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When Ron Endorses Rand in 2016?

What happens when Ron endorses Rand in 2016? (And don't say he won't). Will that make Ron a sellout? Will there be dozens of threads about how Ron has fallen?

Doesn't matter what forum you follow, it always boils down to a bunch of juvenile ranting. Gets so annoying to see all the crap about Rand.

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Ron taught us to be critical thinkers

I won't support Rand just because Ron endorses him. Likewise, I won't think any less of Ron if he does.

Let me ask you a question...

How'd you feel if Ron endorsed Romney instead of Rand?

Just a ridiculous comment.

Just a ridiculous comment. Rand endorsed Ron in the primary and campaigned for him, and endorsed Romney in the general election when all of the primary contests were already over and Romney had secured the nomination.

I see.

Quick hypothetical.

Rand and Mitt are running. Everyone is waiting for Ron to endorse Rand. Mitt overtakes Rand and Ron endorses Mitt.

Are you saying you'd be okay with that scenario?

Am I still being ridiculous or am I just beating the shit out of your hypocritical argument?

In your hypothetical

In your hypothetical situation, if Romney reached the number of delegates it would take to win the nomination and clearly had the nomination won, I wouldn't have a problem with Ron endorsing Romney.

That's exactly the same scenario that happened when Rand endorsed Romney. Anyone who said that Rand endorsed Romney over Ron is LYING. That is just STUPID beyond belief, and anyone who utters that kind of crap needs to get their head examined.

Oh please.

Even if you won't admit that that would bother you, most other pro-Randers have the principle to say that it would.

You know, you really do live up to your name...most "real conservatives" don't have any problem with avoiding the argument and resorting to ad hominem attacks to discredit people they disagree with. Clearly you don't either.


Ron endorsed my new senator, Ted Cruz.

I supported Addison, because he was the better candidate.

I don't consider anyone, Ted Cruz included, a traitor to the movement per se. I don't think Cruz was a part of the movement.

Rand...I'm on the fence about. I put my trust in Ron Paul fully because of his history. We can not write off someone from a few years of service; especially when we're in an economic crisis.

Regarding the war-like actions certain senators have taken, such as voting for sanctions on Iran, I believe they've gone overboard.

Personally, if I were to cast a vote for Cruz or the Lieutenant Governor Dewhurst, it would be an absent vote for both.

After his activist questioning of Hagel, it is just too hard to take him seriously. I haven't read any liberal accounts or articles of the situation. It is from my own research on the Israeli/Palestinian conflict that I base my decision. I am pissed to say the least.

Anyway, if Rand Paul were the best choice at tomorrow's presidential election, then you're damn right I would spread the word like I did Ron Paul and become a delegate in his honor.

Love thy enemy.

I'm in Texas as well

Funny you should mention Addison because I was really rooting for him even though he didn't have much notoriety.

I was against Ron's endorsement of Cruz from day one. I can smell a neo-con rat easily. His actions and words have reaffirmed that.

No kidding.

Most of the people I waved signs with were pro-Addison, as well.

We could have had a better senator than Ron Paul would have been. And that is saying a lot. You know what I mean?

Love thy enemy.


"when all of the primary contests were already over"

You are VERY wrong about that.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

No I'm not. Romney had

No I'm not. Romney had secured the GOP nomination at the time Rand endorsed Romney, and there were no primary contests remaining. Get over it.

Rand's endorsement effected more than himself

The Texas State GOP convention was going on and after his endorsement many from my Congressional district lost heart and left to go home. Their votes were critical as we were voting for delegates and other positions in the congressional district and the Texas senatorial districts. It will be very hard to get over. What was hardest to deal with is that I know, through an insider, that he went behind his father's back when he made the endorsement.

John Calone, MD

The point is...

When Rand Endorsed Mitt, it was pretty clear to anyone with even the slightest critical thinking skills that Mitt would be the nominee barring a miracle happening at the convention.

only recently

on O'Reilly Rand said: "I have a lot of respect for Governor Romney"

whatsup with that?

