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Reasons not to trust Glenn Beck



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The elusive obvious

If he was a libertarian at heart when he was at CNN, then said he was most in line with libertarian beliefs over all others at FOX, and now says outright he's a libertarian, why did it take him so long to figure out what that really meant? He says he does a lot of research.

It's not like he didn't have plenty of advice from Napolitano and Stossel. So he knew what libertarians believe. Most people tend to wake up much more quickly than that. Why did it take him so long to embrace it?

What's Up with This Trust-Question!?!!?

What does it matter if you can or cannot trust Beck? Why do you need to trust him in the first place? Why is this question of trust so important to many people in DP?

Why can't people be just happy that Beck is talking about libertarianism to his audience/followers and interviewing libertarians like Napolitano, Jillette, Hunter, etc. Would it be better than he would not do that and his fans would never hear these discussions and interviews? What does it matter what is Beck's ultimate goal with what he is doing? What does it matter even if in one year Beck would turn his coat and start preaching about the true evils of libertarianism? Just be happy that he is doing it now and many people who haven't heard anything good about libertarian ideas are hearing them now and maybe even soon find their way to read Napolitano's or Woods' books.

Just a little advice for some of you:
Never Trust Beck! Anybody who trusts Beck is a dummy. Just Enjoy his Libertarian Carnival as long it lasts.

Maybe soon the festive season over, but who cares. At least some of his listeners at time have come to understand that the REAL DEAL is to be found from somewhere else. Maybe some of them have found their way even to a place called DAILY PAUL.

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Beck is just like the rest

of actors over in the msm looking for ratings, spewing propaganda, and almost always pushing some sort of agenda. When he decided to call RP supporters potential terrorists, he lost any chance of me believing anything that comes out of his mouth..

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Tell me about these so-called

Tell me about these so-called high ratings you speak about. How did they work out for Freedomwatch?

Have you ever said something you regretted or changed your mind about, or have you been right your whole life?

Also, that Beck comment was in 2007 when he was a full-fleshed neocon.

Has he changed? maybe, maybe not. But if him talking about it converts a few of his listeners to learn more and then become libertarians, I am happy. I am sure you won't want that to happen.

If you disagree with me on anything you are not a real libertarian...

Gotta love Becks version of libertarianism

I think I'll pass.. the desire to grab a "few" libertarians out of the twisted mess he calls libertarians, isn't worth the risk of making him a face of "true" libertarianism so he can suckerpunch us at a later date.. and it will come.

He has done that time and time again. It's morons like you that would have us following him off the cliff like lemmings.

Won't work sally.

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Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution, inevitable.

I see it differently.

Glenn Beck is not Mitt Romney running for office. Glenn Beck is the ONLY big media personality that might teach Libertarian principles to wider audience that is still uninformed. Listeners of Andrew Napoletano, Tom Woods, Lew Rockwell are already converted. Alex Jones himself preaches populism peppered with some Libertarian slogans.

The value of Glenn Beck for us should not be overlooked. Our anarchists can spend days and months arguing about their ideas without persuading anyone. Glenn Beck can turn around thousands in a matter of several shows.

I agree, but say keep a close eye on him.

I agree, but say keep a close eye on him. The people are sheep and if Beck starts to become this "leader" of the Liberty movement, he could have serious influence over the movement and be used just at the right time to..........lead us to a certain candidate that might not be one of ours. Meaning, he could be a useful tool.

This is tough b/c we could use some help going mainstream and fast forward the awakening, but at the same time, we all knew TPTB were going to try and infiltrate, divide and conquer after they saw Ron Paul's movement. So is Beck it? Maybe, maybe not.

It's kind of like, if FOX was really gonna ride the Liberty train then why not pay Doc Paul the big bucks and give him a show. Or, give the Judge back Freedom Watch but on main FOX News, or, stack the nightly news with liberty folks. I say if "they" let him grow, but you don't hear similar stuff to what the Judge would say on his show, then we have our answer.

Glenn also sees the movement and momentum swinging perhaps in our direction and wants in on the gravy.

At least that's my take.

I agree. There are so many

I agree. There are so many short-sighted people here. Even is Beck is all the things they accuse him off, if him talking about libertarianism, and inviting others to discuss the same, and a few people are converted through that process, we have won..

Shutting that potential down, is foolish.

If you disagree with me on anything you are not a real libertarian...

Who's talking...

...about shutting it down? The things I mentioned below are what Glenn needs to do if he wants to earn my trust as someone who is really dropping the smug condescension of the past and turning over a new leaf in search of Liberty. Note that I didn't say he had to agree with Dr. Paul or myself on everything -- it's more about him earning trust by showing respect and not engaging in smear tactics.

Where's the one-on-one...

