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"I have here in my hand..." Ted Cruz and The New Republican McCarthyism

http://youtu.be/wfn8E-_Pi8g

http://www.nbcnews.com/id...

TRMS looks back at some of the distinguishing features of former Senator Joseph McCarthy's speaking style and identifies parallels in speeches by Senator Ted Cruz, something that is actually an asset in the eyes of many on the right.

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Embarassing

It is unfortunate Cruz was ever considered part of our movement. Other posters can excuse him for falling for bad information, or justify his behavior because Maddow, "a known progressive" pointedit out, or whatever.

But, you see him saying those stupid, unfounded, moronic things. And, I wasn't aware before this, that he spoke, poorly, at a Kochtopus event. The Koch's! The "Neocons disguised as libertarians by talking about taxes" brothers. I didn't trust him before, now I can't stand him.

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Ugh, Maddow

Ugh, Maddow

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McCarthy is before my time,

Although we've all been brainwashed against "McCarthyism," McCarthy was right. There really were commies in Hollywood, Academia, and throughout the institutions of the 50's American society. We didn't listen to McCarthy, because the Left successfully demonized him.

Now the commies are in power and they're getting ready to kill you.

Cruz is Zionist shill. All he seems to care about is Israel. However, the same thing happens on the Left. Everyone must care about Israel

Yeah, Cruz should change his name to Vega de David

Yeah, Tom Cruz should change his name to Tom Vega de David!

"Cowards & idiots can come along for the ride but they gotta sit in the back seat!"

McCarthy Was Right

Every person that McCarthy accused was later found to be a Communist spy or sympathizer. Look up project Venona on the web.

fuck you liberals

foreign policy hypocrites have no right to speak. mccarthyism while obama is dumping weapons all over the middle east?

14 minute's of propeganda

What the Republicans are being accused of is exactly what MSM (RM) does.

Hagel's deposit of $200K is not of interest to MSM (RM)? Is it that's why there is no evidense? Better to focus propeganda on Republicans who are working to correct the corruption?

Labeling Cruz, "McCarthy", to a liberal audience, who feel the government intrusion like a princess sleeping on a pea under 10 mattresses, will now look at Cruz as McCarthy, instead of asking, WHERE IS THE $200K Hagel? Ironically, MSM's attack on Cruz is McCarthyism, making a story where there isn't one. So what can we do about MSM (RM) fans thinking MSM (RM) is correct, and we are another version of McCarthy supporters?

I think we need to point out that the $200K is not accounted for and what's concerning that it appears to not matter to MSM (RM) fans.

That government has intruded into peoples lives with the Patriot Acts and expansion of government that breaks with the Bill of Rights and constitutional government, replacing them with precident and propeganda, that has created massive government corruption, and a dumbing down of the public, to the point Cruz is being judged and labeled with no trial, publically.

So.. then I think, she is not talking about Liberty candidates, except Ted Cruz is liked by LM/rEVOLution supporters, so it's interesting that this attack is on "Republicans" but targets one of us.. could ROVE be behind this?(I doubt it, but we have a fight inside the GOP and this hurts us more than the the liberals (least we forget

If you're going to make an accusation

There needs to be some basis of evidence to support it. Cruz's allegations against Hagel were so broad and sweeping it was disgusting.

The Granger, is it true that your big left toe has what some would consider a "forest" of hair? Do you deny this?! Are you calling the accusers who make these claims liars? TELL US NOW OR THE TRUTH SHALL BE REVEALED!

No one can deny that Democrats are guilty of doing this...but that doesn't make it okay for Republicans to do it.

PS: Cruz is a neo-con.

Hagle spent $200K on what?

Apparently there is evidense he spent $200K. Why isn;t that of interest to MSM (RM)?

MSM is doing to Cruz, what they accuse Cruz of doing to Hagel.

Cruz is not a Neocon, and Neocon believes in Bush doctorine and that is not what those who are working to restore the republic believe.

Should it be of interest?

I guess...I mean should we start asking all politicians what they're spending their money on? Or is it just Hagel?

MSM is doing to Cruz, what they accuse Cruz of doing to Hagel.

Are you saying that Rachel did that here? She merely pointed out how silly Cruz's argument was. She didn't in the least resort to McCarthyism which was exactly what Cruz was doing.

Cruz is not a Neocon, and Neocon believes in Bush doctorine and that is not what those who are working to restore the republic believe.

Uhuh. Cruz actually met his wife while working on GW Bush's legal team in 2000. Cruz has the same bias towards warfare and Israel that in fact differentiate neocons from conservatives.

To be fair, Rachel was not the first or only one to accuse him

of McCarthyism...even his fellow GOP poo-pooed him and several articles were calling it before she did her piece.

What liberal doesn't fear McCarthy?

Cruz is nothing like McCarthy, not even in looks, as she markets.

Have you ever been accused of something by a vicious gossip?

That's what Cruz was doing and that is what McCarthy did. Did you ever know anyone in high school who fell victim to this type of gossip and was shunned by everyone? Stuff like this can ruin lives.....which is exactly their intentions. During McCarthy's Redscare, several people committed suicide. Not because they were 'guilty', but because this evil little man made sure their lives were ruined and everyone else was too scared to come near them and shunned them.

That is what MSM is doing to Cruz

You going to tell me this wan't a hit piece on Cruz?

