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More fuel for the Sandy Hook speculation fire

Have to say, not sure what I believe or not believe about this entire story, but this certainly makes you raise an eyebrow.

update 2/25 - I am really shocked at some of the comments below. Especially given my neutral statement above....Some of you are unrelentless. So much for trying to engaged meaningful dialogue. Seems most here know all the details of an event surrounded by controversial media stories. Maybe some of you should write a book or make a documentary. DP sure has changed over the years...that is for sure.

Newtown seeks to deny newspapers access to death certificates

The Newtown, Connecticut Town Clerk is seeking to deny newspapers from viewing public record death certificates of Sandy Hook victims, according to the Newtown Bee.
The Clerk maintains that access to vital records such as death and marriage certificates should be limited to immediate family members or their representatives, and has undertaken to change present law.
The New York Post, the Connecticut Post, the Associated Press, the Hartford Courant, and other media have put forth requests for official death certificates of Sandy Hook victims, the Newton Bee report says. Newtown Town Clerk Debbie Aurelia says she is working with State Representatives Dan Carter, Mitch Bolinsky, and the leadership of the state association of town clerks to craft state legislation:

http://digitaljournal.com/article/343981




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Demand it!

The truth will all catch up in time.

eric holder

how many times did he go to sandy hook. THAT is as good as the tracks of the Devil.

Holder was in CT a couple weeks before the incident...

...when he met with the Governor, and he was in CT again shortly after the incident when he met secretly with first responders.

WASHINGTON, Nov 27 (Reuters) - The Obama administration is taking a cautious step toward confronting the politically tricky subject of gun violence with an initiative focused on prevention due to be unveiled on Tuesday...

U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder and Connecticut Governor Dan Malloy are scheduled to discuss the plans at a news conference in New Haven, Connecticut, at 11 a.m. (1600 GMT).

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/27/project-longevity_n...

U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder met quietly Thursday with shaken first responders in the Connecticut town where 26 people were killed in the country’s deadliest grade-school shooting.

The private session came when the nation’s top law enforcement official traveled north from Washington six days after the slaughter at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/attorney-general-me...

Interestingly, and especially in light of Holder's visit a couple weeks beforehand with the Governor, the Governor stated (in the first 22 seconds of this video), "Lt. Governor and I have been spoken to in an attempt that we might be prepared for something like this playing itself out in our state."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsrfFXw6_s4

guns for food

this looks like more advanced preparation for controlled collapse. I am starting to think that this Sandy Hook thing was a gun commercial and the gun manufactures boycott is just a coverup. If they really wanna , they could turn off the food, power, or water, until people buy it back with their guns, they want plenty of volume in this commodity. If we can't tell who is controlling gas, gold commodity prices yet they are behaving as controlled elements, then there is a level of potential for manipulation here that I am not comfortable with at all. It just jives with all the FEMA and Militarization of police, and National park grabs, food, medical everything, time to start welding together the big pieces they have created with the hidden fallacies. Let's figure out a way to expose the sham. They work for us, right?

Can I ask the people who

Can I ask the people who believe this conspiracy a question?

Have they come for your guns yet??? Have they kicked in your door??? Has the military marched down your street demanded all the guns???

Anyone??? WHY NOT? I mean if this were true they would have to strike while the iron is hot, while the stench is still in the air, where people are their most vulnerable... NOT wait until people get smart, get mad, and get organized!!!!

So WTF are you people babbling about??? This is the dumbest crap I've ever heard. It makes us look like a bunch of ignorant apes!!!

It personally makes me want to quit all this and find a new way of expressing my politcal beliefs, because these types of issues will only hold us back....

That school and town were torn apart by this tragedy... At least show some humility.

It is newsworthy that this clerk is taking it upon herself...

...to all of a sudden violate what has been standard access policy, by now denying access to the death certificates.

Not sure why you think it is lack of humility to report such a suspicious thing when this whole Sandy Hook matter has been nothing short of controversial and suspicious.

As to your question about whether they've come for the guns, kicked in the door, or if the military is marching down the street demanding the guns, realize it is that which we wish to prevent.

So when the gov't/media is beating the war drums for gun control, and other places are already enacting unconstitutional gun control measures, and they are using the very fishy Sandy Hook incident to incite such things, it is hardly lack of humility to speak up and call attention to the bs. Rather, it would seem to be our duty. Certainly it is the duty of the press, as they are supposed to be the watchdog, and they seem to be falling short.

