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The City of Detroit to be Taken Over by the State

Detroit Mayor Dave Bing says Governor Rick Snyder will announce a state takeover on Friday

Bing says the governor told him his decision during a phone conversation this morning. Bing was talking with reporters following a speech before the Detroit Regional Chamber at the MotorCity Casino.

The city will have 10 days to appeal the decision to the governor.

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Chicago had trouble. Taking over Washington DC helped recovery.

Might Detroit take over Michigan? Help comes to those that help themselves, does it not?

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Detroit was a city before Michigan became a territory.

If this is a bankruptcy case why doesn't it go to the courts. Why is it the State's business?

The nanny state strikes again. Except the State is Bankrupt or would be if they weren't getting Federal Aid borrowed from the Federal Reserve.

The state of the Detroit can be measured by the number of City employees, the number of unfunded pension liabilities being paid.

But how many taxpayers are there?

Detroit was a small but thriving city in Colonial times. How did they manage that?

However they managed, it was with a limited government.

Free includes debt-free!

For more on Detroit's impending demise...

..or previous demise and current renaissance through unorganized entrepreneurship and limited government, see
Karen deCoster &
"Detroit: from Rust to Riches".

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I also follow Karen at LRC.

Thanks for the link, I'll check it out.
http://detroitrusttoriches.blogspot.com/

Free includes debt-free!

Looking Forward

to the consequences.

Will state emergency services be taking over as well?

I don't think public workers will work for minimum wage in Detroit.

Perhaps even more people will mover further eroding the amount of taxations to be collected. The Churches could likely receive more donations.

How will the roads be repaired? Who will pay? They should make many of them gravel imo.

donvino

They don't get much for property taxes.

You can buy a house there for as little as 1k! And the houses there aren't worth much, so I don't know exactly what the people pay for taxes. And many of the homes are just sitting there abandoned. What I do know is that only 50% of people that live there even pay their taxes. Also, there used to be many companies there. Most of them moved out. That was a lot of their income. People that still work there pay Federal, State and Detroit City taxes out of their income. Many people that live there don't even work there anymore, if they even work at all. Most or close to all teenagers don't even work, which leaves the door open for joining gangs or early motherhood. Those kids don't have much of a chance to live a normal life growing up there. If you aren't street smart, you don't even survive.

Thanks

Very tragic indeed. Some companies under heavy security with decent tax breaks have to move in there otherwise it will remain as is imo. The people that reside there should get first chance at any jobs.

The whole city should be declared a tax-free zone :)

Bulldoze and remove what cannot be salvaged including utilities. That city is prime for regeneration imo. It is a port city. It should be rolling in it.

Perhaps building a huge railyard there to take the pressure of Chicago might help.

The truck traffic should be less than in and around Chicago for getting to railyards there.

I see endless possibilities for Detroit if the politicians of all levels were to get out of the way.

Moreover, I would be inclined to think that a huge college or university would also help.

The costs of security would be huge in the short term but that is the cost of doing business there now. Perhaps former military people could be hired for it while cuts to all other services are made in the meantime.

donvino

Latest breaking news...

...Romney could be a contender for Emergency Manager for Detroit! Hah...that's just too funny!

I'm sure that will make everything right as rain

The state is taking over! Detroit is saved! hooray!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Eh

Hate to say it, but I know Detroit, I don't know if there's a more corrupt city out there. They're a close second to DC.

As a Detroiter, I'm a bit concerned, but honestly it can't be worse than how the city officials have been running it.

Eric Hoffer

Hope This Isn't The Future Trend

nationwide. Agenda 21 comes to mind.

skippy

Maybe Detroit is doing ok.

Maybe Detroit is doing ok. Supposedly a significant % of the property owners are not paying property tax and the city government is too dis-functional to collect, and a significant % of the people are armed, and people are just doing urban living on their own. Detroit may have gone feral. Detroit is one of the most economically productive and powerful cities to exist in the known history of civilization and was sucked dry by the three levels of government in about 40 years.

There's actually a lot more reasons...

...than just that. Being born there and living within an hour there my entire life, I could tell you a lot of stories. Government has been the worst enemy, but there are many other reasons that I wouldn't want to get into on why the city has been going downhill for so many years.=/

Without

the intent to pry in your personal business, would you mind elaborating on the subject of Detroit's decline from an eye-witness perspective?

I really don't wanna say much because...

...people might think I'm prejudice or something. My Dad said when he grew up there, you could camp out on the front porch. Unlikely today. He was one of 3 white people left in his high school and the rest tried to drown him in the high school pool(he gave us all swimming lessons before kindergarten). We moved out of Detroit when I was about 3(to unsafe for some). When I was 10, my grandmother was the only white person left on her street. We were there one day...all her children and grandchildren) for a visit. An hour after we left we received a phone call. My grandmother had said there had just been several gunshots through her back door going into her kitchen everywhere. Had it just been a little earlier, many of us would have been hit! This was in the mid 70's! After 40+ years and raising 7 children there, she was chased out of her house by gunshot...she finally moved. Detroit wasn't segregated as some say...it was taken over by the choice of those that lived there. That's just stories from then. Now it is worse. Many of those of color come to the suburbs to work and shop because it isn't safe for them. It is run by gangs and corruption. I feel sorry for those of color who are trying so hard to make it a livable decent place...because many are good people who really do care.
Although I don't consider myself prejudice, people in my family have been on the receiving end of such acts, but you never would hear that...only the opposite. However, I have friends of color..so I am not that way and they aren't either.