Rand is a Republican and

Rand is a Republican and wants Republican voters to have a favorable opinion of him. How hard is that to understand?

are you sure?

"Romney is now a toxic asset to unload," the historian Jack Bohrer remarked Saturday. "The only interesting thing left to his story is how they dispose of him."

why republicans want to make mitt romney go away


but it's not, that truths can have a tendency to become skewed.

I personally think that more people should be directly involved in the process, so that when one makes statements, they will at least have something to back their claims up.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

I was merely refuting his point

I don't care when Rand made the endorsement, only that he did in fact do it.

Which is why I asked..."How'd you feel if Ron endorsed Romney instead of Rand?"

Thanks, awl19

And what was MOST upsetting was everything leading up to all of that.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul


There is no sense in arguing with somebody who does not know the facts, nor wants them.

Before this Republic is able to be restored, the first thing that needs to be done is to convince people to be honest with themselves, and with others. You can start the trend.

"What if the American people learn the truth" - Ron Paul

Ron has a thirty year consistent record.... and a son.

People will make up their minds based on all the circumstances. But since Ron won't be 'doing it for his own advancement', I can't imagine how 'sell out' would enter into it.

But tell me, will all those who have been saying 'endorsements don't matter' suddenly decide they do?

Integrity means having to say things that people don't want to hear & especially to say things that the regime doesnt want to hear -RonPaul


the Republican Party is toast. Ceding power, neglecting to use/enforce retained power, pro-Fed, pro-police state, pro-war, pro-Israel, staunchly pro-life and anti-gay, continued endorsement of ineffectual, inappropriate candidates (Rubio, Christie, etc.) will get us nothing but heartache & Hillary 2016.

When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign: that the dunces are all in confederacy against him. ~J. Swift

I couldn't agree more!

Well said, Betty!

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If a Republican being pro

If a Republican being pro life is a bad thing, then why are you a Ron Paul supporter? Ron Paul wrote an entire book about how opposing abortion rights is the only position consistent with liberty.

Many people did not agree

with everything Ron Paul stood for, yet supported and voted for him. I am not a 'one-issue' voter.

When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign: that the dunces are all in confederacy against him. ~J. Swift

How about

because an informed person is not a one issue voter? Ron is a devout Christian too, and yet I am not. Should that preclude me from supporting him? It was a crude way the poster phrased it, but there is no need to question his/her goodness because of it.

The POTUS race is rigged, so...

...I'll focus my time, energy, and money on local races, esp the local sheriff. We ALL can go personally meet our sheriff, and be heard, but that's not possible for the POTUS campaign. And furthermore, the PTB dearly want us to waste our time and money on the POTUS race because they have rigged it.

Rand will get the smear campaign and black out just like his father. I wish Rand would just lead the fight for state nullification, working closely with state legislators.

"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a rEVOLution before tomorrow morning." - Henry Ford

jack kerouac said long ago:

"nobody knows what's going to happen to anybody"

& in the world of politics where things can change in a heartbeat,
let alone a back room deal that goes double.

there was a thread on this issue a while back; some said an
endorsement wouldn't matter, some said it would, others said
he might not endorse anyone, others said he might run
himself, and so on. one thing i don't believe you're going
to see is 10000 screaming college kids, a youth movement
revolution like his dad's.. i predict a more straight forward GOP agenda
with a concession here to the liberty movement & there to the
hispanic vote.

"gets so annoying to see all

"gets so annoying to see all the crap about Rand"...But you continue to post about Rand knowing this????
It actually gets boring to see continued posts supporting Rand.

Ron is a sellout, or at least fallen. Only Christ is not guilty.

But I still support both Ron and Rand.

They are working on our behalf as opposed to the numerous special interests.

Ron and Rand have successfully formed coalitions with diverse opponents of ours.

Yet they have rarely compromised, and only in the short-term if at all.