I suppose you have first hand knowledge verifying

your viewpoint ? There's one thing (of many believe me)that confirms this was a criminal enterprise (remember the $millions in donations) and that is a Connecticut law SR 1054 that was passed in October of 2011. This Connecticut law gave / gives an exemption to Connecticut Medical Examiner Wayne Carver in releasing ANY pediatric homocide autopsy information to the public. Now why do you suppose that in a sleepy town like Sandy Hook Connecticut there would be a need for such a law ?? Why would any state pass such a law ?? Well if you were going to tell the world that 26 children had just been murdered by a crazed killer you don't have to worry about providing evidence that it had actually occurred, and as the alleged killer offed himself there will be no discovery in a trial setting. It's about the freaking media, and politicians telling the damn truth. Without the truth AND TRANSPARENCY everything falls apart...I don't try to build anything on quicksand...You really ought to pull your head out of the ground.

Just one last kick in the nuts, then a final deathblow

ugh

how many of these things happen instantaneously as government reactions to tragedy's or other events? ponder that for awhile.

this idea that has been pile drived into peoples minds through subversion that as soon as they see/hear/read the word "conspiracy" they automatically assume it is something that is fake, could never happen, is an impossibility.

there are plenty of examples around about the government lying to the people to avoid the truth and using cover stories. that would fall into the category we call "conspiracy".

Now other than that, if you dont like whats being said or done. ignore it.

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These are great questions

May I ask a few myself? Why is there NO video of the 380 surviving children being evacuated (helicopters were circling forquite some time)? No blood? Why aren't people acting frantic in the video? Why is there not one eye witness of Adam shooting anyone? Why is there no further mention of the other suspects initially reported? Why was a picture of someone's living child used to represent a murdered child? Why is there no video of abulances leaving for the hospital? Why are some of the parents of murdered children laughing on camera? Why is the medical examiner laughing? Why was an off duty police officer from another town found in the woods wearing camo-pants, handcuffed, and put into the front seat of a police car? What happened with the initial police report that they were looking for men wearing masks in a purple van, one possibly wearing a nun outfit? Where was Adam from 2009 to present? Why, after all these questions have been brought to light, would the town clerk break the law by restricting access to death certificates when she could nip all this in the bud/put to rest these questions by making available the death certificates? I actually would like you to answer 3 of these question? Pick which ever ones you'd like

Enonesoch

Ok, Einstein. Then please

Ok, Einstein. Then please tell us one good reason why we have yet to see ANY video evidence for Lanza's involvement in the crime? Just show us the video of him breaking down the school house door! And we will shut up. Till then, why don't you get over yourself?

Let's not forget that the

Let's not forget that the video the public was shown was FAKE video of police storming the campus.

You are naive my good man

1500 + high rise architects and engineers have provided overwhelming evidence that the 3 WTC buildings were brought down by explosives - not fire. The government has been lying to the citizens for a long time. When you refuse to look at facts that are presented by competent unbiased individuals, then we will indeed go down to tyrants who are now after our guns.

Your logic is non-existant

And your baa-ing is making me sick

And what baa-ing are you referring to?

Seriously...I made one statement.

You need to have a little more respect for others on this site....especially those that have been here for almost 6 years.

Are you for real, Been here for as long as you have

And its nothing to see here , move along folks. You find nothing that has happened at Sandy Hook suspicious? Have the powers that be not trampled on the constitution at every opportunity. WTF is right they are enjoying this my guess is they will take it as far as they can as a distraction. Their methods are highly fluid, but their goals are dare I say Written in Stone

Sure

I find numerous things that are suspicious.....I have have two issues that do not make me believe 100% that this was completely staged.

1.) My sister personally knows one of the parents who has a child in Soto's class. The graphic detail he gave to my sister squashes anything else....unless he is full of crap. They have known each other for many years, so I am not sure he would lie to her.

2.) That an entire town is in on the fix. Hard to believe.

With that said, has the public been told the truth? I do not think so. What I am saying is that I just don't know what happened.

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I think you are a liar.

I don't think your sister knows anybody.

I don't think your ficticious sister knows a damn thing and you are making it up.

How the hell does your SISTER know graphic detail but no one else in the whole freakin country knows anything of the sort?

