, but it takes a slightly better man to acknowledge instantly and without reservation that he is in error." - Andrew Jackson

"Does it matter if the lade

"Does it matter if the lade you speak of learns of Agenda 21 through the original author, Glenn Beck, or you?"

Not at all :-) But again, there is doubt as to whether he actually wrote that book. I was actually thrilled that the nice lady actually knew about it. Hopefully with the influence that she and her husband have, they will help get the message out there. Still, it is heavy democrat here, so anything that would oppose A21 would more than likely not come to fruition. Ohio, on the other hand, is making great strides :-)

There are areas where I work and promote specific issues, but there are other areas where I focus my attention elsewhere, based upon demographics. It is difficult and exhausting, and though very doubtful, I hope that someday it will pay off.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

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:)

Thanks for reading my comment about the real author... it does not matter a whole lot, but I think it is important in some ways.

"I told him that 'his' republican party is dying, and that I will see it through to the end"

I hope you mean that. Oh, and thanks for making me break out my All in the Family dvds the other night.... Archie Bunker says it best sometimes.

jrd is still here... kinda in a weird sort of way. She also just might be the happiest girl in the world because she got exactly what she wanted which was a perfect summer wandering playlist.

jrd3820

I don't always comment or reply to your posts because you usually take the words out of my mouth, much like rp4pres does. I always do look for your posts and read them :-)

"I hope you mean that."

If anybody knows me, they know damned well that I mean everything that I say. They also know my accomplishments and finish what I begin. I may or may not succeed, that is the choice of the people, but let it be known that I have the determination and resources to get my point across.

lol, Archie sure was a character, but deep down he was right about many things. Not all, but many, lol. I have been watching that Love Comes Softly series when I get the chance. I so wish that we would return to those values in our country again.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

Allow me to Edit your letter?

I welcome you to the rEVILution, others can speak for themselves. I am optimistic and excited to see an established political Opportunist like yourself pursuing the cause of liberty for personal gain with the hope that you will point others in a deceptive direction in the future. Others are still angry over some of the names you've called Libertarians over the years, but we know that was done in order that you could gage and determine how to infiltrate or acquire more listeners/viewers.

I hope that truth is what you seek, -although unlikelyif so, you are in a position to do big things to further the continued deception of global fascism. This movement is a giant movement that wants the truth, and the truth ain't pretty. Marxism Fascism is inside our borders under a new progressive labelof Corporatism that is to big to fail. They merge Government and economy, redistribute wealth, and discredit the opposition... this is real Glenn.

The truth is we need you need us Glenn, just as bad as you need our money, viewership and ratings. United we stand, divided we fall. I see you're writing a book about Agenda 21, that's GOOD! We need more stuff like that. 9/11, JFK, RFK, Chem Trails, Military Industrial Complex... you get the idea. Conspiracy is real and the implications are enormous when you tie it all together.

I welcome you to the movement and I would like see you here on the DP. I appreciate your courage to apologize to the movement and I for one accept your apology. I hope and pray that you will use your new beliefs to do what journalists used to do which is find the truth. Expose the criminals in Government, blow the whistles, and help spread the wonderful message of Liberty.

Keep encouraging those around you and don't let criticism knock you down. Any fool can criticize and most fools do, that's okay. It is their right to criticize and you'd do well to listen.

I'm glad you've seen the light GB, and I'm proud of you.

God Bless You

No need to apologize to all Texans or Debra Medina, nope.. no worries... everything is ok...

Yes sir.

"...You will point others in a deceptive direction in the future."

Bingo. This is precisely how the scam works. Earn their trust with the truth so you can steer them astray when it matters (at election time). Sadly, even well-meaning folks here at the DP fall for it and start salivating anytime the likes of Hannity, Rush, Levin say something truthful.

Beck is a textbook Conman.

Dear glenn beck,

Dear glenn beck,

Until you utilize your great and powerful stardom powers to explain to the American people how the Constitution is being ripped to shreds, speak specifically about ndaa, hr347, patriot act, and WHO is responsible for signing on BOTH sides of the aisle, ESPECIALLY republicans, then I have no use for you.

You see, I already know about you and the duopoly that exists. If you consider yourself a true patriot, which I do not, then you will do what is patriotic and do what is right.

Glenn, as you are fully aware, being that you are a full grown adult who has lived long enough to realize, the travesties to our nation, our Republic, has been going on for a century. Therefore, it is time to sh|t or get off of the pot.

I end this by saying that time is running out. And while others may consider my words to be childish or those of a 'fool', I believe my words are those of strength, and direct; I do NOT mince words.

If the gop fails, then so be it. The time WILL come when true Patriots will stand tall and proud and restore our great nation. With or without you.

Signed,

PAF

To OldNo.7J.D.: He can read it here. I have NO intention of hiking his ratings!

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

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That's cool, he has 2.1 million likes on facebook

GB could do big things, he could hurt the movement too, time will tell.

You can give GB a piece of your mind here http://www.glennbeck.com/content/program/contact/

What you wrote was good info, I hope GB reads it.

"Any man worth his salt will stick up for what he believes right, but it takes a slightly better man to acknowledge instantly and without reservation that he is in error." - Andrew Jackson