We abandoned our cities

Happened nationwide during the 50-80's. Gen-X started moving back into the core in the 90's and today the trend has been reversed... except in Detroit. There was nothing left to move back into economically.

The city needs a good turnaround specialist - it has to be re-shaped to the new realities and cannot hold onto the Mowtown past. Problem is "dead' cities are the perfect place for corruption to thrive.

Maybe a takeover will break the cycle. What is there to lose at this point? The city can turnaround. It takes a generation of "urban pioneers". Don't give up !

"One resists the invasion of armies; one does not resist the invasion of ideas" Victor Hugo

I've been in the suburbs most of my life.

I have only gone to Detroit for an occasional concert or something. We go only with many people. I don't even go to the fireworks for July 4th, because the last time I went, my shirt was grabbed and ripped...but I caught it in time. It's run by gangs...one cannot fix that. It's their city and has been for years. Those in the local government there, just take what they think is theirs and do nothing. People run red lights, because they are too afraid to stop at them. They don't even get a ticket for it. If you work there, you have to pay a Detroit City tax. Usually, the large companies are highly secured. I have known people to go to Wayne State and you wouldn't believe how many hubcaps and car radios they go through! I cannot even believe someone would want to be a cop there! It's really sad.

Seen it before

It can be turned around. Takes someone willing to clean up and build confidence.

Reason the gangs own it - people leaving, coruption, apathy, poverty, its a vicious cycle. We nearly killed our cities. Detroit and the upper Ohio Valley have been hit extremely hard. That's what happens when you sell out your manufacturing base for short term profits.

I agree - sad and hard work to reverse it.

"One resists the invasion of armies; one does not resist the invasion of ideas" Victor Hugo

If your curious...

...google Arcola Street, Detroit MI. Look on the map. We lived closest to Van Dyke. There were tons of houses and the street was really nice back then. Now the houses are gone or abandoned and only 5 left! The opposite side must have been built after we left...still looks decent. But I cannot believe it. You can get real close to the actual homes to look at them. I wish I could show you the family pictures of how it used to look there. Looks like a war zone now!
Also, on our local news, they occasionally show those who care trying to fix up their neighborhood. They complain that it gets destroyed by those who don't care and also complain about garbage sitting out for weeks and no one picks it up. There are those who still live there that care, but there aren't enough of them.

BTW...Kwamee just got convicted of his crimes a couple of hours ago!

Thanks very much for the information

I grew up in Ontario, well within broadcast reception range for Detroit tv/radio. I can corroborate: Detroit was a great city.

Thanks all

I grew up outside of Buffalo, another 'rust-belt' city.

It breaks my heart to see a decline from such magnificence, although I remain an optimist in the virtues and principles of freedom etc

Habitat for Humanity Demolishing MI Homes

I remember reading this. It may be the answer, contract the neighborhoods and consolidate. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/19/us/19saginaw.html?_r=0

A number of towns come to mind: Flint MI, Gary IN ( http://www.forbidden-places.net/urban-exploration-gary-india...) ... Wilmington DE, Newark NJ...

Or maybe that is the cycle. Maybe once a city is no longer viable there is a short window to adapt and thrive or die. Cities have ceased to exist throughout history, its not a new phenomenon.

Thanks for sharing the experience. More of America should know what is happening.

"One resists the invasion of armies; one does not resist the invasion of ideas" Victor Hugo

I did not vote in support of

I did not vote in support of the emergency manager law last election. My option would have been let the city fail on their own. I agree the emergency manager has been successful. The emergency manager was writing blank checks for cities without control on spending. The new law would give them more control over their "investment". It is disheartening to see the people in Detroit conditioned to accept the way things are. Apathy has certainly taken over and one has to wonder how much they must endure before they wake up and take their city back.

I would be alot more worried

I would be alot more worried if the federal government was coming in, but they arnt, the state government is coming in. It will be interesting to see if things can be turned arund quickly or if it will limp along for a while.

To climb the mountain, you must believe you can.

Yeah, pretty much that

I can feel a bit of a foreboding feeling - a conditioned reaction to seeing government solutions to government problems be worse every time. I'm just going to set that aside for now until I can attach some reasons to that feeling for this one.

Defend Liberty!

Posting about big government?

You guys posting about this being a big government takeover have no idea what you're talking about. 99% of you wouldn't go into the city if you saw it. It's a disaster. This is part of an emergency manager law in MI. When a city becomes so screwed in MI that they're hopeless, an emergency manager is appointed.

I have

About three yearrs ago. You are right it is crumbling. The roads are the worst I have ever seen. The police there must have a terrible time of it. Yet I do not think the rest of the State should be on the hook for it. They are all going to have to make minimum wage in the city inc. or move imo. They are paying for the sins of the past and pensions should be cut in half too.

I think more people move south or west now.

donvino

Great investment opportunity, invest in Detroit

Rick Snyder will have Detroit turned around, with the right free market incentives, it will be back. Detroit has had horribly corrupt liberal democratic leadership for so long it's a miracle it lasted this long.

Huge win for

socialism imo.

donvino

Bad news

Hopefully free ideas will eventually win the day