You are a sickening, lying little bastard is what you are!

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9/11 Truth.

DP has become a circus

I am not a liar...you do not even know me. And yes, my sister does actually know a parent of a child in Soto's class. She is good friends with his sister who lives here on Long Island. Why would I make this up? Idiot.

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I think the person you are corresponding with is genuine

However, he has a significant mean streak and lashes out at everything, not really realizing that there is generally immense common ground between him and the party he's attacking.

In other words, he surrounds himself with circus. Don't fret; not all of us here use divisive language. And I welcome his contribution, as at worst it's a helpful negative example of useful interactions.

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Maybe

I don't know...think this person needs to relax a bit.But thanks for the comments.

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The circus is you.

You come up with this outlandish statement that your sister knows GRAPHIC details of sandy hoax that you learned through third party. First, your sister knows a parent. Now, your sister is friends with the sister of a parent...

You aren't just a liar, you are a GD liar.

Again, you are the only person in the country who knows this, right? And nobody thinks it important to get this news out to the general public who, of course, have no need to know ANY specifics about sandy hoax.

Just take your word for it, huh? Yeah, you and genius Rosen can go take a flying leap off of your three ring empire of lies. You disgust me. Who's the idiot? You are, to believe anyone would now believe this crock!

Next time, get your lies straight before you come here spraying BS.

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Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

So,

You are telling me that it is impossible for my sister to be good friends with someone who has a brother that lives in Newtown CT? Long Island is only a short drive to CT...look at a freakin map. Not possible, right? God forbid someone went against your narrow minded views...somehow I missed your documentary that details all of the truthful events of Sandy Hook. Forgive me for being naive.

I don't have to prove myself to you or anyone else. I don't come here to DP to post contrived BS, and I am certainly not making any of this up.

I would have never even brought this up had you not first posted derogatory comments from the beginning. Is this how to respond to every person you have never met before? And just for stating that I am unsure as to what really happened at Sandy Hook? You know nothing about me, my ethics and morals. So for you to come here and blast me for my initial non-committal statement is ludicrous. Maybe you need a vacation?

Short sighted people like yourself who insist that their own righteousness prevails over everyone else is pathetic at best.

Idiot.

Weapons of Mass Destruction

I do not think the whole town is in on it. All you need is a few "staged actors and officials". I live in a small area, yet I don't know all the teachers in the 2nd grade and the students. If someone told me there was a shooting I would not be able to verify students or teachers. As far as conspiracy theories - like WMD, which the govt. even has admitted was wrong - ooopppps sorry.

Well,

it is a small town, if only a small number of people were in on it, then that leaves many people who could speak up....someone would be talking about the fake funerals that were held in the town, if they were fake.

I do think there are too many inconsistencies in the story told by the media...I honestly do not know what to believe about the whole thing.

The Gene Rosen guy is laughable at best...fake video footage...etc. I am afraid we will never know the truth.

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Honestly do not know?

Does that include your sister, now?

"I am afraid we will never know the truth".

You are damn right. If we don't DEMAND to know the truth we never will. That's the difference between me and you. I won't roll over and play dead like you. We, at the DP, are NOT mindless sheeple and every day we outnumber and convert mindless drones like you (like me, too, at one time). There is no time, now, to play nice.

Either get on board or get out of the way because this train is coming through!

its 'cos I owe ya, my young friend...
Rockin' the FREE world in Tennessee since 1957!
9/11 Truth.

Geez,

I see you post negative, narrow minded comments on everything that goes against what you believe to be correct and truthful. You need a muzzle.

So now I am a mindless drone? Had I not stated that the events being told by the media are not truthful? I didn't know taking such a neutral position on a topic would be so detrimental to your mental health.

Again, you know nothing about me...so stop trying to condemn me with your 2nd grade reading skills.

Granted

A false flag does not mean no one dies. Remember Oklahoma city and the day care.

The Plot Thickens

No big surprise.

skippy

It's for the children

You want to know who has lived or died, sure it's public record, but have you no heart? We told you who died and how. Sure there's nothing to actually prove our claims, but shut up and go away.

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Weird...

It is rather strange that public servants don't, y'know, serve the public under the rules of the day, and instead look to change the rules to benefit them somehow.

Regardless of the correctness of hiding information from the public, these servants should be following the laws as currently written. Release the information.

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