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Louisiana sinkhole update - situation continues to get worse.

http://beforeitsnews.com/gulf-oil-spill/2013/02/la-sinkhole-...

Had to halt work for the tremors on Tuesday. Governor Jindahl has not even visited the site - remember that when he wants to be president.



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p.s.

How much will the taxpayers be on the hook for?

donvino

Property Values

Must be great for property values around there. Those companies in charge of this mess should compensate owners there imo.

Hopefully their property tax will be nullified because of this. Otherwise, they are sol.

donvino

mineral rights

If the land owners own the minerals than they would most likely be more worried about the check to stop coming in the mail from the production each month... After leases, extensions, and production they should have a bit saved up. If you are gonna lease your mineral rights, you better research the company who will be operating... But either way they got screwed.

proverbs 20:15
There is gold, and an abundance of jewels;
But the lips of knowledge are a more precious thing.

I used to work for Texas Brine

What happened was under-saturated brine began washing out the salt-dome and the salt began to go into solution and eventually the dome caved in on itself. There's a pipeline nearby and storage wells. These things tend to balance themselves out and I would ignore the hype around it. Sure it's making a mess and you see the sinkhole expand, but all this talk of explosions is non-sense. The only time to worry about these kind of things is if the well had a blowout and continued to release pressurized gas and fluid. That would be an uncontrollable situation. It's simply a hole in the ground with formation falling in that is only helping subdue any potential problems.

Liberty: Too big to fail

Did you read what you just wrote?

The "professional blind spot" is the HARDEST truth to accept... For me, accepting that not only was I duped into using prescription drugs that nearly killed me, but I had helped peddle Pharma based healthcare my entire career, proud of what I was doing and really good at it.
You admit you used to work for them, then go on to say not to worry that it is all hype, and then admit that if there is a blowout it would be an uncontrollable situation.
They are having tremors. A blowout is exactly what is feared, and if you don't fear it go live there, but the people who DO live there deserve to understand the very dire nature of the possible outcome. They do not need placated by people who profit from offering platitudes. Texas Brine is still not paying for the homes that have collapsed, they are proving themselves to be corporate swine.
There is a DPer who works for the oil companies who still insists the BP incident was no big deal.
I hope you will look at your post again, and see the effect your professional training has on your ability to offer an internally consistent opinion. Maybe you will go so far as to consider the possibility that you have your "professional" filters obscuring your vision.

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You're getting the wrong impression

I actually despise Texas Brine, one reason why I don't work there anymore. You have to understand that this has been an on-going situation for months. So the only potential disaster is if the sinkhole expands large enough to communicate with nearby wells. If this well started blowing out and you saw 200 foot of fluid in the air you could then worry. Gas bubbles up in lakes every day, and methane bubbles up in Louisiana swamps every day. Obscene amounts of hydrocarbons seep up from the sea-floor every day. Don't try to insult my intelligence with this "professional blind spot" junk. I'm telling you a simplified version of how uneventful this situation currently is. The question you should be asking is why hasn't there been a 3D seismic survey to assess the downhole expansion and how that is evolving over time. Then you can figure out the risk this sinkhole poses to communicating with other wells. Until that is done, everything else is purely assumption with limited information. You also have to determine how much, if any natural gas is posing a risk to be released to the surface if any further downhole expansion takes place. If the weight of the fluids downhole are similar, there will not be a rapid release. Natural gas because of it's nature to expand as the hydrostatic pressure becomes lower closer to the surface is the only major threat.

Liberty: Too big to fail

Thanks

I did not do much research on what type of storage was going on here. Just skimmed the article. From what I gathered I thought that it was a reserve storage within the salt dome. After reviewing, I agree with you completely.

I am surprised that nearby wells are even still producing from this dome if formation water has began to take the salt into solution. You would think their water cuts would increase or even compromise their seal in the nearby wells. If this has been ongoing than they should have taken care of this as soon as possible. What a joke. It is unfortunate that some companies do this to save money, thus making the rest of the industry look bad.. I know the majority of operation are successful but do not make the news...

My thoughts.

proverbs 20:15
There is gold, and an abundance of jewels;
But the lips of knowledge are a more precious thing.

Explosion?

Natural gas needs oxygen to burn. If you lit it at the surface it would spew a flame like when you turn on your gas stove.. The flame would not recede into the anoxic storage down hole. Not saying it is the safest scenario or that it isn't terrible. But I wouldn't be as worried about explosions; Fire on the other hand is quite possible...

Best of luck to them.

proverbs 20:15
There is gold, and an abundance of jewels;
But the lips of knowledge are a more precious thing.

Earthquakes.

They are having tremors, and it is on the New Madrid fault zone. No guarantee that anoxic environment would stay that way.

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Don't take ANY cigarette breaks on this job

I didn't realize that the sink hole is a collapsing salt dome.

Salt domes used to store natural gas. How much natural gas is being stored there?

Don't take ANY cigarette breaks on this job!!!

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This source says 1.5 million barrels of liquid butane

http://www.examiner.com/article/sinkhole-h-bomb-explosion-eq...

Not sure how accurate it is...

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Chevron has...

"Chevron has three natural gas salt dome storage caverns in the area with a total capacity to hold 12.7 billion cubic feet of gas, according to the company website"

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/08/us-chevron-natgas-...

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Yeah.

It is what you could call a "potentially explosive situation" except that is what the jackboots call a drunk and disorderly call...
It is bad, if this thing blows Louisiana will think Katrina was a walk in the park.

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What I've heard

After I post this I will try and find a source, but I think I remember hearing that there are 2 large tanks of natural gas in the salt mine. I want to say that the sizes were "two empire state building sized tanks".

I'll be back...

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Thanks for the update

wow, it just keeps getting bigger.

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