...in-depth, sincere, non-condescending interview between Glenn and Dr. Paul? -- not just some short token interview on what they agree on (federal spending, the Fed, etc.), but on the thorny issues of foreign policy, etc. When I see Glenn sincerely doing that and not following it up with some back-stabbing smear job with his smug sidekicks making snide remarks about Dr. Paul and us, then I might have hope there is something genuine about his interest in the Liberty movement, as more than something to derail.

When I see him going back to revisit the Founders and underscoring the non-interventionist foreign policy he conveniently left out in previous years of going on about George Washington and company, then I might start to believe him.

Does anyone else sense something bristling in Glenn, something in his body language or eyes, when he has guests like G. Edward Griffen? It seems like he's saying words that he needs to say for his audience to think he's on their side; but I sense this underlying discomfort he has for some of his guests. Take the freshman Libertarian in the recent video (w/ Jack Hunter, etc.), for example -- you could tell Glenn wasn't liking him so much, and was kind of more abrupt with him than with the other two.

When he had the fellow on who invented 3-D gun magazine printing, Glenn told him that he wasn't sure yet if he was friend or foe... I loved the glimmer in the guest's eyes when he returned his gaze and said 'that's a good question.' It was like he was challenging Glenn -- are you really a friend or foe of Liberty?

I hope my suspicions are all wrong; and I will be quick to cheer Glenn on if he is genuine. But forgive my doubts in the meantime. :)

Look. Use his Microphone and drop him

If he keeps bringing people like Hunter and other Libertarians on the show, its fine.

if he keeps propping up Rand, thats cool too.

but once the Good Doctor gets his radio show, we will ask him what to do about Old GB and his new "interests"

Did you here Alex explain Becks approach?

He gains your confidence then suckerpunches you.

He's only doing this so that at the perfect moment he can pull the rug out from under libertarians. That's why he's there.. that's his job as far as I'm concerned.

For fucks sake.. stop thinking that you can use these people. You have none of the money they do.. None of the influence.. None of the TV shows and media corporations.

Do as Dr.Paul and Alex are doing.. go to the people.. form your own stations. Get the word of mouth out as an individual. Anyway you slice it, it's a longshot, but at least this way, they'll have less chance to control the direction.

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There are reasons to NOT trust Ron Paul either.

Nor would I trust any Anarchist. I don't hear any of you talking about serving justice, including Ron Paul. I hear him telling me I shouldn't cause a ruckus and to be respectful to the criminals who think they're going to use our government and monetary system as an engine to spread injustice.

I hear him telling me I should respect carbon taxing mass murderers, and maybe that's because Ron Paul isn't interested in serving justice or fixing anything. As he says, he's interested in watching them destroy America because he thinks he can build on the rubble.

Glenn Beck is right to hate some Libertarians, and I don't blame him for wanting NOTHING to do with them. Most of the people who call themselves Libertarians are just Anarchists and destroyers. You know the type, the kind of person who can't call themselves a Republican and try to blame injustice on government. They have NO IDEA what the problem is. They're like gun grabbers who think they can get rid of injustice by getting rid of guns, and that's what government is, collective force, and just like a gun, it can be used to serve justice or injustice.

Don't blame Glenn Beck, and don't blame government. Blame yourself.

Blame the people who unjustly want what they don't have a right to.

Blame the people like Ron Paul who love to imagine that what we need is a giant mound of rubble and death.

Blame the people who came into this thinking they were surrounded by sheep and retards here to be used in a revolution.

Blame yourself for thinking you were going to start a revolution screaming about how stupid everybody is, because now the only people who're going to face justice are the ones who wanted to use people as their instruments of destruction.

while YOU are at it

Blame yourself.

So Glenn Beck Was Super Confused...

... and maybe told what he had to say when on FOX. Now he seems more excepting of Libertarians. In my eyes he is an ally as long as he is an ally. If he changes, how is this going to hurt our movement? If he promotes Rand, then he is for us. If he turns on him, oh well (we're used to that). I also realize people change, maybe that is it, maybe it is not. I am glad he is saying some good things now, but I really can care less.

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he is a obama like, appears

he is a obama like, appears to be something but devoids of any substance. Who are ones pulling his strings?

Someone answer me this. Why

Someone answer me this. Why are you guys so obsessed with Beck?

I know I won't get an answer, but instead you just vote me down.

If you disagree with me on anything you are not a real libertarian...

I ask why you dont understand where have you been?

Glen Beck is the primary reason that Texas is still stuck with that criminal Rick (Bilderberg) Perry.

Glen Beck did a hatchet job on Debra Medina, She was running for governor Texas on a platform similar to Ron Paul’s Liberty, She lives the same local as RP here in Texas, she wanted to abolish that vile extorted theft called property tax. The extortion that usurps a mans ownership of private property.

Glen Beck is a huge traitor. Do your research before you discredit others with terms like “OBSESSED”, No one is obsessed with Glen Beck.