We do ask what politicain spend their money on

And Hagel is being asked what he spent his private money on, because there appears to be some questionable sources, that MSM (RM) are laughing at rather than concerning.. now if, it was $200K Cruz had invested and was looking at being appointed, wouldn;'t MSM (RM) want to know where that investment went if it's not so easy to prove?

Why aren't we asking questions rather than using this as an opportunity to undermine?

So, Cruz mat his wife working for Biush's team.. I have met many Truthers here who were Neocons and then claimed they woke up.

Ron Paul says Israel is our Friend, Farrakhan says Israel is not, so whose side are you on?

You confuse left and right media as one

And Hagel is being asked what he spent his private money on, because there appears to be some questionable sources, that MSM (RM) are laughing at rather than concerning.. now if, it was $200K Cruz had invested and was looking at being appointed, wouldn;'t MSM (RM) want to know where that investment went if it's not so easy to prove?

The liberal media isn't questioning it, but Fox is. In the main scheme of things, the MSM is united in misguiding us, but they still keep up political wing biases for appearances.

So, Cruz mat his wife working for Biush's team.. I have met many Truthers here who were Neocons and then claimed they woke up.

You completely missed my point. The bit about his wife was just a fun fact. I was making a connection between Ted Cruz and George Bush. Ted thinks of good ol' George as something of a hero.

Ron Paul says Israel is our Friend, Farrakhan says Israel is not, so whose side are you on?

Oh boy, here we go again. I don't have bias for or against Israel - this view is seen by neo-cons as hatred towards Israel.

Ron Paul and Ted Cruz both agree that Israel is a friend of ours. But they have COMPLETELY different understandings of the obligations that friendship entails.

Maybe you confuse MSM as two?

Ted Cruz is closer to Ron Paul than Hagel, who spent $200K on a ME INVESTMENT? And he's suppose to be accountable for defense, when we are driving off the fiscal cliff in corruption connected with the ME?

I asked in my post if this was ROVE behind the attacks on Cruz.

You brought up Israel.

Hmmm....

Ted Cruz is closer to Ron Paul than Hagel, who spent $200K on a ME INVESTMENT? And he's suppose to be accountable for defense, when we are driving off the fiscal cliff in corruption connected with the ME?

It's my understanding that the dispute is over $200k he received, not spent. So, what middle eastern investment are you referring to?

I asked in my post if this was ROVE behind the attacks on Cruz.

I find that doubtful. Rove and Cruz share more ideology than Cruz and Dr. Paul ever have.

You brought up Israel.

My "oh boy" comment wasn't in reference to you responding to my Israel comment. It was the fact that you were essentially accusing me of being against Israel because I don't feel the need to suck on their balls like Ted Cruz and the rest of the neo-cons.

I thought it was spent

I apologize if I am wrong about that, but does it make a difference to my point that the money amount came up.. why not a story about the $200K Hagel recieved or spent? What is it for?

And I said, that I find it doubtful that Rove was behind it, but it refered to those in the GOP who agree with Rove, not Rand, not Rubio, and invest in Victory PAC and continuing to push the Neocon agenda with Rubio and Ryan.. by undermining Cruz, who is associated with Rand and the LM.

I alos apologize in that you see me attacking you and making reference to your position on Israel, I was not going there with you.

It does make a difference

I apologize if I am wrong about that, but does it make a difference to my point that the money amount came up.. why not a story about the $200K Hagel recieved or spent? What is it for?

The questions being asked have no evidence to support them - that changes up the dynamics entirely.

Just a couple responses above you were making damning claims...that don't even exist! My point proven unequivocally.

If you believe Joe McCarthy was a red-baiting fool

...then you have been tricked NWO-style. Hell, that's Maddow's very job description, her only talent.

Very true

McCarthy was vindicated years later. It's commonly known now that men such as Alger Hiss, Harry Dexter White, and many others were communist subversives.

"If this mischievous financial policy [greenbacks], which has its origin in North America, should become endurated down to a fixture, then that government will furnish its own money without cost. It will pay off its debts and be without debts. It will hav

She might be maddening...

She might be wrong. But she is so funny.

Not a fan of Cruz. Wish the C4L wouldn't have sent him to Washington when there was a very good candidate who actually had the guts to endorse RP himself.

Looks like DandyRand has pulled a 180 on Hagel

What's up with that... Randeriffic tactic again you say?

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Didn't Ron Paul say in a recent interview

that he believed filibusters were ok/good but that he personally would have voted FOR Hagel? So maybe this is an instance where Rand was acting on the same idea.

He said "probably" much in the same way he says about numerous

things but that's not a yes coming from this man.. so no he didn't say "I would personally vote for him"

He also said a similar thing about the "fair tax" but recanted later after he looked into it..

It's his way of saying I might...

When he is sure about something it's a solid yes.

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Provide the video of it.

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Say please... :-)

http://www.dailypaul.com/275853/ron-paul-interviewed-by-gera...

Go to the 2:38 mark for beginning of topic.

Rand said at beginning of this mess he thinks a president should

have the cabinet he wants. I figured Rand was going to vote for Hagel all along. He was playing the game when he was saying more questioning would be good before a decision is made. I don't think he pulled a 180...., he played fox.

If a president is supposed to get the cabinet he wants, why then

is there a way to stop it... NOOOOOOOOOOOOO they shouldn't just arbitrarily get the people they want.

And playing the game? You're fucking disgusting.. people like you bash Santorum for playing ball and then suck ass when your candidate does it. Wrong is wrong hypocrite.

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