He is a huge criminal still walking free committing crimes against humanity, yet some still say oh well nothing to be concerned about.

Some actually say, I don’t see why those people are so obsessed with Glen Beck.

Me I say what a terrible question, to lazy to do your own research so you talk down to others.

Just look at some vids of when RP was doing a pres run and some of the things that GB stated on FAUX and other MSM media ie. radio.

sovereign

Are you equally holding Tom

Are you equally holding Tom Woods accountable for his neoconservative views before he was converted? In fact do you every person who eventually were converted accountable for what they did and said before they got converted?

I did my research. His disagreement on foreign policy is the main issue he had with Paul. A lot of people feel the same. Beck said he has changed his mind on that.

Has he changed? maybe, maybe not. But if him talking about it converts a few of his listeners to learn more and then become libertarians, I am happy. I am sure you won't want that to happen.

Is Beck worse than any other talk or radio host who trashed Paul and/or libertarians?

Stossel even had guests on that came back later and said he changed their mind. IS that not something you want?

All your points are from OLD videos. Provide us something from the last few months while he claims to have been taught more about it.

If you disagree with me on anything you are not a real libertarian...

Tom Woods dont know of him very well

and didnt have reason to look into him. Beck has cost me personaly. Tom Woods has not, at least that I know of.

The scale of the crime is not the same in my mind. Beck was sucking up to the Kabal using the air waves to gleen favor and wealth at the cost of many others.

But its about the crime and the time. Glen is still a huge lieing crap, still shilling for favor. The second he gets you to trust him he will stab you and cry out that your at fault and hurting him so by making him stab you. Nah Beck is not welcome in my life not in any way shape or form. I dont care how many name you throw in I know the trash of Glen Beck and No is always gona be my final answer. His crimes are by far to high, he needs rehabilitation. I am talking bubba and jail house bars.

sovereign

simply put

I posted this video because I have been noticing a lot of Glenn Beck videos, of him talking about libertarians. So I wanted to remind others here of why we don't trust him in those situations. If you look at all my post, you may only find one other video with Glenn Beck in it, maybe. To my memory, this is the only Glenn Beck video I have ever posted.

You do realize that most, if

You do realize that most, if not all, of those clips of Beck are old. He fully acknowledges he was for the Patriot Act, but said he made a mistake because he was too trusting fo the Government. Now whether he is telling the truth, only time will tell.

I am just amazed at the amount of posts and thread on Beck here. With the same amount of energy you guys could convert new people.

Personally I welcome ANYONE who is willing to learn and join the liberty. If we had to examine everyone's personal beliefs before they became full-fleshed libertarians we are going to cringe.

Even if Beck is insincere would something good come out if some of his listeners became libertarians, or is that a no, no, too?

If you disagree with me on anything you are not a real libertarian...

I do realize that

It was only a reminder, that's all. It's different when people change their minds, but it's something completely different when they change their view depending on the moment, like Romney. I only showed this to remind those who think Beck is all of a sudden friendly to us, that he wasn't at one point, and to stay alert.

Beck is not a politician.

Beck is not a politician. Romney is. Beck doesn't need a small minority of libertarians. In fact, he probably risks losing his neoconservative crowd by doing so. The mistake most people make here is to overestimate the amount of real libertarians there are.

I just see it different than most of the people here.

If you disagree with me on anything you are not a real libertarian...

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Possibly because...

He seems so obsessed with the word libertarian lately. If he wants to be one he might as well just do it instead of begging for acceptance. If he begs for acceptance people are going to respond.

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Glenn Beck must be stopped.

Glenn Beck must be stopped. Nothing positive can come out of Glenn Becks' circus. He is a disinfo artist, and has mocked and ridiculed Ron Paul and Ron Paul supporters on national airwaves. Glenn Beck is looking for a market and we shant give it to him.

Well, it appears as though

Well, it appears as though Glenn Beck is trying to make a move on the Liberty Movement. Given his previous character and his deceptions, many are concerned with Beck's recent endeavors into the Libertarian ideology and so forth. Remember when Glenn Beck tried to become a sort of figure for the Tea Party? Many want to see where Beck is going, and what moves he's making, and many others want to expose him.

Are you that easily persuaded

Are you that easily persuaded to join Beck? If not, why do you care? Are you worried he will persuade others to learn about libertarianism? Even if he is insincere, as you seem to claim, would something good come out if some of his listeners became libertarians, or is that a no, no, too?

If you disagree with me on anything you are not a real libertarian...

Beck will attempt to redefine

Beck will attempt to redefine libertarianism. He won't be informing, or bringing others to libertarianism, he'll confuse because he himself is confused. I give him the benefit of the doubt that he's reassessing his philosophical foundations. He doesn't know what he believes, and he's defining himself as something he's not.

Answer me this... Can someone who supported the bailouts be a libertarian?

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Ummm because ...

His name is Glenn Beck ?

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